Music Question:

CaoimH_in

Would the department ever get around to making a better course for us in 1st year BA!?

Secondly...

I did an assignment on 1st and 2nd inversions, I fluked it, but can someone tell me a step by step kinda set way to identify whether something is in 1st 2nd or 3rd inversion?

Example

Key: Bflat Maj.

Treble:F
D
Bass: B
F

I would say, thats the chord of Ia, but I know i'm wrong.

Any help?

Kev

rcaz

Well it is I, 'cause it's Bb-D-F, but since F (the fifth) is the in the bass, it's second inversion, so it's Ic.

a = root in bass
b = third in bass
c = fifth in bass
d = dominant seventh in bass

Hope that helps some

Rory

banquo

Root inversion = when the root of the chord is in the bass.
1st inversion = 3rd of chord in bass
2nd inversion = 5th of chord in bass.

*A 2nd inversion will usually only appear in the last or 2nd last bar.

To identify it, look at all the notes playing on that beat. Arrange them so it's note+3rd+3rd (I.E Bb + up a 3rd = D; + up a 3rd from D = F) and you've got your chord.

Then see which of the notes is in the bass. Bb means root position, D means 1st inversion, and F means 2nd inversion.

Is that clear enough? If not say so and I'll find another way of explaining it! there's no shortcuts though, just practise.

CaoimH_in

El Pr0n wrote: »

Well it is I, 'cause it's Bb-D-F, but since F (the fifth) is the in the bass, it's second inversion, so it's Ic.

a = root in bass
b = third in bass
c = fifth in bass
d = dominant seventh in bass

Hope that helps some

Rory

ITS THAT SIMPLE?!?!?! FOR GODS SAKE!!!

..fecking Rory...

Thanks rob!

irish_goat

CaoimH_in wrote: »

Would the department ever get around to making a better course for us in 1st year BA!?

If it ain't baroque, don't fix it!



*gets coat*

banquo

irish_goat wrote: »

If it ain't baroque, don't fix it!

*gets coat*

Murder...

Thwip!

banquo wrote: »

Murder...

*fails to resist temptation

you just changed the tone of this conversation;)

banquo

All will die.

Norrdeth

Górecki someone else's head.....

banquo

That's a new one at least

Thwip!

fine fine i take mine Bach.....if only i could get a Handel on the situation;)...sigh too busy with my christmas Chopin lizst i guess

funky penguin

Norrdeth wrote: »

Górecki someone else's head.....

THIEF!!!!

In other news, this endless Liszt of puns is making me sick.

funky penguin

Btw OP, if you're unhappy with teh course, do mention it to your rep and they'll bring it up at teh next committee meeting.

Norrdeth

Sowie Seán couldn't help myself!

I'm Bach Monday week, can't wait!!

rcaz

I don't think irish_goat meant to start a big pun-off... He was only Messiaen...

banquo

/torches computer

rcaz

So how hard is a 1st year Music History listening exam? I'm not very familiar with a lot of the examinable works yet, the exam is on Monday...

banquo

Not that hard Just learn to recognise each piece, the name, period and feature about it. Eg Mozart, piano concerto, 18thC, use of *******.

rcaz

banquo wrote: »

Mozart, piano concerto, 18thC, use of *******.

Nice

Thanks banquo!

banquo

I live to give.

Though it would appear from my posts on the Internet at nearly 4am on a Friday that I have no life at all

CaoimH_in

El Pr0n wrote: »

I don't think irish_goat meant to start a big pun-off... He was only Messiaen...

Rory your a robbing bastard...

..good job... i would've done it too