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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread
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Chucky the tree wrote: »Shannahan has full control over everything in Washington. If Synder wants Manning he'll be looking for a new HC to go with it.
I don't see why this would be the case. Manning, as someone said, will be released, so the Redskins can probably pick him up relatively cheaply. Why not make a 2 or 3 year deal, with nothing to lose?
Let's be honest, Manning doesn't seem the type to risk his future health for a pay-packet. I think his return would depend on him being able to perform at close to his best. As far as professional athletes go, he's as mature and pragmatic as they come, so if he comes back*, he'll be an absolute steal for a team.
IMO if he doesn't retire, he'll have his pick of teams (would love to see him in Seattle -- he'd be playing a few hours drive from my front door
). Either way, I'll always watch out for him, and hope he succeeds wherever he does go.
*And I find it hard to believe he's putting all this work in at the gym, watching the team he built collapse around him, if he weren't confident of getting healthy.0 -
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I don't see why this would be the case. Manning, as someone said, will be released, so the Redskins can probably pick him up relatively cheaply. Why not make a 2 or 3 year deal, with nothing to lose?
Let's be honest, Manning doesn't seem the type to risk his future health for a pay-packet. I think his return would depend on him being able to perform at close to his best. As far as professional athletes go, he's as mature and pragmatic as they come, so if he comes back*, he'll be an absolute steal for a team.
IMO if he doesn't retire, he'll have his pick of teams (would love to see him in Seattle -- he'd be playing a few hours drive from my front door). Either way, I'll always watch out for him, and hope he succeeds wherever he does go.
*And I find it hard to believe he's putting all this work in at the gym, watching the team he built collapse around him, if he weren't confident of getting healthy.
again excerpts from that article:
Free agent like no other
Assuming Manning is healthy – and that may be the biggest “if” of this entire discussion – he may be the most attractive free agent in the history of football. Simply, elite quarterbacks such as Peyton Manning never hit the open market; this is why such ransoms are paid in trades for quarterbacks such as Jay Cutler and Carson Palmer.
also this seems the agents advice as Andrew Brandt is an agent
Reading between the lines from interviews, tweets and perhaps conversations with confidante Rob Lowe, my sense is that what Irsay truly wants is for Manning to retire. He does not want to cut or trade Peyton Manning. Thus, that leaves two options: (1) going forward with the financial and organizational commitment to a player that may be compromised physically, or (2) having Manning retire, certainly with some continuing role on the team.
The problem for Irsay is that Manning – despite no immediate assurances from the medical side – wants to play.
What I would do
As hard as it is to part with the face of the franchise, I would move on.
The confluence of three factors – (1) a massive financial commitment required — $35.4 million in 2012 alone, (2) an uncertain neck condition involving regeneration of nerves (this is not a shoulder or knee injury), and (3) a special player in Luck, available for half the price at the same position – all conspire towards a parting of ways.
Like the Packers and Brett Favre, the Colts would prefer a nice, easy retirement from their longtime superstar, with a non-playing role with the team to come. Sometimes, however, the script does not have a clean and tidy ending. There are factors to this negotiation that are beyond the parameters of the contract or any negotiations. This could get messy. The public relations spinning has begun and emotions will run high.
March 8th beckons, with the eyes of the football world upon it.
As a released player rather than an unrestricted free agent whose contract has expired, the Colts can neither (1) place the Franchise tag on Manning, nor (2) receive a 2013 compensatory draft pick if Manning signs elsewhere.
Again, it is curious why the Colts would agree to this poorly timed option clause, but Manning used his leverage to create options for himself.
so it does appear Manning through his leverage has left a situation where if healthy he gets released as a free agent and gets to pick his team . And the article goes on to explain it will have to be a competitive team as he gets to pick the team and that would mean one with a reasonable Back up QB plan like Seattle TJack, Miami and MMoore.
Manning may view Washington as already competitive on the defensive side of the ball . As Seattle in a similar position and Denver but others are sure to appear good
A playoff team in Denver is certainly possible . The sense of old-school values and continuity would negate Baltimore & Flacco but is his (Flacco) hold on the job that secure (his championship game performance was an upgrade on before notwithstanding) which brings us to the two most likely Arizona & the 49ers. I for one dont see the Jets making the move ... i think RRyan will try and resurrect Sanchez before discarding him
I think Kolbs hold on his job is very tenuous...they had a bad line with the worst LT in the league but Kolb was atrocious and the availability of Matt Flynn will surely test that job security but a fit-again Manning is a no-brainer but would Arizona's ability to win be good enough for Peyton?
Which brings us to SanFran ...they are already good enough with an elite defence ....they need an elite reciever but they have just been to the Championship Game . They have a respected coach ...good with quarterbacks , surely it would tick all the boxes for Manning so now can he be fit to hold up his end !!!!!0 -
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