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Van Seat Conversion Kits Legal?

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    #2
    R.O.R
    Registered Users Posts: 12,684 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    rorysllvn wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have a vw caddy van (new shape) and wanted to know if these are legal:

    http://www.vangadgets.co.uk/van-seat-conversions-car-derived-light-commercials.htm

    It would be handy being able to carry an extra passenger :D

    do you have to tell the insurance company? or change the log book?:confused:

    Any Ideas?:rolleyes:

    Not sure about legality, but you'd have to pay VRT on the Van for turning it in to a passenger vehicle.


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    gofaster_s13
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭gofaster_s13


    Its also a DOE fail


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    craichoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭craichoe


    rorysllvn wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have a vw caddy van (new shape) and wanted to know if these are legal:

    http://www.vangadgets.co.uk/van-seat-conversions-car-derived-light-commercials.htm

    It would be handy being able to carry an extra passenger :D

    do you have to tell the insurance company? or change the log book?:confused:

    Any Ideas?:rolleyes:

    Anyone in those seats would not be insured.


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    tin79
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    craichoe wrote: »
    Anyone in those seats would not be insured.

    Surely they would be covered as third parties no? Which the insurer is legally obliged to pay out on?


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    The_Conductor
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    tin79 wrote: »
    Surely they would be covered as third parties no? Which the insurer is legally obliged to pay out on?

    No. You've modified the vehicle. Your insurance is void.


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    Theta
    Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    Even if you modified the vehicle are incurance companies not required by law to cover third parties? I was told this was the case.


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    tin79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    smccarrick wrote: »
    No. You've modified the vehicle. Your insurance is void.

    i dont agree with that , but i am no lawyer.


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    irlmarc wrote: »
    Even if you modified the vehicle are incurance companies not required by law to cover third parties? I was told this was the case.

    You're correct. It's not void, and insurance company would have to pay out. However, they would be entitled to come after you for full recovery of any monies paid out on that claim, due to your breach of 'utmost good faith' vis-a-vis your proposal form.

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    The_Conductor
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    galwaytt wrote: »
    You're correct. It's not void, and insurance company would have to pay out. However, they would be entitled to come after you for full recovery of any monies paid out on that claim, due to your breach of 'utmost good faith' vis-a-vis your proposal form.

    Isn't it a fact that it gets paid from the Public Liability fund- and the insurance company is then legally obliged to register a judgement against you in satisfaction of the claim?

    Perhaps saying the policy was/is void, was not the correct way of putting it- but a loose interpretation of the state of play is- if you or your passenger are involved in an accident which involves a claim on your policy- the company will settle the claim- but are then expected to recoup all costs involved from you? Its not quite a 'voiding' of your policy- but its not a million miles from it?


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    The Real B-man
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    You would have to look into DOE & Insurance i mean there Vans that are Converted into Ambulances, Minibus, Taxis etc.


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    rorysllvn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭rorysllvn


    so would this mean you would have to pay car tax instead of commercial tax?. There are quite a few transit vans on donedeal.ie with rear seats installed are those factory fitted?


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    R.O.R
    Registered Users Posts: 12,684 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    rorysllvn wrote: »
    so would this mean you would have to pay car tax instead of commercial tax?. There are quite a few transit vans on donedeal.ie with rear seats installed are those factory fitted?

    Not always, some are converted from Panel Vans.

    To be a crew cab and commercial there are set regulations that vans need to adhere to to qualify for €50 VRT. Most common one is a GVW of > 3,450kg which is why most you'll see are Transit 350's.


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    Pdfile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    craichoe wrote: »
    Anyone in those seats would not be insured.
    would void the driver too though id say....



    they are illigal if not declared in the policy you took out.


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