Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

cormacjones · 08-08-2014 11:37am

ssbob wrote: »

Unless Shane wins this week, that changes things for sure.......

You are obviously in a better position than me but from the outside the whole legal issues must be putting a serious strain on their relationship.

I agree.

I could be wrong, but they also don't seem to play practice rounds with each other anymore.

Wombatman · 08-08-2014 12:32pm

From the PGA Tour Website

His father, Brendan, was a well-known and successful Gaelic soccer :eek: star who played on the All-Ireland Championship team (County Offaly in 1982).

http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.33204.shane-lowry.html/profile

AGC · 08-08-2014 12:36pm

He just teed off and its lashing it down

Speak Now · 08-08-2014 2:15pm

Couple of dropped shots to start round 2, cut line looming now. Lets hope he steadies from here.

vienne86 · 09-08-2014 8:30am

Good man, Shane - made the cut with a stroke to spare. This'll be great experience for him. Hope he pushes on today.

rrpc · 09-08-2014 9:00am

GMac just made it too, but with less to spare. Still not out of it; either of them.

Speak Now · 09-08-2014 9:03am

He's out with Sergio today at 15:10 Irish time.

rrpc · 09-08-2014 9:15am

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

He's out with Sergio today at 15:10 Irish time.

Sergio's Irish nightmare continues

vienne86 · 09-08-2014 3:15pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

He's out with Sergio today at 15:10 Irish time.

So we might get to see a bit of Shane's play - I hope so anyway.

Speak Now · 09-08-2014 5:00pm

rrpc wrote: »

Sergio's Irish nightmare continues

Unfortunately not :-( Sergio 5 shots better than Shane over the first 6 holes.

Maths1 · 09-08-2014 7:08pm

its quite simple why Sergio is shots ahead of Lowry.Sergio is longer off the tee.Lowry loses shots by not making birdies on the par 5's and struggles for pars on the long 4s. In 2008 Mcilroy was 280 off the tee,lowry was 290 according to European
Tour Stats. Lowry is no longer off the tee than when he started playing on tour.He needs a professional coach to take him to the next level. I think he is a very talented golfer,who needs to work on the weakneses in his game.If he were to work on his drives between now and the next Open-he would have a great chance of winning.no golfer will ever contend in Majors in America if they are not long off the tee.

cairny · 09-08-2014 9:08pm

Maths1 wrote: »

its quite simple why Sergio is shots ahead of Lowry.Sergio is longer off the tee.Lowry loses shots by not making birdies on the par 5's and struggles for pars on the long 4s. In 2008 Mcilroy was 280 off the tee,lowry was 290 according to European
Tour Stats. Lowry is no longer off the tee than when he started playing on tour.He needs a professional coach to take him to the next level. I think he is a very talented golfer,who needs to work on the weakneses in his game.If he were to work on his drives between now and the next Open-he would have a great chance of winning.no golfer will ever contend in Majors in America if they are not long off the tee.

Why do you think he doesn't have a professional coach? Neil Manchip afaik.

Rikand · 09-08-2014 9:26pm

He should give butch a call...

PARlance · 09-08-2014 9:28pm

Lowry doesn't strike me as a short hitter.
Everyone's short compared to Rory of late.

Maths1 · 10-08-2014 12:32am

My point is that Rory's coach was able to give him extra yardage, but Shane yardage has remained the same.When Shane
competed in a tournament in America he said he cried afterwards because he realised he was not good enough. I think he
should have got somebody else to have a look at his game then.he would not have lost anything by doing that. he is playing on tour 5 years now.He should be contending more often then he does. Manchip was coaching him when he was an amateur. When Rory's putting was off ,he consulted Dave Stockton. who played himself at the highest level

cairny · 10-08-2014 12:50am

Maths1 wrote: »

My point is that Rory's coach was able to give him extra yardage, but Shane yardage has remained the same.When Shane
competed in a tournament in America he said he cried afterwards because he realised he was not good enough. I think he
should have got somebody else to have a look at his game then.he would not have lost anything by doing that. he is playing on tour 5 years now.He should be contending more often then he does. Manchip was coaching him when he was an amateur. When Rory's putting was off ,he consulted Dave Stockton. who played himself at the highest level

But Rory's had the same swing coach since he was a kid, there's just not much logic I what's you're saying imho.

Lowry is progressing well, his length off the tee is very respectable, comparing him, or anyone, to Rory is just silly.

Maths1 · 10-08-2014 1:28am

If you think Shane's lenght of the tee does not matter that much-check his stats for par 5's. As for Rory's coach, he is
obviously a good one.(otherwise Rory would not be as good as he is).If he is progressing well ,why was Shane worried about keeping his tour card. It seems that he does not really play well until into the summer. He missed the cut for the 3 opening
tournaments played in the middle east this year and missed them last year too. I want to see Shane get into the top 50,
and have the game to stay their.

h2005 · 10-08-2014 1:34am

PARlance wrote: »

Lowry doesn't strike me as a short hitter.
Everyone's short compared to Rory of late.

From the stats I can see he's not. He's averaging 288. The PGA average in 2013 was 280.

cairny · 10-08-2014 1:47am

Maths1 wrote: »

If you think Shane's lenght of the tee does not matter that much-check his stats for par 5's. As for Rory's coach, he is
obviously a good one.(otherwise Rory would not be as good as he is).If he is progressing well ,why was Shane worried about keeping his tour card. It seems that he does not really play well until into the summer. He missed the cut for the 3 opening
tournaments played in the middle east this year and missed them last year too. I want to see Shane get into the top 50,
and have the game to stay their.

Terrible start to the year alright, so what though? Rory had terrible form 12 months ago but didn't dump his long term coach.

He's played really well this summer, game on an upward curve, qualifying for majors, making cuts, contending and you want him to change coach?

In relation to distance off the tee in 2008 it might be more relevant that he was 21 in 2008 and Rory was 19.

vienne86 · 10-08-2014 8:50am

Anyway, Shane will be first out today. What on earth happened to him yesterday? Everyone else seemed to find the course much easier yesterday.

rrpc · 10-08-2014 10:23am

Shane may lack a bit of distance off the tee but so does GMac and he can get into contention quite a bit. He seems to be pretty inaccurate with his drives though (about 60%) and so far has only about 50% GIR. Add to that his putting return and it's no real surprise he's at the bottom of the leaderboard.

I'd suspect that his inaccuracy off the tee is giving him problems with his approaches and it's downhill from there since he's probably giving himself too much work with the putter to just save par.

rrpc · 10-08-2014 3:15pm

Shane started with a bogey on two but has put in two back to back birdies on 4 and 5. He's had a short enough drive on the 7th (280) but could get himself into a scoring position if he can make the green on his second shot.

Edit: Must have decided it was too risky to take on and bailed to the right hand fairway and ended with a par

vienne86 · 10-08-2014 3:29pm

Another birdie on 8. C'mon Shane! It would be great to see him move up the leaderboard a bit.

vienne86 · 10-08-2014 5:07pm

Shane on -3 for the day, level par for the tournament, with two holes to go. His playing partner is having a nightmare day, which won't be helping the concentration.

vienne86 · 10-08-2014 5:28pm

And Shane birdies the last. That was a good round - well done man!

vienne86 · 11-08-2014 1:36pm

Seems to have dropped two places to 60th in the World Rankings. Wish I knew how this worked!

slave1 · 11-08-2014 2:51pm

vienne86 wrote: »

Seems to have dropped two places to 60th in the World Rankings. Wish I knew how this worked!

Maths, he lost ground on the math average of others, real key to improve is to gain more points than you lose, that way you're not relying on performance of others.

slave1 · 29-08-2014 9:19am

This guy seems to disappear for weeks from tournament play but he's tweeted he's about to play 9 of the next 12 weeks, seems an irregular playing pattern but who am I to query.
Hope he does well...

pistol_75 · 29-08-2014 9:32am

slave1 wrote: »

This guy seems to disappear for weeks from tournament play but he's tweeted he's about to play 9 of the next 12 weeks, seems an irregular playing pattern but who am I to query.
Hope he does well...

There hasn't been a lot for him tournament wise in the last couple of weeks given that he can't make the Ryder cup. There are however some big tournaments coming up which I suppose he wanted to be fresh for with a lot of WR points up for grabs.

He seems to me to be in a very good place at the moment and managing his schedule very well. Here's hoping he can make the Top 50 before the end of the year.

slave1 · 29-08-2014 9:43am

I dunno, one tournament in 6 weeks is quite low...

Speak Now · 29-08-2014 9:48am

Shane will play the next 2 weeks in Switzerland and the Netherlands and then will obviously have Ryder cup week off.

He should be out for 2 weeks again then in the Dunhill links and Portugal Masters and possibly a 3rd week in Volvo world matchplay? (Wouldn't be in on the criteria currently but if they have to move down the current race to Dubai list he may have a shout)
Another 2 week break then would bring him to the final series where id imagine he'll be going for all 4 events.

Easy to see why he sat out the recent small money events.

A drive to finish top 50 in OWGR by end of year to secure a place in The Masters??

pistol_75 · 29-08-2014 9:50am

slave1 wrote: »

I dunno, one tournament in 6 weeks is quite low...

There hasn't been a whole lot to get excited about in Europe though and he couldn't play in the Fed-Ex play-offs. I guess if he was eligible to play in those then he would be playing over there.

November would be a nice time to peak with 4 tournaments with an average prize fund of around $7.5 million

Speak Now · 04-09-2014 10:48am

Nice little run from Lowry to be -4 after 12 holes in the European Masters.

Eagle, birdie, birdie to start the front 9 (His back 9)

Edit: Just bogeyed the next so -3 T6th 2 off the lead.

vienne86 · 05-09-2014 7:54am

Lowry in a good position in the Omega. Hope he pushes on today. Sky commentators seem to like him.....were remarking that he has a nice game and doesn't go messing with his swing on the practice ground. He's good to watch and I hope we see more of him today.

abff · 05-09-2014 8:47am

vienne86 wrote: »

Seems to have dropped two places to 60th in the World Rankings. Wish I knew how this worked!

The World Rankings are based on a rolling two year average, subject to a maximum of 52 tournaments being taken into account. In calculating the average, the full value of the points won is applied for events within the previous months. Thereafter, the points value is reduced by 1/92nd each week.

If a player takes a week off, his average points will usually drop due to the above reduction being applied. An exception can occur if the player had played 52 or fewer tournaments in the previous two years and one of those events was exactly two years ago. In that case, the reduction in the divisor might outweigh the reduction in total points, thereby giving a higher average.

In general, if a player's average points value drops from one week to the next, he is more likely to move down in the table than move up. However, this will depend on how the players close to him in the rankings did during the week in question and the player could move up in the rankings if players close by lose more points than he loses in a particular week.

Players winning tournaments or finishing in high positions, particularly in events with a high ranking value, will generally leap several places in the table and this will also contribute to any drop in ranking position for the players he passes.

Bet you're sorry you asked now.;)

abff · 07-09-2014 1:34pm

Ouch! Just had a double bogey at the 11th.

slave1 · 07-09-2014 3:46pm

Disappointing level par round, even a two under would have got a top 10 finish...

benny79 · 08-09-2014 10:56am

Here did he finished missed yesterdays coverage?

PARlance · 08-09-2014 11:06am

benny79 wrote: »

Here did he finished missed yesterdays coverage?

T13 in the end.

vienne86 · 08-09-2014 9:48pm

Dropped one place in the world rankings to 62nd.

abff · 17-09-2014 11:40am

I see that Shane has qualified to play in the Volvo World Match Play at Wentworth in October. I'll be in Portugal the previous week and hoping to see him challenge for the Portugal Masters.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2014/tournamentid=2014082/news/newsid=235809.html

Speak Now · 17-09-2014 12:27pm

abff wrote: »

I see that Shane has qualified to play in the Volvo World Match Play at Wentworth in October. I'll be in Portugal the previous week and hoping to see him challenge for the Portugal Masters.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2014/tournamentid=2014082/news/newsid=235809.html

Nice money even for showing up and guaranteed ranking points as well with only 16 players!

Winner €650,000

Runner Up €330,000

3rd €210,000

4th €160,000

Losing quarter-finalists €100,000

Third in group €75,000

Last in group €50,000