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Stats: Why is Health always dropped when calculating Public service stats?

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  • 04-12-2009 1:24pm
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    Dannyboy83
    Registered Users Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭


    I was just wondering why is Health always dropped when calculating Public service stats?
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/budget/analysis-overview/public-sector-not-carrying-its-share-of-our-burden-1963989.html

    Here is what the statistics actually do tell us. The latest data from the Central Statistics Office -- showing earnings in private and public sectors through the second quarter of this year -- show that earnings in the public sector (excluding Health) have increased from just under €943 per week in the second quarter of 2008 to €973 per week in the same period this year -- a rise of more than 3.2pc in one year.

    All in, in the second quarter of this year the average mid-to-top grade private sector worker was earning 2.2pc less than the average public sector employee (excluding those working in health).


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    The_Honeybadger
    Registered Users Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    Dannyboy83 wrote: »
    I was just wondering why is Health always dropped when calculating Public service stats?
    I assume it is because health workers are paid alot more than other members of PS and it would skew the figures? Not sure but that is what I think


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    Scofflaw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    As far as I know it's because the HSE doesn't provide the stats sufficiently quickly to be included in the most recent analyses.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


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    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Rather than being "dropped" statistics in health have never been included...because the CSO dont have any info to use!!!:pac:
    Health The employment details for this sector are obtained from the quantity census conducted by the Health Service Executive and are recorded on a full-time equivalent basis. Earnings information is not available at present. From March 2007 certain grades, categories and subsumed agencies
    are included. A direct comparison with previous data is not possible.


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    ardmacha
    Registered Users Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Sure could they not use PPARS to extract the HSE data quickly.


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    Dannyboy83
    Registered Users Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Dannyboy83


    ardmacha wrote: »
    Sure could they not use PPARS to extract the HSE data quickly.

    I thought the whole point of the HSE was that all this stuff was centralised?
    The mind boggles. (again).


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    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    ardmacha wrote: »
    Sure could they not use PPARS to extract the HSE data quickly.

    did they ever get that to work? and for how much??

    i hear they use PPARS in soft eng classes as an example of what can go wrong


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    ardmacha
    Registered Users Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    did they ever get that to work

    I doubt it. I was being somewhat tongue in cheek in suggesting it.

    PPARS failed because computers require order and logic and the system in the HSE didn't have that. It wasn't a software failure so much as a management failure.


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