Am I Irish?

Dr_Phil

Quick question, as a foreigner: when do you consider a person to be Irish:

1. When has an Irish citizensip
2. Was born in Ireland
3. Born in Ireland from Irish parents, who were born from Irish parents, etc, etc..
4. Is just well integrated into society and the lifestyle


Cheers.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

When he moans about politicans and then votes Fianna Fail in 3 (three) consecutive elections.

Mad_Max

When they pay taxes.

robbie_998

when his parents parents and his parents are all irish born in ireland and when they are born in ireland them selves,

pretty much when they are all irish born, all the crap about not having irish parents but being born in ireland, the government makes you irish is gone, they stopped that.

dreamers75

Can you play for ireland ?



sadly thats the criteria.

Nettie

If you've lived here most your life and your parents (or maybe just one) are Irish.

wudangclan

When you have an Irish accent.

aftermn

Don't know for sure, but think if you are born here you qualify. Certainly if you are born here of at least 1 irish citizen, then you qualify.

If you are a multi-millionaire from Arabia, you certainly qualify, irrespective of birth.

Holsten

Born here, parents born here.

Lirael

robbie_998 wrote: »

when his parents parents and his parents are all irish born in ireland and when they are born in ireland them selves,

pretty much when they are all irish born, all the crap about not having irish parents but being born in ireland, the government makes you irish is gone, they stopped that.

not actually, when I child is born to non-Irish parents who lived there for 5 years may be awarded Irish citizenship :P

Quazzie

Your Irish when you wake up dying with a hangover and your first thought is that another drink will cure it.

Abi

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Quick question, as a foreigner: when do you consider a person to be Irish:

1. When has an Irish citizensip
2. Was born in Ireland
3. Born in Ireland from Irish parents, who were born from Irish parents, etc, etc..
4. Is just well integrated into society and the lifestyle


Cheers.

It's a trap!


Why you wanna know?

Lirael

wudangclan wrote: »

When you have an Irish accent.

try to speak other languages with no irish accent :P

I'd say I may have better irish accent than u might speak my language no offence

robbie_998

Lirael wrote: »

not actually, when I child is born to non-Irish parents who lived there for 5 years may be awarded Irish citizenship :P

how long ago was that ?

if your born here and your parents werent it does not make you irish.

the government stopped that !

it now must be irish roots etc.

no more of that your born here therefore your irish crap, its gone

Dr_Phil

Abigayle wrote: »

It's a trap!


Why you wanna know?

I've loads of questions my dear... There's just not enough cans.

opinion guy

I agree with wudangclan - its all in the accent

Sharpshooter

If you are born in Ireland, then you are an Irish citizen.

Afaik it doesn't matter what nationality your parents are, but if they are different to yours then you have dual citizenship re whatever country they were born in.

This I know because of my liking of Wrestling believe it or not.

PatrickD32

The subject of original post was "am i irish" then in original post you never say whch category of list you gave that you fall into?

So who knows what you are.

Maybe a confused foreigner mingling with Irish people

Id say they all kind of are Irish in way, just different.

True irish is born here! Otherwise you are where you were born/reared etc

ShaneU

Born here.

partyatmygaff

If you were born here and have lived here all your life you become Irish - (Whatever other nationality
Kind of like Irish-American.

Lirael

robbie_998 wrote: »

how long ago was that ?

if your born here and your parents werent it does not make you irish.

the government stopped that !

it now must be irish roots etc.

no more of that your born here therefore your irish crap, its gone

no, they stopped giving irish citizenship to children born of non irish parents despite the lenght of stay there

I may be wrong, but I have read it somewhere that a child may be naturalized after the parents stayed at least 5 years in the state and the parents do not have to ...

though I'd say that no foreigner will ever be real Irish even if they had a passport with lire

Abi

Dr_Phil wrote: »

I've loads of questions my dear... There's just not enough cans.

Give it to us in short hand then darling.

As most of this responses to this thread probably tell you, you will never be accepted as Irish if every single one of your ancestors weren't Irish. If you have a skin tone darker than pasty white, you will never be considered Irish, no matter how well you hold your drink, how much of an Irish accent you have and how Irish your last name is. I am seen as Irish to everyone but the Irish. I've gone way past caring, since I've dual nationality and the other one is much more accepting, despite me having spent much less of my life there.

Sharpshooter

Sharpshooter wrote: »

If you are born in Ireland, then you are an Irish citizen.

Afaik it doesn't matter what nationality your parents are, but if they are different to yours then you have dual citizenship re whatever country they were born in.

This I know because of my liking of Wrestling believe it or not.

Erm, did you miss that whole referendum thing a few years back?

kowloon

Anyone who wants to be Irish can be Irish if they don't act the £$%&*.

Not big into the idea of nationalism.

robbie_998

Lirael wrote: »

no, they stopped giving irish citizenship to children born of non irish parents despite the lenght of stay there

I may be wrong, but I have read it somewhere that a child may be naturalized after the parents stayed at least 5 years in the state and the parents do not have to ...

is that not what i said in a nut shell ?

if your born here but you parents weren't then your not irish

basically your parents and parents parents must be in someway irish or have irish roots,

mikom

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Quick question, as a foreigner: when do you consider a person to be Irish:

1. When has an Irish citizensip
2. Was born in Ireland
3. Born in Ireland from Irish parents, who were born from Irish parents, etc, etc..
4. Is just well integrated into society and the lifestyle


Cheers.

Forget all that.
You are Irish if you can answer yes to one or both of the following questions.

1. Have you ever worked a full week in the bog, turnin', footin', stuckin' turf?

2. Have you ever wanked and subsequently sprayed whilst thinking about Australia?

partyatmygaff

robbie_998 wrote: »

is that not what i said in a nut shell ?

if your born here but you parents weren't then your not irish

basically your parents and parents parents must be in someway irish or have irish roots,

Those that are born to parents not born in Ireland never really have a true nationality. In Ireland they are viewed as foreign and in their parents home country they are viewed as Irish.

IMO, if you grow up in Ireland you're Irish.

Lirael

robbie_998 wrote: »

is that not what i said in a nut shell ?

if your born here but you parents weren't then your not irish

basically your parents and parents parents must be in someway irish or have irish roots,

hell, but what about NATURALIZATION??????????

Dr_Phil

[quote=[Deleted User];63347466]As most of this responses to this thread probably tell you, you will never be accepted as Irish if every single one of your ancestors weren't Irish.[/quote]
Ha, it reminds me of experiment a few English lords went for, being 1000% sure they are all pure English blood - gene testing. The result was... a bit surprising: only one of them was in 40% English, the other lads were barely getting 20%.

Ah, lovely Irony..

dsmythy

Citizen + Well Integrated + Liking what you are integrated into = Irish in my book.

Lirael

mikom wrote: »

Forget all that.
You are Irish if you can answer yes to one or both of the following questions.

1. Have you ever worked a full week in the bog, turnin', footin', stuckin' turf?

2. Have you ever wanked and subsequently sprayed whilst thinking about Australia?

what ye irish have all this about australia??

it's hot low populated with ca 70% of the land not nice to live in and .... gotcha - women get old faster there ... it's all about too much sun and low humidity

robbie_998

Lirael wrote: »

hell, but what about NATURALIZATION??????????

What about it ?

your either irish or your not.

none of this having 2 passports/nationality crap, only one passport !

Sharpshooter

[quote=[Deleted User];63347471]Erm, did you miss that whole referendum thing a few years back?[/quote]

Sorry, wires crossed.

I was referring to Mexican and American dual citizenship hence the Wrestling reference.

Dr_Phil

robbie_998 wrote: »

What about it ?

your either irish or your not.

none of this having 2 passports/nationality crap, only one passport !

Do born here from the Irish parents, etc. Irish stop being Irish once they get American, Australian, German passport?

Latchy

Dr_Phil wrote: »

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Am I Irish?

More importantly ,do ya wanna be ? And why ? :cool:

we needz to know these things :cool: :cool:

robbie_998

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Do born here from the Irish parents, etc. Irish stop being Irish once they get American, Australian, German passport?

why the hell would ya have one of those if your irish in the first place.

get a damn irish passport !

Lirael

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Do born here from the Irish parents, etc. Irish stop being Irish once they get American, Australian, German passport?

that's the point ...

but what would you say to a child who was born in Ireland and got Irish passport but has never been to his parents' country ... ie of the war there?????

would you consider that child not Irish despite it lived all his life in Ireland???

Lirael

robbie_998 wrote: »

why the hell would ya have one of those if your irish in the first place.

get a damn irish passport !

I'd say in some places it is convenient to have other one :P

Dr_Phil

robbie_998 wrote: »

why the hell would ya have one of those if your irish in the first place.

Because it's just a piece of paper that makes your life easy sometimes.

What about "I love Ireland and it's people, I wasn't born here, but I would fight for Ireland if there was a war"? Is that person less Irish than a scumbag who holds a piece of paper called Irish passport and was born from Irish scumbag parents?

robbie_998

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Because it's just a piece of paper that makes your life easy sometimes.

What about "I love Ireland and it's people, I wasn't born here, but I would fight for Ireland if there was a war"? Is that person less Irish than a scumbag who holds a piece of paper called Irish passport and was born from Irish scumbag parents?

i dont know much about the irish army but i mostly see irish people in it...no ?

anyway its not about that

cruiser178

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Quick question, as a foreigner: when do you consider a person to be Irish:

1. When has an Irish citizensip
2. Was born in Ireland
3. Born in Ireland from Irish parents, who were born from Irish parents, etc, etc..
4. Is just well integrated into society and the lifestyle


Cheers.

when your second name IS IRISH,when your grandparents tell you your family history like mine did...my second name is mannion..then you know your irish.

Dr_Phil

cruiser178 wrote: »

when your second name IS IRISH

Not English in any way I understand?

ascanbe

Before the citizenship referendum, a cowardly way of dealing with our inability to conduct an efficient asylum process, if you were born here then you're Irish; as it should be.
At least since the passing of a law in the 90's, if I remember correctly.

robbie_998

cruiser178 wrote: »

when your second name IS IRISH,when your grandparents tell you your family history like mine did...my second name is mannion..then you know your irish.

Theres a local shop near me called "Mannion's".

sorry to say the owner is quite "tight"

Abi

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Because it's just a piece of paper that makes your life easy sometimes.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but born-bread-and-buttered Irish people don't see it that way, in fact.. for the most part the complete opposite. Have you heard how we talk about our country and the state it's in?

What about "I love Ireland and it's people, I wasn't born here, but I would fight for Ireland if there was a war"? Is that person less Irish than a scumbag who holds a piece of paper called Irish passport and was born from Irish scumbag parents?

I don't think so. But you seem to have an issue here that I don't understand.

I'm not being smart about this, but why don't you put you cards on the table? If you're vague from the start it doesn't exactly give people the incentive to entrust someone.

Latchy

robbie_998 wrote: »

i dont know much about the irish army but i mostly see irish people in it...no ?

Yup, in the main yes although in recent years there has being some non irish to be found amoung it's ranks .Last time I was entering Mckee barracks dublin I was greeted by the guard on the gate with the strongest scouse accent ie, ' how's it going mate ' ? :eek:

no kidding

cruiser178

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Not English in any way I understand?

i didnt say anything about english what are you on about?

Lirael

cruiser178 wrote: »

i didnt say anything about english what are you on about?

it's about that not all Irish use names in Irish language .... most of ye have English names

cruiser178

robbie_998 wrote: »

Theres a local shop near me called "Mannion's".

sorry to say the owner is quite "tight"

what you on about? so what if hes tight

ascanbe

[quote=[Deleted User];63347466]As most of this responses to this thread probably tell you, you will never be accepted as Irish if every single one of your ancestors weren't Irish. If you have a skin tone darker than pasty white, you will never be considered Irish, no matter how well you hold your drink, how much of an Irish accent you have and how Irish your last name is. I am seen as Irish to everyone but the Irish. I've gone way past caring, since I've dual nationality and the other one is much more accepting, despite me having spent much less of my life there.[/quote]

This is true. addedum: to idiots.