Horse racing tips to make a profit!

mdwexford

Second 5 times, luck has to change and he due a win just amused me no end.

You are a top drawer leveller perhaps.

NabyLadistheman

This thread is brilliant. Read the whole thing there &made me laugh. Keep up the good work

argosy2006

two of them didnt even run and i,m getting stick,,,
i had seven days in the 14.45 in cork as a back up, shame i wasnt here to post it,!!
it won!!
reason it won in heavy ground last time out,!!!! 8-1 !!!

Shan75

argosy2006 wrote: »

Go look at results from last seven days of racing,,you tell me why all the winners won, some times there is no reasons other that distance or weight,
why does a 100-1 beat a 2-1,
why did King edmund win.?
he has led in every race he ever ran,hes' always up front,and carrying less weight than usualy yesterday, , ifs that not a good enough reason then i dunno what is,
what other reasons should i be looking for, ground,
I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT HORSE RACING,

Don't worry about it Argosy.It is much easier to make fun of people who post up tips than to ever make selections with good form related reasons and some people would never give a selection as it leaves them open to accusations of lack of knowledge etc.This is especially true of the people who claim to have the most widespread knowledge of horseracing and formlines.Fact is people can make their selections based on whatever criteria they feel works best for them.For people with a deep knowledge of form some people's reasoning may seem crazy but even they know not everything in this game can be backed up with form.If it was we would not have gambling.

I'd be one who bases selections on form most of the time but so what? Keep up the thread.I'm enjoying it.People don't have to read it if they don't want to but some seem to enjoy the car crash element but don't like to admit it even to themselves.:):)

argosy2006

thanks shan

argosy2006

if my tips were backed as one point per tip i would be 31.33 points,
but its 36 tips, ie 36 points,
so minus -4.67 at sp
but my tips are up night before,,where 14-1s end up been 8 -1,,
but sp is what i said i'd use,
but i,m way up at advised prices!!:D

Nulty

careca wrote: »

This and similar threads are the reason there is little or no traffic on this forum anymore.

Some spanner says I have 1500 to bet with and here are my horses. No proof of bet and no reason as to why these horses.
I did actually laugh at the 'its not over yet' comment. How could it ever be over, sure just take another '1500' from the same place you got the first figure. Why don't you make it 15000 and we can all say "oh my, he's mad that fellow".

Mods should close this thread asap unless op starts posting proof of his bets and I honestly hope he can't (for his sake).

I disagree, for at least 8 months theres been no traffic here and for that long everyones been posting these mental betting 'systems' in the gambling forum. The reason the Horse Racing forum is the way it is is because noone else posts anything. I hate the way people want to blame other people for this kind of ****. Its pathetic.

I warned you argosy, there are some ****bricks on here.

BTW, I'm nearly crying with laughter at this whole thread.

Theme song - Chumbawamba - Tubthumping

argosy2006

Mortimers cross ,,,frozen track never ran
Club oscar , 5 to win,, lost
Song sung blue frozen track never ran


5.00 5.00 7.50 8.50 10.00 15.00 22.00 25.00 40.00 50.00 64.00 80.00 95.00 130.00 160.00 200.00 275.00 350.00 420.00 500.00
600.00,

BANK 163.50.. Starting bank 1500,,,,7.50 next bet

argosy2006

PERCEPTION 12.20 , 7.50 TO WIN

APPLEADAY 14.35.

DREAM OF FORTUNE 14,45

DUNELIGHT 20.20

5.00 5.00>> 7.50> 8.50> 10.00> 15.00,, 22.00 25.00 40.00 50.00 64.00 80.00 95.00 130.00 160.00 200.00 275.00 350.00 420.00 500.00

cson

Have you ever actually considered laying these? You'd up a fortune.

argosy2006

cson wrote: »

Have you ever actually considered laying these? You'd up a fortune.

what you talking about,
i'v had 4-1 2-1 ,8-1 ,14-1 ,and an, 8-1 all won,, only way u would be up a fortune is if you had backed them all at advised prices,.,,thread only 13 days old ,
has hugh taylor had that many winners in 13 days,,, has pricewise extra?
total unjustified the stick i get here

Morgans

You have set yourself up as a tipster, yet you admit you know nothing about racing. That is fine.

Best of luck to you, but surely you could do this on a word document on your own computer, given that you admit you know nothing about the sport and the reasons for your selections make this clear. A broken clock is right twice a day. So, there isnt really any need to keep with a bank, and definitely no reason to compare youself to Pricewise Extra and Hugh Taylor.

Its unrealistic not to expect abuse I think.

mdwexford

Nulty wrote: »

I disagree, for at least 8 months theres been no traffic here and for that long everyones been posting these mental betting 'systems' in the gambling forum. The reason the Horse Racing forum is the way it is is because noone else posts anything. I hate the way people want to blame other people for this kind of ****. Its pathetic.

I warned you argosy, there are some ****bricks on here.

BTW, I'm nearly crying with laughter at this whole thread.

Theme song - Chumbawamba - Tubthumping

No traffic so to solve that issue we just get people who have no clue about racing to start threads picking random horses for no reason.

Hang on there ill ask my Granny has she got 10 mins a day to spare to post for you.

Also there was no traffic for 8 months because people here predominantly are jump racing fans, i know my flat interest has been steadily waning over the past 4-5 years.

Shan75

mdwexford wrote: »

Also there was no traffic for 8 months because people here predominantly are jump racing fans, i know my flat interest has been steadily waning over the past 4-5 years.

I agree with this.Most people in Ireland prefer NH racing so there is always more traffic about during the winter/spring especially around the time of the bigger meetings/races.

However I don't see any harm in somebody posting up their selections even if their reasons are not steeped in study of form etc.Sure it won't benefit any of us in the overall scheme of things but it is interesting all the same.I mean if guys like Mark Winstanley(there is nothing worse than this guy selecting a horse you fancy IMO) can get away with it on The Star surely Argosy has right to do it here.I have seen many supposed tipsters in newspapers writing what I consider to be rubbish and more often than not my opinion appears to be vindicated.

argosy2006

mdwexford wrote: »

No traffic so to solve that issue we just get people who have no clue about racing to start threads picking random horses for no reason.

Hang on there ill ask my Granny has she got 10 mins a day to spare to post for you.

Also there was no traffic for 8 months because people here predominantly are jump racing fans, i know my flat interest has been steadily waning over the past 4-5 years.

RANDOM! THERE NOT RANDOM!
And reason i didnt just do this on word document is because i expected criticism, i thought i would pick ideas up from it,
but there is no constructive criticism! its all just people with nothing better to do than just post negative stuff,,AND ITS REGARDLESS OF RESULTS, everything i tip is suppose to win with yee,
i,m just suprised no one has had a go at my staking plan yet lol,
anyway its only i bit of fun, and all your negativity put me off backing my tips lately, so i missed my 14-1 my 8-1 winners! ouch:D
people need to light up,,OR TELL ME WHERE I,M GOING WRONG:pac:

mdwexford

To be honest i have no interest in weekday racing unless theres a major race on or a decent novice running so im not in a position to give any constructive criticism.

I know its tough to pick winners, if it wasnt everyone would be minted.

I just think if you gave a more detailed thought process into your selections people might contribute more positively.

argosy2006

I DO LOOK AT FORM, i look back through all the previous races of my tips,
and look at there results,and what weight there were carrying and the ground the do well on,< <<< i,m just shocked that that is funny,,
WHAT DE HELL AM I SUPPOSE TO BE LOOKING FOR,???
no one has told me that yet.
i thought thats what all tipsters look at,and based there tips on

argosy2006

mdwexford wrote: »

To be honest i have no interest in weekday racing unless theres a major race on or a decent novice running so im not in a position to give any constructive criticism.

I know its tough to pick winners, if it wasnt everyone would be minted.

I just think if you gave a more detailed thought process into your selections people might contribute more positively.

my reasons for my tips are never good enough,
so no reasons any more,
but i do study form,

cson

argosy2006 wrote: »

I DO LOOK AT FORM, i look back through all the previous races of my tips,
and look at there results,and what weight there were carrying and the ground the do well on,< <<< i,m just shocked that that is funny,,
WHAT DE HELL AM I SUPPOSE TO BE LOOKING FOR,???
no one has told me that yet.
i thought thats what all tipsters look at,and based there tips on

It wouldn't hurt to give a line or two. Something like 'course & distance winner' or 'despite 7lb rise, should still be ahead of the handicapper' etc

corny

mdwexford wrote: »

No traffic so to solve that issue we just get people who have no clue about racing to start threads picking random horses for no reason.

Hang on there ill ask my Granny has she got 10 mins a day to spare to post for you.

Also there was no traffic for 8 months because people here predominantly are jump racing fans, i know my flat interest has been steadily waning over the past 4-5 years.

If he came up with reasoned well thought out arguments for his selections there'd be a high probability you'd disagree with him regardless! Some of you on here think you're infallible when it comes to racing knowledge and anything that doesn't measure up is usually met with hostility and derision. If the man wants to flip a coin to predict a winner, let him. If it generates a bit conversation and/or banter (the one about Brewsters Millions was a classic) i don't see a problem.

And of course the OP should be saying if you don't like it then **** off somewhere else.

mdwexford

corny wrote: »

If he came up with reasoned well thought out arguments for his selections there'd be a high probability you'd disagree with him regardless! Some of you on here think you're infallible when it comes to racing knowledge and anything that doesn't measure up is usually met with hostility and derision. If the man wants to flip a coin to predict a winner, let him. If it generates a bit conversation and/or banter (the one about Brewsters Millions was a classic) i don't see a problem.

And of course the OP should be saying if you don't like it then **** off somewhere else.

More super contributions from yourself, you are the single most annoying person on here.

I might well disagree which would hopefully lead to some interesting discussions on the positives and negatives on a horse or something constructive. I would still respect some kind of thinking going in to it.

While i obviously dont think im infallible i know enough and i enjoy interesting discussion and getting different educated viewpoints on horses. I have had my runs in with many here but i still respect that they know their stuff.

If he wants to flip a coin to predict a winner the racing tips sticky is at the top of the forum for all the clueless fish to post their rubbish tips. (At least i presume thats what goes on there, i dont look in it, no offence meant if im mistaken).

And if the OP said that then i would give him credit for being as juvenile and useless around here as you so meh, whateva!!

corny

mdwexford wrote: »

While i obviously dont think im infallible i know enough and i enjoy interesting discussion and getting different educated viewpoints on horses.

Its so obvious isn't it?

argosy2006

PERCEPTION 12.20 , 7.50 TO WIN last! lost 7.50
APPLEADAY 14.35. lost 8.50
!DREAM OF FORTUNE 14,45, 3rd lost 10.00
DUNELIGHT 20.20 , beaten by a head ahh lost 15.00
5.00 5.00 7.50 8.50 10.00 15.00 >22.00 25.00 40.00 50.00 64.00 80.00 95.00 130.00 160.00 200.00 275.00 350.00 420.00 500.00 600.00



BANK 122.50.. Starting bank 1500
next bet 22.00 to win

Maypole queen 12.35
Schindlers tune 15.05
Cant back this now> Connak 15.50 forecast was 14-1. its now 19-10.,, meanus daddy was my second choice in this race
meanus daddy 15.50
Wicklewood 17.00

mdwexford

Acutally by thanking your pathetic post he just proved he was as bad as you.

Morgans

argosy2006 wrote: »

I DO LOOK AT FORM, i look back through all the previous races of my tips,
and look at there results,and what weight there were carrying and the ground the do well on,< <<< i,m just shocked that that is funny,,
WHAT DE HELL AM I SUPPOSE TO BE LOOKING FOR,???
no one has told me that yet.
i thought thats what all tipsters look at,and based there tips on

First place to start would be to discover the co-relation between weight carried and handicap mark. A discussion would ruin the tipping thread, but its fundamental knowledge to understanding racing and findng the best opportunities for gambling. Actually, I'd stop being a tipster until you understand this. The horses that you select at 100/1 are 100/1 for a reason, even if their form figures dont look the worst.

Nulty

mdwexford wrote: »

No traffic so to solve that issue we just get people who have no clue about racing to start threads picking random horses for no reason.

Hang on there ill ask my Granny has she got 10 mins a day to spare to post for you.

Also there was no traffic for 8 months because people here predominantly are jump racing fans, i know my flat interest has been steadily waning over the past 4-5 years.

First, I'd hardly say argosy started this thread because he wanted to up the traffic on the HR forum. He's not doing it to find a 'solution' to anything. If thats what people are looking for they ought to look to themselves.

With respect, whats you granny got to do with anything?

Fair enough, point taken. I haven't been here for a jumps season but I guess it can be expected there'd be more interest during the winter season.

It just gets my goat when people come out with the old finger pointing. It's awfully lame.

argosy2006

mdwexford wrote: »

Acutally by thanking your pathetic post he just proved he was as bad as you.

Have to start somewhere, i do know a bit about horses, and do look at form,there not toss of a coin picks,takes me few hours to pick ones i tip,
i look at every horse in the race and go bck through all of their past form,
then decide on one, based on value, avoid the favourite,so lower SR ,but good prices

argosy2006

tinakellylad 14.35 ahhhhhhhhhhhhh on my list of five i shortened to four!!
didnt think he could could take Kempes with ruby walsh on board!
he beat him by 4 lenghts!

Morgans

This is constructive criticism. Tough luck you didnt bet on Tinakellylad, but don't continually make excuses for bets you did do but shouldn't have, or bets you didnt do and should have done. If this had won, had that one fallen I'd be a millionaire stories are the staple of the bookies loser. If you make a mistake, learn from it and factor it in the next time you place a bet. Remember, constructive...

argosy2006

ORANA CONTI 2.30 sneachta
BIG JIM MCCULLAGH 2.45 64.00 NEXT BET
DOMINICAN MONK 3.05 sneachta
SCOTS DRAGOON 3.40 sneachta
LUISA TETRAZZINI 15.15
MULLITOVERMAURICE 18.20
FINE LACE 21.20

5.00 5.00 7.50 8.50 10.00 15.00 22.00 25.00 40.00 50.00>>>>>>> 64.00 80.00 95.00 130.00 160.00 200.00 275.00 350.00 420.00 500.00 600.00

BANK MINUS -14.50

argosy2006

LONGORIA 13.20, non runner
EXCEEDTHEWILDMAN 12.50 160.00 NEXT BET lost
NANS BEST 13.20 NAVAN lost
BRET VALE 15.35 lost

5.00 5.00 7.50 8.50 10.00 15.00 22.00 25.00 40.00 50.00 64.00 80.00 95.00 130.00>>>> 160.00 200.00 275.00 350.00 420.00 500.00 600.00


BANK MINUS -383.50

browner85

has even 1 horse won yet?

argosy2006

13.05 NEXT WEEK 350 NEXT BET
SPINNING 4.15 KEM,,,
16.45 LUJEANIE

5.00 5.00 7.50 8.50 10.00 15.00 22.00 25.00 40.00 50.00 64.00 80.00 95.00 130.00 160.00 200.00 275.00>> 350.00 420.00 500.00 600.00

BANK MINUS -1018

argosy2006

DIABLO 13.35. 400 TO WIN
SASHENKA 2.10 ,100 TO WIN

100.00 DOUBLE
vvvvvvvvvvvvv
RONDEAU 2.30
KINGS GATE CASTLE 16.35

x PyRo

Seriously, retire now. These aren't tips, they're lays.... Well at least when i see them i make them lays.

argosy2006

x PyRo wrote: »

Seriously, retire now. These aren't tips, they're lays.... Well at least when i see them i make them lays.

agreed ,total failure,
game over.
bank is over minus -3000 now from a +1500 start.. 4500 or more lost,
21 bets are up on staking plan, and i didnt have winner,

x PyRo

It's annoying losing but sometimes you just have to quit and re-think your strategy because obviously whatever horse you're picking turns into a donkey!.

Although you wouldn't be the first to lose 21 bets in a row, we all have bad runs, even the top tippers.

Just if you are backing these horses lower your stakes if they're the correct figures you've put on the horse because €4.5k is a serious loss in my eyes... Unless you're loaded!.

argosy2006

if i had one more bet it would be a double
metal guru 1.55
holyfield warrior 2.25 100ew double

Johner

Please tell me you did that each way double.

Metal Guru 2nd at 15/2

Holyfield Warrior 3rd at 12/1

x PyRo

Unlucky.

argosy2006

Johner wrote: »

Please tell me you did that each way double.

Metal Guru 2nd at 15/2

Holyfield Warrior 3rd at 12/1

yea i did it for small money 25ew, not the 100 ew in thread, only worked outs roughly at a 4-1 coz they both placed,
really needed them to win,
with a win with 100 on it would have been 11050 for the win,,and 2210 for the each way, 13,260 total,
100ew in thread was only to recover the loss in thread, which is only fantasy money, i do back em all just with lower money,

x PyRo

No harm that's better Keep going and hopefully you'll pick some good ones. Luckily enough you went e/w on them.

argosy2006

x PyRo

Class!!.

thedini

How can you have a minus bank?

argosy2006

thedini wrote: »

How can you have a minus bank?

started with bank of 1500..lost that..that makes 0
then lost another 3500...so thats -3500 from a + 1500 start,

going to start a new thread tomorrow,
see if i learned anything from this one,:D