The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread

HigginsJ

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Reading that wilson and Andrew luck wil be looking for 24-25 million next year, If that happens I will be amazed, whatever about Luck, but wilson...no chance

If the salary cap takes the expected big jump then these sort of figures wouldn't surprise me

Son Of A Vidic

Paully D wrote: »

That is really cool. Rivers' disguise :pac:

Is that a 'mullet' wig? :eek:

Neil3030

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Reading that wilson and Andrew luck wil be looking for 24-25 million next year, If that happens I will be amazed, whatever about Luck, but wilson...no chance

I'd be amazed if Wilson even asks for that much. You could nearly get four Michael Bennetts for the same money.

nerd69

Neil3030 wrote: »

I'd be amazed if Wilson even asks for that much. You could nearly get four Michael Bennetts for the same money.

don't be naive the guy has won a Super Bowl on 2nd round money and his career could be ended any time he's goat look after himself.


also if nick roles has another good year he could be asking for almost the same.

helimachoptor

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/06/02/2014-season-record-projections-playoffs-seahawks-colts/9767615/

Preview of what the records will be for next season..

Paully D

helimachoptor wrote: »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/06/02/2014-season-record-projections-playoffs-seahawks-colts/9767615/

Preview of what the records will be for next season..

I'd disagree with:

Colts winning 13 - They should win the division without really breaking sweat but 13 games seems too many. I feel 10 would be more accurate as IMO their schedule is actually more difficult than some think. Mathis missing the start of the season will be difficult and I don't think Andrew Luck will be protected enough.

Texans winning 9 - The new head coach bounce will likely be worth a few more wins, but they have got nothing even close to resembling an every week starting caliber NFL QB and that will be their downfall. Their defense was top 7 last year and they still only won 2 games. They will be drafting quite high next year again IMO.

Chiefs only winning 4 - I think they could have done with a receiver in the draft, but Alex Smith will be playing for a contract and they're a .500 team at least for me.

Vikings only winning 3 - New coach and they're far too talented to only win 3 games, this is the worst prediction of the lot IMO. Peterson is probably worth that on his own.

Buccaneers only winning 3 - Again, the new coach bounce and they're just much better than a 3 win team. Their receivers are match-up nightmares, they've got a good running game, and complemented an already half decent, mid-ranked defense with 6 offensive draft picks. They won 4 games last year and won't win less this year.

glued

glued wrote: »

So with 92 days to kick off in the new NFL season I was wondering if anybody here would be interested in breaking down the 32 teams in the NFL. What we could do is start a sign up thread and get 32 people to sign up, then randomly allocate each 'team scout' a team. Each team scout would have to evaluate the roster, the key roster changes from last year, talk about the schedule and prospects of the team. Include a small bit of talk about the rookies. Then evaluate each teams Superbowl prospects by placing a numerical grade on each team.

It's just a bit of fun and it might help people find out a bit more about each team in the league.

Anyone interested?

So just to get the ball rolling. What aspects of each team would people like to 'scout' about besides the ones mentioned above?

Neil3030

nerd69 wrote: »

don't be naive the guy has won a Super Bowl on 2nd round money and his career could be ended any time he's goat look after himself.


also if nick roles has another good year he could be asking for almost the same.

Yeah but just think about the opportunity to be a smug holier-than-thou all-american choirboy, by *only* asking for ~16m, because of how important are the team, team, team, the team, all about the team, just so grateful to play here, coach carroll, coach bevell, above all jesus christ <barfs>.

helimachoptor

Hands up who hates Russell Wilson....

Knex*

:pac:

I love it.

HigginsJ

helimachoptor wrote: »

Hands up who hates Russell Wilson....

Knex. wrote: »

:pac:

I love it.

It was funny at 1st but is starting to take on a "microwave russell wilsons cat" vibe!!

HigginsJ

Paully D wrote: »

I'd disagree with:

Colts winning 13 - They should win the division without really breaking sweat but 13 games seems too many. I feel 10 would be more accurate as IMO their schedule is actually more difficult than some think. Mathis missing the start of the season will be difficult and I don't think Andrew Luck will be protected enough.

Texans winning 9 - The new head coach bounce will likely be worth a few more wins, but they have got nothing even close to resembling an every week starting caliber NFL QB and that will be their downfall. Their defense was top 7 last year and they still only won 2 games. They will be drafting quite high next year again IMO.

Chiefs only winning 4 - I think they could have done with a receiver in the draft, but Alex Smith will be playing for a contract and they're a .500 team at least for me.

Vikings only winning 3 - New coach and they're far too talented to only win 3 games, this is the worst prediction of the lot IMO. Peterson is probably worth that on his own.

Buccaneers only winning 3 - Again, the new coach bounce and they're just much better than a 3 win team. Their receivers are match-up nightmares, they've got a good running game, and complemented an already half decent, mid-ranked defense with 6 offensive draft picks. They won 4 games last year and won't win less this year.

The 8-8 Cowboys are not finishing 3-13. They have alot of talent still on offense and if Romo is even 70% he is still more than good enough to get them back to 8-8 with Bryant, Witten and a the solid O-line

Think the Giants are spot on for 6-10

Paully D

HigginsJ wrote: »

The 8-8 Cowboys are not finishing 3-13. They have alot of talent still on offense and if Romo is even 70% he is still more than good enough to get them back to 8-8 with Bryant, Witten and a the solid O-line

Think the Giants are spot on for 6-10

Yeah, I briefly scanned through it so thought there would be one or two I'd miss out. Cowboys will win more than 3 games for sure.

Paully D

ESPN (specifically Sam Monson, the writer of that Tom Brady article fame) has ranked the NFL rosters from 1-32. It's an Insider article, but I searched online and someone on a random NFL forum copied and pasted the whole list. Here's the rankings:

1. Seattle
2. San Fran
3. Denver
4. New Orleans
5. Philly
6. New England
7. Cinncy
8. Green Bay
9. Arizona
10. Kansas City
11. Detroit
12. Indy
13. Miami
14. San Diego
15. Chicago
16. Baltimore
17. Tampa
18. Dallas
19. NY Giants
20. Buffalo
21. Tennessee
22. Carolina
23. NY Jets
24. Cleveland
25. Houston
26. Washington
27. Pittsburgh
28. Oakland
29. Minnesota
30. Atlanta
31. St. Louis
32. Jacksonville

There's a good level of detail and reasoning for each of his picks in the article itself, but the ones that jump off the page for me personally would be that I think the Rams and Vikings should definitely be higher and the Lions much lower.

Knex*

Eagles and Dolphins seem a little high to me.

glued

The Bengals have as good a roster as anyone. Top three easily.

Paully D

glued wrote: »

The Bengals have as good a roster as anyone. Top three easily.

I don't think they're quite that good. Certainly not better than the Seahawks, 49ers or Broncos IMO. The fact that Dalton is their QB would take them right out of top 3 contention straight away for me.

The Bengals have really got their hands tied with him now. They've either got to give him a contract that will be far more than he deserves and means they will likely have to let a couple of their other stars walk with renewal time coming up for a some of them, or try to hit on someone else at QB.

I think McCarron would be very interesting. The biggest knock on him is that he's just a game-manager, but that seems to be exactly what the Bengals need. Someone who will keep a talented roster ticking over and won't turn the ball over, which Dalton has done 8 times in 3 playoff games with only 1 TD in return. Alabama and Cincinnati are very comparable in that respect.

The window to win in the NFL is not very long and the Bengals have some very tough decisions to make in the near future. If they give Dalton a deal in the $18m-$20m range which he is reported to be seeking then they've severely handcuffed themselves.

Neil3030

HigginsJ wrote: »

It was funny at 1st but is starting to take on a "microwave russell wilsons cat" vibe!!

I don't get it...

He'd so have a cat though. Nowhere near cool enough to have a dog.

HigginsJ

Neil3030 wrote: »

I don't get it...

He'd so have a cat though. Nowhere near cool enough to have a dog.

"Wilson has three dogs: a beagle, Penny, a dachshund, Cali, and a Great Dane named Prince"

"Wilson is an active volunteer in the Seattle community. During the NFL season, Wilson makes weekly visits on his days off to the Seattle Children's Hospital"

TO.

What's with all the hate for Russell Wilson. I love the guy.

UnitedIrishman

HigginsJ wrote: »

"Wilson has three dogs: a beagle, Penny, a dachshund, Cali, and a Great Dane named Prince"

"Wilson is an active volunteer in the Seattle community. During the NFL season, Wilson makes weekly visits on his days off to the Seattle Children's Hospital"

I think Heli just puked all over his computer in a mixture of rage and loathing.

helimachoptor

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

I think Heli just puked all over his computer in a mixture of rage and loathing.

im just waiting for Neil to say he actually does all of that!

raze_them_all_

HigginsJ wrote: »

"Wilson has three dogs: a beagle, Penny, a dachshund, Cali, and a Great Dane named Prince"

"Wilson is an active volunteer in the Seattle community. During the NFL season, Wilson makes weekly visits on his days off to the Seattle Children's Hospital"

Must be tough for him choosing which to sacrafice

Neil3030

TO. wrote: »

What's with all the hate for Russell Wilson. I love the guy.

BANNED

TO.

Neil3030 wrote: »

BANNED

Meh. Bans are like a walk in the park for me..... :pac:

adrian522

Neil3030 wrote: »

BANNED

Bet your bottom dollar Russell Wilson never been banned. Too busy helping out at the local children's hospital

Itssoeasy

HigginsJ wrote: »

"Wilson has three dogs: a beagle, Penny, a dachshund, Cali, and a Great Dane named Prince"

"Wilson is an active volunteer in the Seattle community. During the NFL season, Wilson makes weekly visits on his days off to the Seattle Children's Hospital"

Fair enough the guy has dogs and is a nice guy but what the hell has that got to do with him being able to throw a football ?

nerd69

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Fair enough the guy has dogs and is a nice guy but what the hell has that got to do with him being able to throw a football ?

And a Super Bowl ring only 2 years in to his career

Itssoeasy

nerd69 wrote: »

And a Super Bowl ring only 2 years in to his career

Yeah I. Know he has a ring as I watched it live. But owning a dogs means feck all really.

raze_them_all_

nerd69 wrote: »

And a Super Bowl ring only 2 years in to his career

not bad considering they were ranked 31 out of 32 in passing last year, it's almost like there was more important players than the qb