€10k, Turbo Diesel, what would you buy?

dragonbet

Biro wrote: »

Except for the fact that the Golf looks horrible, is two a penny, the Mk 4 has dire handling, it has an engine similar in decibel levels as a 135 (you sound like a farmer so I assume you'll know what I'm talking about!), and has less power than the Alfa.
Anyone who thinks a Mk4 Golf looks better than a designer car is the kind of person who thinks Biddy is better looking than Rihanna.

I'll take it then your one of the 50+ generation chasing your youth with a Alfa that looks like the front of an armadillo..! And the only reason you probably still own one is due to the horrible trade in value you were offered for it........ thats if ya can find a dealer!!

That being said, the Golf is common, even the GTTDi, if your after looks, performance and class I'd go with the E220 CDi Merc mentioned earlier or a Audi A6, the A4 is too common also.

R.O.R

dragonbet wrote: »

I'll take it then your one of the 50+ generation chasing your youth with a Alfa that looks like the front of an armadillo..! And the only reason you probably still own one is due to the horrible trade in value you were offered for it........ thats if ya can find a dealer!!

That being said, the Golf is common, even the GTTDi, if your after looks, performance and class I'd go with the E220 CDi Merc mentioned earlier or a Audi A6, the A4 is too common also.

That's your idea of performance?

dragonbet

R.O.R wrote: »

That's your idea of performance?

Well you sacrifice a little performance with the looks in relation to the merc, but its a better buy than the same class of BMW and there aint much to chose from under 2litre thats reasonably economical too...! Whats your suggestion?

R.O.R

dragonbet wrote: »

Whats your suggestion?

He keeps the 'teg and rents closer to where he's working.

VolvoMan

argosy2006 wrote: »

i'v never had a car like that lol, i drive a volvo s90, i havent past another yet lol

Cool car. They basically are a Volvo 960 in all but name and a few subtle differences.

What year is it by the way, and is she original Irish?

Biro

dragonbet wrote: »

I'll take it then your one of the 50+ generation chasing your youth with a Alfa that looks like the front of an armadillo..! And the only reason you probably still own one is due to the horrible trade in value you were offered for it........ thats if ya can find a dealer!!

That being said, the Golf is common, even the GTTDi, if your after looks, performance and class I'd go with the E220 CDi Merc mentioned earlier or a Audi A6, the A4 is too common also.

You take it wrong! I still have my youth, and my eyesight too, which it seems not everyone in this thread have! Even if I didn't have my youth, I'd rather "chase" it in an Alfa than a Golf! At least I'd get closer to it with the Alfa! Did my farmer comment cut too close for you? Don't worry, Biddy is a lovely woman I'm sure! And sure she makes a great cuppa tea!

Biro

dragonbet wrote: »

its a better buy than the same class of BMW

Depends on what you're after really.

EPM

dragonbet wrote: »

Well you sacrifice a little performance with the looks in relation to the merc, but its a better buy than the same class of BMW

Especially if you get off on visiting your auto electrician and have a rust fetish

DaireMac

HashSlinging wrote: »

God so much generisation bazz. Where did you get that idea that Volkswagen,
AUDI, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, SEAT, Škoda, Volkswagen Vans, Scania and 49.9% of Porsche were unreliable.

They just bought suzuki as well "world domination".

ps. me is a he bazz, we have a vw, skoda and a GT in our house and I can tell ya the Alfa is nicest by far but if I have to get somewhere important we don't take it been late toooo many times!!! great for the Sunday drive tho.

Atomic Pineapple

Any other ideas lads,

Something like the Alfa GT, alternatives in diesel to that?

Turbo diesel but sporty and with a decent bit of power and good enough handling

EPM

Late 406 coupe 2.2 diesel from UK?

Atomic Pineapple

EPM wrote: »

Late 406 coupe 2.2 diesel from UK?

Had a look at them alright, but not a big fan of them

Atomic Pineapple

What are these yokes like?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Opel/Astra/1.8-CDTI/200941195458598/advert?channel=CARS

Tragedy

It's the 100PS 1.7 CDTi. Can be remapped to 130 easily enough, and apparently nice and torquey. Like most diesels, don't expect to be first away from traffic lights though.

R.O.R

draffodx wrote: »

What are these yokes like?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Opel/Astra/1.8-CDTI/200941195458598/advert?channel=CARS

Feel a bit cramped inside for my liking, but not so different from a GT in that respect.

Bit of lag on take off from the engine, but pretty decent once you get going.

That's a nice looking one in the link and seems to have a fair bit of kit. I've never had a coupe for a decent length of time, but had an SRi hatch (petrol) for a weekend in the UK last year and was fairly impressed. Doesn't handle quite as well as a Focus, but it wasn't as far off as I expected.

Are they leather seats that aren't mentioned in the write up?

Definately worth a look I'd say.

NiSmO

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Mr Benevolent

NiSmO wrote: »

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€10,000 (ex VRT) for an '02 feckin' GOLF TDI? Jesus. I'd rather eat yellow snow.

Graham_B18C

Confab wrote: »

€10,000 (ex VRT) for an '02 feckin' GOLF TDI? Jesus. I'd rather eat yellow snow.

Exactly what I was thinking, just too hung over to write it!!!

biggus

A bit more than 10k and you might get an 08 Pro_Ceed Diesel

138 bhp tax band A 5years warranty left, as goood or better than a red TDI golf

Graham_B18C

biggus wrote: »

A bit more than 10k and you might get an 08 Pro_Ceed Diesel

138 bhp tax band A 5years warranty left, as goood or better than a red TDI golf

I've heard extremely good things about the 1.6 Diesel Pro Ceeds, look great too IMO

Atomic Pineapple

Severely limited choice with my budget when it comes to the Pro_Ceed though

biggus

Ok no Proceed , but you could haggle 5 dr Ceed for a bit above your budget In Ireland.... quick yokes

OR
7000 sterling 07 1.6 diesel plus 1945 VRT
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200950347985015/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/kia/model/ceed/fuel-type/diesel/page/1/radius/1500/postcode/bt126lr?previous=/search/results/usedcars/postcode/bt126lr/radius/1500/make/kia/model/ceed/fuel-type/diesel/page/1/sort/priceasc&anchor=advert200950347985015&logcode=p

or

richardsheil

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Tigger

richardsheil wrote: »

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5 years old with the high tax, so it'll depriciate fast, basically 100.000 miles so it'll be worth nothing in 2 years and and finally thats not the only car he's selling

i think he probably imported that to sell

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:uVrI35PsfwEJ:octane.ie/ads/car.php%3Fid%3D5092+0876569928&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie

8 grand max imho

Graham_B18C

Tigger wrote: »

5 years old with the high tax, so it'll depriciate fast, basically 100.000 miles so it'll be worth nothing in 2 years and and finally thats not the only car he's selling

i think he probably imported that to sell

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:uVrI35PsfwEJ:octane.ie/ads/car.php%3Fid%3D5092+0876569928&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie

8 grand max imho

He's looking for a reliable, economical diesel, not an unreliable Petrol Alfa

Tigger

Grahamo999 wrote: »

He's looking for a reliable, economical diesel, not an unreliable Petrol Alfa

slowly. the guy selling the accord is also selling the alfa

nice to know these things

Graham_B18C

Tigger wrote: »

slowly. the guy selling the accord is also selling the alfa

nice to know these things

Ah my bad!

Tigger

Grahamo999 wrote: »

Ah my bad!

is ok find me a nice dc2 type r for the new year and i'll forgive you

Graham_B18C

Tigger wrote: »

is ok find me a nice dc2 type r for the new year and i'll forgive you

There's a lovely one out in my drive!

Tigger

are you selling it or just boasting?

Graham_B18C

Tigger wrote: »

are you selling it or just boasting?

Just braggin i suppose! There's a red one for sale on adverts at the moment, its the OPs car, I test drove it back when I bought mine, nice car, well looked after and a higher power figure than mine on the rollers

Tigger

i'll be looking in early feb depends on a few things

anyway back on topic
bmw330d real world 50mpg or very fast
nice to drive as well

gear box has been known to fall outa tghem and beemers are dear to service but they pull like a train

http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/41/48655041.html

richardsheil

Tigger wrote: »

slowly. the guy selling the accord is also selling the alfa

nice to know these things

Not true.

I sold the Alfa which I had for 3 years and 40,000 miles before I bought the Accord- which I have had since September. Just putting my toe in the water. Only problem with the Accord is its inherent dullness.

Nice to know you are all so observant.

And if you think an 05 Accord with 97000 miles is worn out. Well I suggest you should take a look at it and then decide.

dilligaf73

I know this will sound wrong but...I recently bought an 05 Skoda Octavia 1.9TDi when i lost my job and it will do most of things I want it to. While not "fast" I don't have any issues overtaking , pulls well. It handle well. Had a rally co-driver dude swinging out of the jesus handle yesterday... always get 1000km to my €50 and if driven right gives up to 1300km. And can be chipped to give 130bhp no bodder.

seclachi

Diesel Avensis here, its not flash, but they are well regarded and pretty fuel efficient, 50 mpg seems to be no bother on the motorway. One thing to watch out for is that the 03-06 model seems very sluggish below 2k RPM (once it gets above it though, woohoo !), test drive it before you buy to make sure you can live with it.

Sqaull20

I have a Fabia Vrs and while its not a hot hatch or anything like some make out.But for what is ( quick, economical car ) its to hard to find better.

For around 5k or so there is no way to find a car which looks as good ( looks thrifty imo ), is as practical, is as reliable, is as economical, is as comfortable or packs the same sort of performance imo. Its a jack of all trades.You can achieve an average 60mpg if you drive sensibly, however, under normal conditions you will get around 50mpg.On long journeys its very comfortable ( I was shocked with that part too ) and with a remap ( average tends to be 170bhp and nearly 300lb/ft of torque ) it can keep up with alot of things in a straight line.Overtaking is a breeze in it, never have to change gear as power/torque is always there.Its rare as well here, would be money well spent imo, better than going the every second car avensis route anyway.

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200948196004915

http://www.fabia-vrs.com/downloads/files/diesel_car_188_fabia_vrs.pdf

Atomic Pineapple

Ok heres the cars currently on my to see list:

Alfa Romeo GT JTD

Skoda Fabia Vrs

BMW 330D

Any opinions on them or any more alternative options?

ninty9er

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S60/D5-Geart/200825189133459/advert?channel=CARS

Redsoxfan

draffodx wrote: »

Ok heres the cars currently on my to see list:

Alfa Romeo GT JTD

That's a very nice example, and well spec'd considering it's on Irish plates (it has 17" wheels, leather, the BOSE sound system, pdc). Nice colour inside and out. Definitely worth going to see.

Tigger

richardsheil wrote: »

Not true.

I sold the Alfa which I had for 3 years and 40,000 miles before I bought the Accord- which I have had since September. Just putting my toe in the water. Only problem with the Accord is its inherent dullness.

Nice to know you are all so observant.

And if you think an 05 Accord with 97000 miles is worn out. Well I suggest you should take a look at it and then decide.

i don't but many people do i was being ironic condition of a car is not denoted by milage

Atomic Pineapple

Bumping this back up as I'm gonna start looking at a few cars now.

So far my list of cars to look at is:

Alfa Romeo Gt

And well, thats it at the minute.

So I've decided to change my criteria a little as I've moved closer to work so no need to definately go for a diesel although I still would like a car that has decent mpg (35+).

So heres a new criteria to see if it throws anything up:

engine size up to 2.2
petrol or diesel (35/40mpg+)
2/3 door coupe stlye as a preference
€10k to spend

I never really looked at BMW's before but would I get a nice one that fits what I want with my budget? which variant would suit me best?

What about other petrol cars that would have decent mpg but still fit what I want?

PaulKK

I got a Nov 04 BMW 320d at the weekend with 65k on it for 9.5k, I'd say you could too. The earlier 320ds had a few problems with turbos and swirl flaps but from doing some research the mid 04 onwards are a lot better with a modified manifold etc.

Have it a few days now and cant fault it its great, just going to get the upgraded turbo filter if its not done already and should have no problems!

cadaliac

PaulKK wrote: »

I got a Nov 04 BMW 320d at the weekend with 65k on it for 9.5k, I'd say you could too. The earlier 320ds had a few problems with turbos and swirl flaps but from doing some research the mid 04 onwards are a lot better with a modified manifold etc.

Have it a few days now and cant fault it its great, just going to get the upgraded turbo filter if its not done already and should have no problems!

I think this is key. For the longivity of the turbo at least. All the bad press about the BMW diesels stems from this issue with the Turbo not being looked after correctly - Main Dealer or not, the owner will have to spend a bit to keep it right.

PaulKK

cadaliac wrote: »

I think this is key. For the longivity of the turbo at least. All the bad press about the BMW diesels stems from this issue with the Turbo not being looked after correctly - Main Dealer or not, the owner will have to spend a bit to keep it right.

It seems to be to me anyway, that and more regular oil changes. I am always an advocate of maintaining a car well and servicing well ahead of time and I just cant see how people expect the turbo to last at 20k mile service intervals.

Mine was done every 15k up to 45k miles and then every 5k after that, so fingers crossed.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

I've had 2 BMW 320d's. 02 Great car but turbo went. 04 Great car full stop. This car will always sell on because of the badge. Beware of clocked ones though. I've driven one with a 165,000 miles on the clock and it was perfect. Anybody would be easily fooled that it had done 80K. Service history is Key so don't be afraid of high mileage examples.

Atomic Pineapple

So say something like this?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/NEW-MODE/201003196622085/advert?channel=CARS

tinner777

bit confused reading the thread lads, what exactly is diesel mileage for a car? Would it be worth my time changing from petrol to diesel for a 70 mile round trip 7 days a week?
sorry for throwing this in here, mods delete if you want and i could start a new thread

Redsoxfan

draffodx wrote: »

So say something like this?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/NEW-MODE/201003196622085/advert?channel=CARS

That's an overpriced petrol saloon

Atomic Pineapple

Redsoxfan wrote: »

That's an overpriced petrol saloon

True,



Well a 2 door version of that for less?

Redsoxfan

You'd get the older 320d coupe within your budget I'd say (and petrol versions as well) -not sure if you would swing the newer version for €10k.