The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread

JaMarcus Hustle

I'll always remember a similar play against the Redskins on 3rd down a couple of years ago. I actually prefer this one as he breaks more tackles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zLi6CJ3QTg

Knex*

For such a big guy, that's incredible. That's his Rookie year too.

nerd69

Knex. wrote: »

For such a big guy, that's incredible. That's his Rookie year too.

reminds me of a young donovan mcnabb its just so rare to see a big qb with that kind of agility that still looks to pass first

davyjose

Uhhhh.....

ChicagoJoe

NFL umpire Roy Ellison has been accused of bad language towards Redskins offensive tackle Trent Williams. Appearently Ellison has a bit of form for using colorful language. You have to be careful what language you use to the boys from the bible belt !!!!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000284236/article/pereira-roy-ellison-previously-accused-of-verbal-abuse

Hazys

Two NC State football players sat with a student who was eating alone during lunch

spiralism

Saw this on walterfootball some time back but forgot to post...figured it's a little topical after last night :pac:

Separated at birth: Commander Adama from Battlestar Galactica and Ron Rivera

JaMarcus Hustle

spiralism wrote: »

Saw this on walterfootball some time back but forgot to post...figured it's a little topical after last night :pac:

I don't see it, sorry!

Though this did come up on my twitter feed last night from Lifestyle Sports. Anyone else think he's a dead ringer for Jay Cutler?

Yeah, that's a lookalike, that kinda jowly look.

Cutler has this fat farm boy look about him, he'll balloon once the career ends!

Hazys

Hazys wrote: »

Two NC State football players sat with a student who was eating alone during lunch

Maybe they are friends?

As in, my initial reaction was "aww, nice". And then I thought, is that not a bit patronising, whose to say the guy in the wheelchair isn't good friends with fellows who are athletes and they are not doing it out of any pity. And then I started confusing myself.

Hazys

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe they are friends?

As in, my initial reaction was "aww, nice". And then I thought, is that not a bit patronising, whose to say the guy in the wheelchair isn't good friends with fellows who are athletes and they are not doing it out of any pity. And then I started confusing myself.

To be honest, i thought the same at first. Maybe the guy in the wheelchair has loads of friends and it was the one day he sat on his own. It would be a little condescending for the football guys to sit with him thinking just because he's on his own he couldn't possibly have friends. (even if that was true, their hearts were still in the right place)

I'm choosing to take it at face value because that's more than likely what happened and it brightened my day.

Hazys

Hazys wrote: »

It would be a little condescending for the football guys to sit with him thinking just because he's on his own he couldn't possibly have friends. (even if that was true, their hearts were still in the right place)

I'm choosing to take it at face value because that's more than likely what happened and it brightened my day.

True. Was more kind of thinking it was condescending of me to assume it was awww cute, not them to do it. I'm sure that whatever reason they had, he's a friend, they saw a guy on his own, they wanted to speak to him, their motives were good.

Lionbacker

This can certainly be filed under weird and wacky.

An article about the utterly bizarre coincidences between current Lions QB Matthew Stafford & the last Lions QB to win a NFL Championship back in 1957, Bobby Layne, who's passing yards franchise record was broken last Sunday by Stafford.
Also goes into detail about the curse of Bobby Layne for anyone who's unaware of it.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9982652/matthew-stafford-detroit-lions-squash-team-all-passing-record-mythical-curse-2013

Itssoeasy

Tonight 126 hall of fame eligible players, coaches, contributors will be cut to 25 semi finalists and then to 15 in January , and then a maximum of seven in February in New York to become the 2014 class.

The 126 on the list are

First-year eligible

Trent Green, quarterback
Shaun Alexander, running back
Warrick Dunn, running back
Marvin Harrison, wide receiver
Willie Anderson, offensive tackle
Walter Jones, offensive tackle
Derrick Brooks, linebacker
Tedy Bruschi, linebacker
Willie McGinest, linebacker/defensive end
Zach Thomas, linebacker
Rodney Harrison, safety
Sam Madison, cornerback
Patrick Surtain, cornerback
Tony Dungy, coach
Jon Gruden, coach
Mike Holmgren, coach


Additional nominees

Quarterbacks

Drew Bledsoe
Randall Cunningham
Doug Flutie
Steve McNair
Phil Simms

Running backs

Ottis Anderson
Tiki Barber
*Jerome Bettis
Larry Centers
Roger Craig
Stephen Davis
Terrell Davis
Eddie George
Priest Holmes
Dave Meggett
Eric Metcalf
Herschel Walker
Ricky Watters

Wide receivers

*Tim Brown
Mark Clayton
Gary Clark
Henry Ellard
Keyshawn Johnson
Keenan McCardell
*Andre Reed
Sterling Sharpe
Jimmy Smith
Rod Smith

Tight end

Mark Bavaro

Offensive linemen

Tony Boselli, tackle
Lomas Brown, tackle
Jim Covert, tackle
Jay Hilgenberg, center
Chris Hinton, guard/tackle
Kent Hull, center
Joe Jacoby, tackle
Mike Kenn, tackle
Jim Lachey, tackle
Tom Nalen, center
Nate Newton, guard
Don Mosebar, center
*Will Shields, guard
Steve Wisniewski, guard

Defensive linemen

Jerome Brown, tackle
*Charles Haley, end/linebacker
Ed "Too Tall" Jones, end
Dexter Manley, end
Charles Mann, end
Steve McMichael, tackle/nose tackle
Fred Smerlas, nose tackle
*Michael Strahan, end
Ted Washington, tackle/nose tackle
Bryant Young, end

Linebackers

Cornelius Bennett
*Kevin Greene
Ken Harvey
Clay Matthews
Karl Mecklenburg
Sam Mills
Darryl Talley

Defensive backs

Eric Allen, cornerback
Steve Atwater, safety
Joey Browner, safety
LeRoy Butler, safety
Albert Lewis, cornerback
John Lynch, safety
Troy Vincent, safety
Everson Walls, cornerback
*Aeneas Williams, cornerback/safety
Darren Woodson, safety

Kickers, punter, special teams

Morten Andersen, kicker
Gary Anderson, kicker
Sean Landeta, punter
Nick Lowery, kicker
Steve Tasker, special terams
Brian Mitchell, kick returner/punt returner

Coaches

Bill Arnsparger
Don Coryell
Bill Cowher
Tom Flores
Jimmy Johnson
Chuck Knox
Buddy Parker
Richie Petitbon
Dan Reeves
Lou Saban
Marty Schottenheimer
Clark Shaughnessy
Dick Vermeil

Contributors

K. S. (Bud) Adams Jr.
Bobby Beathard
Gil Brandt
Leo Carlin
Red Cashion
Otho Davis
*Eddie DeBartolo Jr.
Ron Gibbs
Jack Kent Cooke
Jerry Jones
Eddie Kotal
Robert Kraft
Elmer Layden
Art McNally
*Art Modell
Bill Polian
Steve Sabol
Paul Tagliabue
Jim Tunney
Ron Wolf
George Young

*On 2013 finalists list

HigginsJ

Itssoeasy wrote: »

*Michael Strahan, end

Cut the nonsense & get him in

Phoenix Park

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

I don't see it, sorry!

Though this did come up on my twitter feed last night from Lifestyle Sports. Anyone else think he's a dead ringer for Jay Cutler?

Nah. Think he's a dead ringer for Colin Kaepernick myself. Likes to wear one team's top and the wrong team's cap..

DDC1990

Derrick Brooks should make the 25 to begin with.

Hazys

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Tedy Bruschi, linebacker
Willie McGinest, linebacker/defensive end
Rodney Harrison, safety

I doubt any of the 3 Pats players stand a chance of getting in unfortunately.

Itssoeasy

I just checked its on at 10pm est. I'll be finding out in the morning then.

Billy86

Hazys wrote: »

I doubt any of the 3 Pats players stand a chance of getting in unfortunately.

Harrison has the best bet of them in my opinion.

Other NFL lookalikes...







And of course...

rockonollie

Billy86 wrote: »

Other NFL lookalikes...

Don't forget Sean Payton/Bruce Willis

rockonollie

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Marvin Harrison, wide receiver
Tony Dungy, coach


*On 2013 finalists list

I have to think that the Colts contingent has a chance.......def Harrison

Their resume:

Harrison
1102 receptions for 14580 yards and 128 TDs
8 consecutive seasons with 1000+ receiving yards and 10+ TDs (only player in NFL history)
59 100+ yard games (3rd most in NFL history when he retired)
Had at least 1 reception in first 190 games of his career (NFL record)
Set NFL single season record with 143 receptions in 2002.

Dungy
148-79 record (.652)
Only coach to have a 7+ game winning streak in 5 consecutive seasons.
Only Colts coach with 10+ wins and playoff spot in each of his first 7 years as coach.
Reached playoffs 11 times in 13 season with the Colts, reached 3 AFC championship games and 1 superbowl, which they won.

Hazys

Harrison is an OJ Simpson waiting to happen:

http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201002/marvin-harrison

Even though he has never been convicted of anything and on the field he has a Hall of Fame resume, the voters probably won't talk about it but his shadyness will have an impact on his chances of getting in.

The OJ Simpson bust is a blemish in the Hall of Fame and its been debated whether if it should remain, they don't want two controversial busts in there.

Hazys

There isn't that many coaches in the HoF, only 22.

Dungy had a very good career but its very very short. Comparing his career to the other coaches in the HoF, the majority coached for multiple decades. I think that makes him a long shot.


Current Coach list:

George Allen 1966-1977
Paul Brown 1946-1962
Guy Chamberlin # 1922-1927
Jimmy Conzelman # 1921-30, 1940-42, 1946-48
Weeb Ewbank 1954-1973
Ray Flaherty # 1936-1949
Joe Gibbs 1981-1992
Sid Gillman 1955-1969, 1971-1974
Bud Grant 1967-1983, 1985
George Halas # 1920-29, 1933-42, 1946-67
Earl (Curly) Lambeau # 1919-1953
Tom Landry 1960-1988
Marv Levy 1978-1982, 1986-1997
Vince Lombardi 1959-1967, 1969
John Madden 1969-1978
Earle (Greasy) Neale 1941-1950
Chuck Noll 1969-1991
Steve Owen # 1930-1953
Bill Parcells 1983-1990, 1993-99, 2003-06 Don Shula 1963-1995
Hank Stram 1960-1974, 1976-1977
Bill Walsh 1979-1988

rockonollie

Hazys wrote: »

Harrison is an OJ Simpson waiting to happen:

http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201002/marvin-harrison

Even though he has never been convicted of anything and on the field he has a Hall of Fame resume, the voters probably won't talk about it but his shadyness will have an impact on his chances of getting in.

The OJ Simpson bust is a blemish in the Hall of Fame and its been debated whether if it should remain, they don't want two controversial busts in there.

Not to condone murder.......but there is a difference between murdering your wife and allegedly shooting a drug dealer that was terrorizing your neighborhood.

Hazys

It'd be interesting to be a fly on the wall for the voter discussions of who should get in.

I'd say the debates are fierce as every player has their pros and cons.

rockonollie

Hazys wrote: »

There isn't that many coaches in the HoF, only 22.

Dungy had a very good career but its very very short. Comparing his career to the other coaches in the HoF, the majority coached for multiple decades. I think that makes him a long shot.


Current Coach list:

George Allen 1966-1977
Paul Brown 1946-1962
Guy Chamberlin # 1922-1927
Jimmy Conzelman # 1921-30, 1940-42, 1946-48
Weeb Ewbank 1954-1973
Ray Flaherty # 1936-1949
Joe Gibbs 1981-1992
Sid Gillman 1955-1969, 1971-1974
Bud Grant 1967-1983, 1985
George Halas # 1920-29, 1933-42, 1946-67
Earl (Curly) Lambeau # 1919-1953
Tom Landry 1960-1988
Marv Levy 1978-1982, 1986-1997
Vince Lombardi 1959-1967, 1969
John Madden 1969-1978
Earle (Greasy) Neale 1941-1950
Chuck Noll 1969-1991
Steve Owen # 1930-1953
Bill Parcells 1983-1990, 1993-99, 2003-06 Don Shula 1963-1995
Hank Stram 1960-1974, 1976-1977
Bill Walsh 1979-1988

Agreed....I think he has a chance....just not a great one....Harrison is much more likely.

Dungy's consideration would be that, despite a realtively short career, he was successful in almost every season.

Hazys

Channing Crowder Hall Of Fame Nasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH5wU1J5pX8

spiralism

Regarding the HOF, it's surprising there are so few coaches in it, but then again coaching turnover has never been as prevalent, there's at least one guaranteed HOFer coaching right now and several others who either have a great case (Coughlin) or are building one (Harbaughs). That said, Dungy apart from being so consistent, left a legacy in the Tampa 2 system he and Monte Kiffin implemented (with the same system being applied in Chicago and his Indy teams, amongst others) he became Tampa's first winning coach and then there's his record at Indy which is already stated. Critically in terms of voting anyways, he's the first african american coach to win a superbowl, which imo could get him in alone, given how big a deal was made about that. It also helps that he was just such a class act, humble and respectful and was always such a calm, dignified presence as a coach. He's nailed on to make it imo, first ballot or not remains to be seen.

The HOF has a backlog of receivers now but Harrison has to get in. He's arguably the second greatest WR in the history of the sport, a sure fire lock. If he doesn't get in, it's basically saying that the HOF is too full at that position and that, Jerry Rice aside, the standard cant be met. Cris Carter got in last year anyways so it's moot. Bit of a thug though unfortunately but in terms of what he did on a field he has to get in.

I still have to wonder (I end up asking this every year), and it may just be my Broncos fandom, but how the **** has Steve Atwater not even sniffed the Hall yet? He was one of the best tacklers the game has ever had and defined the position of hard hitting safety. Had 129 tackles his rookie season, 173 his second and was over 100 tackles each of his first five seasons. In a ten year career as a safety he had over 1000 tackles, ranking behind only Dawkins and Ronnie Lott, and with a shorter career than either. Took himself and two players out on a crucial third down in Superbowl 33 which basically sealed the game and was arguably the defensive MVP that day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzqcVO0S5Ww

davyjose

Hazys wrote: »

Harrison is an OJ Simpson waiting to happen:

http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201002/marvin-harrison

Even though he has never been convicted of anything and on the field he has a Hall of Fame resume, the voters probably won't talk about it but his shadyness will have an impact on his chances of getting in.

The OJ Simpson bust is a blemish in the Hall of Fame and its been debated whether if it should remain, they don't want two controversial busts in there.

Harrison was not only not convicted. He was never considered a suspect by the police.
Comparing him to Simpson on the back of some quasi-journalistic piece is either naive or idiotic.