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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭CoachTO


    Hazys wrote: »
    Fortunately thats not true. NFL players dont get arrested at a high rate, its quiet the opposite. Arrests in the NFL are just hightly publicised not highly frequent in comparison to the rest of the US population.

    http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/07/02/issues-surrounding-aldon-smiths-stabbing/

    Davyjose Im sure was stating why they do stupid things rather than the rate compared the general public no?

    But I do agree it is overly publicised by the media but the problem is when you are someone who is looked upon as a professional and a role model to many and a high paid figure it will bring its scrutiny when you fook up.

    The age old saying comes into effect with these guys for the most part though. You can take the guy out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of the guy and all of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    The rate is certainly higher than it seems to be in most other sports. And most of those seem to be in the offseason.

    RG3 misses another day and both he and Luck remain unsigned. What is it with these teams? Washington sold the farm to get Griffin, and Indy gave up one of the greatest QB's of all time for a kid (who has already missed a LOT of offseason practice), and here they are playing poker with contracts. Get fcuking real Irsay and Snyder. All this is doing is further harming reputations and any chance of competing this season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Hey you can't blame them none of the other top 8 have signed. It's always like this with a new CBA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭nerd69


    i thought draft contracts where set now due to the cba if so why is there holdouts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    davyjose wrote: »
    The rate is certainly higher than it seems to be in most other sports. And most of those seem to be in the offseason.

    RG3 misses another day and both he and Luck remain unsigned. What is it with these teams? Washington sold the farm to get Griffin, and Indy gave up one of the greatest QB's of all time for a kid (who has already missed a LOT of offseason practice), and here they are playing poker with contracts. Get fcuking real Irsay and Snyder. All this is doing is further harming reputations and any chance of competing this season.

    RG3 clearly places great stock in what davy thinks of him - signed his rookie contract this morning :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Well it's not really a holdout because there hasn't really been a standard set. IIRC there is some clause teams don't know whether to put in to the contracts of the top 8, Luke Kuechly's contract hasn't got that clause, and I just think everyone's waiting for everyone else to sign to know what to do. Tbh Cleveland should be signing Richardson, they are loaded with cash and cap space, but Richardson doesn't want to sign until he knows what Luck and RG3 are getting.

    EDIT: Now that RG3 has signed I think that the rookie signings will greatly accelerate.

    EDIT: The problem is the offset language to protect teams financially if they release the player.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Hey you can't blame them none of the other top 8 have signed. It's always like this with a new CBA.

    Of course you can blame them but more their agents. The whole idea of the offset is strange for me. If I left my job my employer would not be happy to pay me a years salary especially since I won't be working for them, all while me new employers are also paying me a year salary.

    What are the stats on Top 10 picks leaving their drafted teams after the 4th year? This I would like to see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    Of course you can blame them but more their agents. The whole idea of the offset is strange for me. If I left my job my employer would not be happy to pay me a years salary especially since I won't be working for them, all while me new employers are also paying me a year salary.

    What are the stats on Top 10 picks leaving their drafted teams after the 4th year? This I would like to see.

    RGIII signed up, they should all fall into place over the next couple of days!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    some interesting tweets:

    @adbrandt: No offset for @RGIII Thus if cut before deal ends and signs w/another team, gets Redskins $$ and new team $$. Double dip.

    @David_Tossell: No 2 draft pick quarterback Robert Griffin III has agreed his first NFL contract with Washington Redskins: $21.1M over 4 years
    @David_Tossell: Two years ago No 1 Sam Bradford got $78M over 6 years from Rams, with $50M guaranteed. RGIII contract shows impact of rookie salary cap.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Looks like Redskins caved. This reminds me of the Heath Shuler debacle, he was the first person to sign an option buyback.

    3 top 10 players from 2008 are no longer with their original team. It was also 3 from 2007.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    According to @RossTuckerNFL, if #Seahawks Lynch suspended, would default contract & void guaranteed money per @Seahawk_Talk #fantasyfootball


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    matthew8 wrote: »
    3 top 10 players from 2008 are no longer with their original team. It was also 3 from 2007.

    Cheers, interesting.

    Anywhere to get these without doing a whole manual lookup using wiki?

    The next question I would ask after I've looked at all top 10 from the last 5 years is what were the cicumstances/terms of the players that arent still there departure; released, traded, initiated a trade themselves etc etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Looks like Redskins caved. This reminds me of the Heath Shuler debacle, he was the first person to sign an option buyback.

    3 top 10 players from 2008 are no longer with their original team. It was also 3 from 2007.

    But they had to cave, that was my point. It's not as if they could bluff RG3 into signing a contract in their favour. Who are they kidding? They lay on their backs with their legs open to get him in the draft. Same with the Colts. Who's holding all the cards? If Luck misses even 1 more second of practice after all they've been through this year, Irsay will look like a clown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    49ers are now Super Bowl favourites in Vegas:

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8172893/checking-vegas-super-bowl-contenders-ncaa
    Something very curious is happening in Las Vegas.

    With the NFL's player movement period over and the relative composition of each team settled for the upcoming season, the assorted opinions of the betting public have begun to shape an extremely interesting futures market. Some of the movements behind traditionally popular teams like the Bears and Giants aren't much of a surprise, but the action on last year's unlikely contenders has headed in some unexpected directions. That action has led to the Patriots being toppled from their post as the favorites to win next year's Super Bowl, with that honor now belonging to …

    The San Francisco 49ers??? That's correct: The Niners have gone from opening at 10/1, where they were tied as the fifth favorites alongside the Saints, to 4/1 favorites at the MGM family of sportsbooks to win Super Bowl XLVII. You know, the Niners with Alex Smith at quarterback who have just one winning season in the past nine years. Bettors, obviously, are looking past that to see a great coach, dominant defense and special teams, and a division that might contain as many as three cream puffs. Fair enough. On the other hand, Alex Smith is still their quarterback, you know? It just seems like that's placing a lot of faith in the abilities of Randy Moss and Mario Manningham to push the offense into competency. We'll get more into the Niners thing when our sprawling season preview begins next week.

    It's also worth noting that the Niners aren't the favorites at every single book in Vegas. If you go to the Cantor-run books at the Palms or Tropicana, for example, San Francisco is at a more reasonable 10/1. If you're planning on heading to Vegas and want to place a bet on the 49ers to win the Super Bowl, you're getting significantly more value by betting at the Cantor books than you are at the MGM ones. And there are teams for whom the opposite is true, too.

    Of course, there have been plenty of other notable movements on other teams, too. We can tell that you just want to get to the table and see what's happened to your team, so go do that and then we'll discuss some of the notable shifts on the other side.

    Keep in mind that it takes more volume in terms of betting to move the smaller lines than the larger ones. The key word for any sportsbook is "exposure," and a $100 bet on the Buccaneers at 200/1 (to win a possible $20,000) creates a lot more exposure than that same bet on the Packers at 7/1 (to win a "mere" $700).

    One line move isn't remotely surprising; the Broncos going from 75/1 to 7/1 naturally came as a result of the Peyton Manning signing. The other big leap forward, though, might be more of a surprise; the Chicago Bears have gone from 25/1 all the way down to 8/1, where they sit behind just three other teams. It's not a surprise that the Bears would see action, since Vegas knows that the Bears are a perennially popular team and prices that into their line, but a move that pushes their odds ahead of teams like the Steelers and Eagles is pretty stunning. Of course, if the Bears team that dominated the Eagles, Lions, and Chargers in consecutive wins from last year is able to stay on the field for a full season, those 8/1 odds might look pretty good by January.

    There's another tier of teams seeing a decent amount of action, highlighted by the Cowboys, Jets, and Seahawks. The Cowboys and Jets also obviously have huge fan bases, but it's still a surprise to see two teams that have taken so much flak over the past six months end up with steam behind them in July. The Seahawks' move is fascinating because it shows how polarizing the Niners are as a team. It's hard to imagine that a team with that much action behind it would also be in a division where a second team is simultaneously taking bets as a possible Super Bowl winner, but it looks like the bettors are either all in or all out on San Francisco.

    The lonelier fate, of course, is to be a team with Super Bowl odds that nobody's interested in. Nobody's been subject to the same embarrassing situation as the Charlotte Bobcats, who didn't take a single "will win the championship" bet this year at the LVH, but there are a few teams who are getting the cold shoulder from the public this offseason. Just as the Broncos saw their stock leap after acquiring Peyton Manning, the Colts fell fast after Manning left town. At 150/1, they're now considered to be the least likely team in football to win a Super Bowl. It's not surprising that the worst team in football from the previous season would end up with the highest odds to win the Super Bowl before the subsequent season, but the Colts have too easy of a division and have made too much of an upgrade at quarterback to fit at 150/1.

    Another team from that division has also gone ignored this offseason, as the Titans and their impending quarterback battle have fallen to 80/1 from 30/1. Their schedule only differs by two games from Indianapolis's, but sequencing matters. Have you taken a look at the Tennessee schedule yet? They start at home against the Patriots, head to San Diego, play the Lions at home, and then travel to Houston. What are the odds that they haven't changed their starting quarterback by the end of that stretch? The Chargers and Steelers are the only other teams to see their odds more than double since the lines opened up for bets.

    Regular-Season Moves

    While we covered some of the early line movements on NFL team over-unders back in May, there have been a number of notable shifts amid the totals that MGM originally put up two months ago. Interestingly enough, those don't always jibe with the movements taking place with regard to Super Bowl odds.

    Three teams have seen their total improve by a half-win, suggesting that the MGM books are taking plenty of action on their over bets. As you might suspect, one of those teams is the 49ers, who have gone from over 9.5 at a line of -110 to, now, over 10 wins. (San Francisco has also improved to 2/1 to win the NFC.) The Panthers, whom we highlighted back in May, have gone from over 7.0 wins at even money to over 7.5 wins at -115. The biggest move, though, belongs to the Bills; they've shifted all the way from over 7.0 wins at even money to over 7.5 wins at a whopping -160. They could hit a total of eight wins very shortly, and will likely do so before the season begins.

    Another three have seen their total decline by a half-win, which would indicate heavy under action. Despite the improvement in their Super Bowl odds, the Cowboys have come down from a bet of under 9 wins at -110 to under 8.5 wins at +115. The Falcons have gone from under 10 wins at -120 to under 9.5 wins at -130, and the Bengals are down from under 8.5 wins at -120 to eight wins at the same figure. This doesn't guarantee anything, of course; remember that the Bengals' win total dropped by a full two wins down to 5.5 before last season, and they went over their win total on every ticket.

    Interestingly it's the first time since 2004 that the pre-season Super Bowl favourite with Vegas bookmakers has been someone other than a team lead by Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. From NFL UK's Forum:

    11' - Tom Brady
    10' - Peyton Manning
    '09 - Peyton Manning and Tom Brady (tied odds)
    '08 - Tom Brady
    '07 - Tom Brady
    '06 - Peyton Manning (last preseason favorite to win SB)
    '05 - Peyton Manning and Tom Brady (tied odds)
    '04 - McNabb


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    I'd happily lay them at 4/1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    I'd happily lay them at 4/1.

    I'd lay them at 8's. Only in America....shaking head


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren




  • Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Good read here about what it's like for an NFL player at training camp, from Ryan Riddle (ex Raiders, Jets plus Ravens and Falcons offseason squads):

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1264662-memoirs-of-an-nfl-training-camp
    As the final days of freedom wind down, NFL players from around the country take a collective, agonizing sigh as they embark on by far the most challenging period of the year.

    It's a time when every man must kiss his family goodbye, remove himself from life’s comforts and prepare his mind for a month’s worth of pain, heat, exhaustion, torture and, generally speaking, sheer misery.

    This is an inside story of training camp in the NFL.

    Sometime around the first week in July, offseason workouts, minicamps and organized team activities all come to a conclusion. This is a brief moment of elation with freedom abound, no schedules, money in your pocket and a well-deserved sense of accomplishment, having conquered a rather arduous offseason.

    But there looms a dark cloud just overhead, as July signifies the imminent arrival of training camp. For NFL fans, this is a great time of year, as it suggests the glorious beginning of a new football season, full of promise and entertainment.

    Before we were sent on our way for the better part of the month, we were given tips and instructions on how to behave, what to watch out for and how to spend our time, as well as a schedule telling us when, where and how to report to camp.

    For the Oakland Raiders, we were given the choice to park our cars safely in the facility parking lot and jump on a charter bus to take us far away from the easy weather and cool ocean breeze. To this day, regardless of its bountiful amenities and relaxing wineries, I struggle to think of Napa Valley as anything but a prison.

    We arrived at a relatively decent hotel while passing diehard fans camped outside the hotel holding signs and wearing jerseys of their favorite players.

    As we stepped off the bus, we were hit instantly by the summer heat, almost as a warning of what was to come. Then we managed our way through a crowd of cranky athletes holding luggage—some with cute personal pillows, others with full-on sound systems.

    Then we grabbed our room keys, which was when each of us found out what room we'd be staying in and who our roommates would be for the next three weeks.

    The nature of these arrangements are anything but democratic. Rookies are almost always paired with other rookies; meanwhile, the big-name veterans are given their own rooms equipped with a king-sized bed and located nearest to the dining area and meeting rooms.

    My rookie year roommate was fellow draft class member and Pac-10 adversary, quarterback Andrew Walter, who spent most of his down time talking on the phone to his fiancée. Because we were strangers in such a small room, you can imagine that these and other personal conversations made for awkward times.

    Days in an NFL training camp are long and painful. They typically begin at 6am daily. The first priorities of the day are to eat breakfast, treat your wounds, lift weights and then attend pre-practice meetings, all before the afternoon.

    Typically, there are two practices a day, averaging about two hours each. The first practice involves more installation of the playbook and getting the blood flowing in the legs (which can get heavy as the days accumulate). The early-evening practice is designed to be physically grueling and heavy in contact, technique, play execution and full-speed drills.

    I wish I could articulate the mental struggle involved in putting your pads and gear on before a practice. Walking into that cold, ugly, wooden locker room wreaking of old feet, Bengay and mold is tough.

    Your body has likely been bashed and trampled so much that you can no longer distinguish bruised flesh from normal. With muscles so stiff and fatigued, the brief walk from the hotel to the locker is a challenge. Your body is screaming for rest; your mind is constantly at the breaking point. My feet would develop massive blisters on the big toes.

    Pain becomes relative in the NFL. Amidst all of this, as a rookie trying to make the team on a daily basis, you have no choice but to dig deep, suck it up and slide those battered legs into a pair of freshly-washed, tight, silver practice pants. These were the moments when I thought: Is all of this worth it?

    Once on the field and in motion, the mind quickly assimilates, zoning out the horror of your reality, described best as a constant state of absolute exhaustion.

    But it’s on the field where your spot on the roster is either won or lost. This is your battlefield, and the spoils of this war are employment in the National Football League. In this sport, there is no space for the weak. Every day, every play, must be executed with the intent to impress.

    Being drafted in the later rounds afforded me with little to no latitude in taking a single day off. Every day was a Super Bowl.

    Some of the most violent drills in training camp would come during our full-contact, goal-line stand. This was 11-on-11 with the ball at the 1-yard line. We would run play after play of full-speed, head-on-collision football.

    Waiting for my opportunity to get in on this drill was an anxious time. The pressure to impress coupled with the obvious concerns about the physical nature of the drill could be a bit nerve-racking. But when your name is called and you head into that huddle, the mind shifts into a heightened state of focus on the job at hand.

    I was playing middle linebacker, so I was supposed to read the hand signals from the sideline, then relay the play to the defense. Leading a group of professional football players as a rookie was an interesting feeling to say the least. In college I never had to say a word; I would just line up and play. Yet there I was, giving plays, making adjustments, understanding coverages and, most importantly, looking at the field from an entirely different vantage point.

    As a middle backer in a goal-line scheme, the objective was clear: key the fullback’s first step and attack downhill at full speed, blowing him up, as well as anything else that happens to get in the way of the ball-carrier. Although simple in its description, the actual execution of this task was a whole other story.

    Across the line into the backfield, the biggest fullback on our roster and one of the biggest in the entire league (about 276 pounds) was ready to meet me in a full-speed, head-on collision.

    With a deep breath, some rising intensity and all the passion I could muster, I set my sights on the target. These are the moments you make a case for a spot on the 53-man roster. So I made the decision to sacrifice my health and well-being.

    With the snap of the ball, I read and reacted to the fullback’s first step. I exploded toward the line of scrimmage, headed directly into the gap between the offensive tackle and the tight end.

    Meanwhile, the ball-carrier was coming directly at me as the fullback led the way. A massive collision ensued right at the line of scrimmage between me and the fullback; the thunderous noise from our two helmets crashing elicited cheers and excitement from the crowd, as well as fellow teammates.

    As our helmets and bodies smashed together, I experienced a sudden flash; the hit itself was painless as all mental systems shut down for a brief second. When my awareness returned, I was laying on the ground trying to get my wits about me. Lying next to me was the fullback and running back; the latter had fallen short of the end zone, so it appeared that my job was at least somewhat accomplished.

    The fullback and I caught eyes. The look we gave each other was clear confirmation that we had just engaged in a collision of rare intensity, and our awareness level was undoubtedly compromised. Both of us were fighting to make this team and giving equal effort to do so.

    This drill was repeated several times, and the intensity remained the same throughout. I was beginning to make a good impression on the coaches—unfortunately at the cost of some valuable brain cells, for sure.

    The fanfare that goes on every day around training camp is an interesting component to the job. It definitely allows for entertainment on the players' end by giving them something other than men to look at in between action. It also motivated guys to put on a good show.

    The passion and dedication of a diehard, lifelong fan of a particular NFL team or player can definitely become a dangerous obsession. I remember watching fans swarm around guys like Randy Moss, Warren Sapp, Jerry Porter and Charles Woodson following practices.

    There was a pathway leading from the field to the hotel where fans would line up to yell and scream for the player of their choice to sign various memorabilia. This must have been tough for the big-name guys who were hungry, tired and under a very tight schedule. But they always seemed to handle those moments with such consideration.

    Luckily, us no-names slid right through the crowd unmolested. Even if someone wanted our autograph, they often wouldn’t know our names, so they would be unable to get our attention.

    I always gave time to a fan who actually knew who I was. Those were the fans that were really special. There is nothing negative about signing autographs, but when you are beyond exhausted and only have a few moments of free time, autographs can become a bit tedious.

    Life in training camp can be particularly hard for several reasons. According to tradition, rookies are expected to carry out certain daily tasks, such as carrying the helmet and shoulder pads of a veteran player or giving up their spot in line waiting to get tapped or stretched by the training staff. None of this made camp any easier.

    Another NFL training tradition is the rookie hazing. In the week before our first preseason game, the veterans would round up the rookies and present each with an ultimatum: Either let your positional vets give you a haircut of their choice, or get tied to a goal post while they dump ice water on you, then cover your entire body with shaving cream.

    I opted for the haircut, and the result looked as if my hair was falling out in patches. I looked diseased, but I didn’t mind really; it was all in good fun. After all, I didn’t have a whole lot of reason to look good while trapped in a hotel for weeks.

    One of the most underrated challenges every player faces in camp is the lack of entertainment, stimulation and fun. After a few weeks with nothing but hard work, meetings and redundancy, guys begin to get a little testy.

    In order to satiate this need for fun, teams typically force the rookies to create a talent show for the entire team. This is always an exciting and much-anticipated nightly event for veterans and coaches, who can finally let out their built-up tension with some therapeutic laughter and team bonding.

    From a rookie perspective, this was a dreaded event, as it forced us to dedicate precious down time to the cause. We had the freedom to work together or on our own in any fashion, but every rookie must perform by the time training camp is over. Some guys would do magic tricks or tell jokes, others would sing and dance.

    The most common outcomes from these performances are booing, object throwing and public ridicule. This is a fairly effective motivator for rookies to want to give their best effort towards the “Rookie Show.”

    For our show, fellow defensive rookies Anttaj Hawthorne, Kirk Morrison, I and a few others all decided to work together. We planned to create a skit where we would dress up and imitate the defensive coaches by simulating a typical defensive meeting and the tendencies of each coach.

    We had Kirk Morrison dressed up as defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, wearing his trademarked visor with paper flowing down it to simulate Ryan's long silver hair. Morrison also stuffed a pillow under his shirt for added effect.

    Hawthorne was dressed as our defensive line coach, who had a terrible limp resulting from his days as a player. As for my role, I was playing the former NFL great and our pass-rush coach, Keith Millard.

    Millard was a walking caricature of your typical tobacco-chewing, meat-head jock who slurred his speech from having a mouth full of tobacco. He also had an interesting accent that was hard to place but still very distinct.

    I spent that week leading up to the rookie show paying close attention to Millard's character nuances. I wanted to make sure I had his likeness down to a T.

    As I mentioned, it was tough for me to engage in lighthearted interaction during training camp, so for the most part, my personality was very much subdued. I was more or less on the quiet side and never did anything socially that would draw added attention to myself.

    So, it should come to no surprise that most guys on the team were expecting very little from my performance.

    When we got up in front of the crowd to perform our loosely rehearsed skit, we quickly received some nice laughs: Morrison did a solid job hitting on some very noticeable Coach Ryan phrases. His biggest laughs, however, came from the costume itself and the irony in the obvious contrast between the real Rob Ryan and his impersonator.

    Morrison got the ball rolling, and things were going smoothly. Then came my cue to give the typical Keith Millard rant that the team had become familiar with over the weeks prior. After a few seconds of my imitation, the entire room erupted into unbelievable laughter.

    Charles Woodson fell off of his seat and was rolling on the floor; guys had tears in their eyes. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, so I just kept it going, feeding the crowd with more Millard nuances and outlandish gestures.

    Every single coach and player in the room was stricken with mad, uncontrollable laughter. I remember glancing over at Millard himself to make sure he was not fuming with anger; luckily, he may have been hardest hit with the giggles.

    By the time the skit was over, we all received an unheard-of standing ovation. It just so happened to be the last performance of the night, and when we sat down, the players continued to shower me with praise, saying that was the best rookie show performance ever.

    My Millard impression ended up becoming the only thing anyone could talk to me about for the rest of training camp. I was begged and harassed on a daily basis to get back up on stage to do an encore performance. I constantly declined this request, as it seemed unfair for me to give multiple performances as my reward for doing a great job.

    Funny enough, yet also sadly, the most memorable legacy I left as an Oakland Raider was my ability to give the greatest coach impersonation that anyone had ever witnessed. I was never able to escape the abundant requests and powerful reactions created by that performance.

    I look back on it now with a smile and sense of pride. After all, it isn’t everyday you can have a room full of guys—many of whom you grew up admiring—on the floor, laughing with tears in their eyes.

    I just recently connected with Warren Sapp via Twitter, and he was having trouble placing a memory to my name, though it was vaguely familiar. I reminded him of my Millard performance and witnessed instant recall and excitement from him to hear from me.

    This was never how I wanted to make my mark as a Raider, but I suppose it’s always better than not making a mark at all.

    As for training camp in general, it may have been difficult, and I may have dreaded the thought of it, but I will still forever cherish those days out in the sun, smelling the freshly-cut grass and looking up at the sky through my face mask.

    Even then, I knew the view through those bars would one day be a distant memory, gone forever.

    Ryan has penned some excellent articles for Bleacher Report, he's well worth following and reading:

    http://bleacherreport.com/users/887776-ryan-riddle


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl




    Canadian football is madness :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    ^ ^ ^
    @ 27 seconds in - did I just see Aaron Rodgers doing kicking duties? I fecking thought he was loaded enough already, without needing to take on a summer job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,374 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    johnmcdnl wrote: »


    Canadian football is madness :pac:

    I don't suppose anyone could explain what the hell just happened there?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,259 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    I've been watching the CFL for the first time this season and I am really enjoying it!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,141 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    gotta kick ooot. they will kick it ooot, but they dont get it ooot.

    havent a notion whats going on there, but love the Canadien accent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭davetherave


    I don't suppose anyone could explain what the hell just happened there?

    Tie game with 9 seconds to go.
    Montreal with a field goal attempt.

    [Crazy rule time]
    *If the kick is good, the kicking team get 3 points.
    *If the kick is not good, but has the distance for a touchback (another 20 yards from the goal line) then they get a rouge, which gives the kicking team 1 point.
    [/crazy rule time]

    Since they only need 1 point to win it, or possibly the accuracy was off, the kicker goes to the single but it doesn't have the distance. ~55-56 yards

    [crazy rule time]
    In Canadian Football you can advance the ball by punting it.
    [/crazy rule time]
    The Toronto defender catches the ball in his endzone (ohhh Matron!!) and denies the kicker the chance of the single. However the ball is still live, and if he is tackled with possesion of the ball in the endzone it is a single. He doesn't appear to have the space to run it out so he advances the ball by kicking it....straight back to the Kicker. Ball is still live, clock is still running, kicker isn't able to run it in for a touchdown so tries for a single by kicking it out of the end of the endzone.

    Ball is still live, Toronto defender has to get the ball out of the endzone least he be tackled and his team lose the game. He kicks it on the ground back towards the goalline but it doesn't go far enough and the kicking team dive on it.
    Ball is still live and the zebras rule a touchdown. \o/

    Fooouttball eeehhh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    CFL reminds me of rugby league. Ridiculous rules for the sake of being different. It looks comical.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    Kenny Britt arrested on a DUI last night.

    Here's a (near) team of 2012 offseason arrests i put together for NFL-Ireland.com

    QB: None
    RB: Marshawn Lynch - DUI
    RB: Adrian Peterson - Resisting arrest
    FB: Jerome Felton - Suspicion of drunken-driving
    WR: Dez Bryant - Assault
    WR: Justin Blackmon - DUI
    T: Jarriel King - Suspicion of having forcible sex with intoxicated woman
    T: Johnny Culbreath - Marijuana possession
    G: David Diehl - Suspicion of DUI
    G: None
    C: Samson Satele - Disorderly conduct

    DE: Ray McDonald - Warrant for 2010 DUI
    DE: Elvis Dumervil - Aggravated assault with a firearm
    DT: Nick Fairley - DUI, Marijuana possession
    DT: Nate Collins - Marijuana possession
    LB: Koa Misi - Warrant related to battery charge
    LB: Leroy HIll - Marijuana possession
    LB: J.T. Thomas - Marijuana possession
    CB: Aaron Berry - Suspicion of DUI
    CB: None
    S: Brandon Meriweather - Suspicion of DUI
    S: None


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Lionbacker


    Kenny Britt arrested on a DUI last night.

    Here's a (near) team of 2012 offseason arrests i put together for NFL-Ireland.com

    QB: None
    RB: Marshawn Lynch - DUI
    RB: Adrian Peterson - Resisting arrest
    FB: Jerome Felton - Suspicion of drunken-driving
    WR: Dez Bryant - Assault
    WR: Justin Blackmon - DUI
    T: Jarriel King - Suspicion of having forcible sex with intoxicated woman
    T: Johnny Culbreath - Marijuana possession
    G: David Diehl - Suspicion of DUI
    G: None
    C: Samson Satele - Disorderly conduct

    DE: Ray McDonald - Warrant for 2010 DUI
    DE: Elvis Dumervil - Aggravated assault with a firearm
    DT: Nick Fairley - DUI, Marijuana possession
    DT: Nate Collins - Marijuana possession
    LB: Koa Misi - Warrant related to battery charge
    LB: Leroy HIll - Marijuana possession
    LB: J.T. Thomas - Marijuana possession
    CB: Aaron Berry - Suspicion of DUI
    CB: None
    S: Brandon Meriweather - Suspicion of DUI
    S: None
    You could add Eric Wright to your list as the second CB.
    Was arrested on suspecion of DUI but no charges were eventually filed against him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    Don't forget the cheerleader ;)

    And if you want a better team, I'd include Rey Maualuga and Aldon Smith :)


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