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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread
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Cam Newton wrote: »Anyone else secretly hoping their team sends a 4th rounder to Seattle and try to reignite Aaron Curry?
I am
Curry is now a Raider
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Cam Newton wrote: »Curry is now a Raider
Any news on what they gave up? Good trade if you ask me, Curry still has the potential to turn into a productive player and if he can fit into the Raiders system he has all the attributes to be successful. With so much young talent at the Raiders this could be a great signing0 -
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Dohnny Jepp wrote: »Have to say i'm a massive Mason fan. I was gutted when himself and the titans parted ways. May not be the quickest but excelent route running and safe hands.
Definitly
Best reciever the Ravens ever had
In time Anquan Boldin should take this mantle but Mason will go down as a Baltimore legend
Leader of the Ravens offense for a long while, here he is playing while dislocating his shoulder three times
Wow :cool:
Almost won a Superbowl with the Titans also
Time was right to release him from the Ravens, the Ravens now have Boldin, Lee Evans and some speedy rookies
Tennessee was still his main team, Ring of Honour in Tennessee or Baltimore some day soon I guess0 -
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Been watching a Jon Gruden documentary and showing how a young Chris Simms was struggling badly with the verbage, I think verbage is the correct term
He'd be given a play and be told to repeat in the huddle and he'd constantly mess it up
Gruden then said Favre grasped it all pretty quickly and they showed a few clips of Favre listing off plays no problem. Gruden spent a few years in Green Bay
Could a coach in the Irish league post up a typical play? Just to see how long and complicated it is.
Or are they top secret?
Do ye include audibles and a kill option?0 -
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Could a coach in the Irish league post up a typical play? Just to see how long and complicated it is.
Or are they top secret?
Do ye include audibles and a kill option?
Nowhere near as complicated as the NFL. Even College and High School playbooks are less complicated than the Pros.
A couple of examples of plays I used in 2010:
Twins Razor 32 dive
or
Trips right 2 lazer 47 speed sweep
or
Twins fake 32 dive 965
Now having said that my playbook has gotten more advanced in 2011 and for next year but I would rather not post the play names in here
They include hot routes, Audibles and Options.
Edit: I will say though as attendances have gotten better for UCD and as the program grows I found it much easier to implement tougher playbooks. But the problem is with Advanced or hard to understand playbooks is that players who dont give 100% are constantly lost or getting plays wrong. Consistency is key and we don't always get that. That and UCD gets a bucket load of rookies every year.0 -
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Been watching a Jon Gruden documentary and showing how a young Chris Simms was struggling badly with the verbage, I think verbage is the correct term
He'd be given a play and be told to repeat in the huddle and he'd constantly mess it up
Gruden then said Favre grasped it all pretty quickly and they showed a few clips of Favre listing off plays no problem. Gruden spent a few years in Green Bay
Could a coach in the Irish league post up a typical play? Just to see how long and complicated it is.
Or are they top secret?
Do ye include audibles and a kill option?
as Tallaght has already pointed out NFL plays would be more complex and they would normally call two plays in the huddle in the NFL anyway one run and one pass so they can kill out of the deemed play based on the look of the defense.
This has me looking back at my old 2008 and 2009 playbooks and its funny how simple it is in comparison to NCAA or College Football playbooks
Tight RIP Super Power right QB Right. (Run)
King Right Jet 637 Double check swing. (Pass)
thats without an motions etc. Far more complex in the NFL if you google you can find old bits of NFL playbooks online0 -
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as Tallaght has already pointed out NFL plays would be more complex and they would normally call two plays in the huddle in the NFL anyway one run and one pass so they can kill out of the deemed play based on the look of the defense.
This has me looking back at my old 2008 and 2009 playbooks and its funny how simple it is in comparison to NCAA or College Football playbooks
Tight RIP Super Power right QB Right. (Run)
King Right Jet 637 Double check swing. (Pass)
thats without an motions etc. Far more complex in the NFL if you google you can find old bits of NFL playbooks online
Those plays were taken from a college playbook
For the most part High School and College playbooks are basic enough. When it comes to the playbook the complexity is down to whoever the head coach is. Most keep it simple for players to pick up. These plays you mentioned as well as the ones I did would be very similar to that used by high schools or colleges.
Looking at two playbooks I have here in front of me one from a high school and one from a D2 college they are handy enough. The difference is some like to use packages and each package will have an average of 4 or 5 plays per package. But the play calling is basic enough.
But if anyone wants to see examples of playbooks go here:
https://fastandfuriousfootball.com/
It has old NFL, College and High School playbooks. I have used it over the years for ideas. Love reading playbooks one of the things thats helped me grow as a coach that with experience and Coach friends in the US and clinics.0 -
tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »Those plays were taken from a college playbook For the most part High School and College playbooks are basic enough. When it comes to the playbook the complexity is down to whoever the head coach is. Most keep it simple for players to pick up. These plays you mentioned as well as the ones I did would be very similar to that used by high schools or colleges.
yeah you were a lazy sod coach stealing playbook plays
;) albeit I suggest the less complex plays in a college book.
but yeah your right most keep it simple sometimes less is more. Just take an inside Run to the right for example now they are still basic but you get the idea
Dive right
42 Dive
Trey left 42 dive
Iso Trips left 42 dive
if you draw the 4 of those plays up they are all identical on the board, man for man.
sometimes the complexity is there just for the sake of it0 -
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yeah you were a lazy sod coach stealing playbook plays;) albeit I suggest the less complex plays in a college book.
Borrowing Come a long way since then. Have to start somewhere hahabut yeah your right most keep it simple sometimes less is more. Just take an inside Run to the right for example now they are still basic but you get the idea
Very true.Dive right
42 Dive
Trey left 42 dive
Iso Trips left 42 dive
if you draw the 4 of those plays up they are all identical on the board, man for man.
Yeah pretty much and as you pointed out above the run itself is the same but the formation will change or the blocking scheme will change etc etc hence where the complexity of play calling comes in.sometimes the complexity is there just for the sake of it
I found starting out with UCD sometimes basic is best and then progress over the next couple of seasons.0 -
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