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Power Supply Unit's (PSU's)
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08-12-2009 1:34pmI have noticed an awful lot of questions (which is common across all tech boards) on PSU recommendations.
I'd like (if I may) to post a post I had originally posted some time ago on another site which I had taken information from various sources in relation to PSU's & recommendations.
This is quite an extensive list (but may not include every supply, so if yours isn't there, don't worry!), and I do need to update it, but it should at least give forum members idea's in relation to the best brands and ranges that your hard earned money can buy in relation to PSU's.
Hopefully the mods don't kill me for posting an extensive list of recommendations! And hopefully it will be of help to members
My original post can be found here:
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/66076/
But I shall copy the info here, so as not to attract users to another site for no reason.
I have given credit & links to other sites which I have used to compile this information, and I would encourage users to visit their sites also.0
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*taken from jonnyguru's site, many thanks to him for the hard work.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103
If anyone has any questions, please go to JonnyGuru's forums linked to herein. He did the work, so he and other experienced members there can answer your questions.
Please visit his site for the most up-to-date lists.
High end PSU recommendations
Recommendations are made on a model by model or product line by product line basis since many companies make such a wide range of product, it is difficult to say things like "Brand X excellent PSU's" or "Brand Y sucks."
FYI: The power supplies listed are in no particular order within each tier.
Tier 1:
PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool product line
Built like a server PSU, but with the home user also in mind
Zero ripple
Louder than a leaf blower
1kW is SLI certified
1kW is Crossfire certified
850W is SLI certified
5 year warranty
Etasis Gaming Power product line
Server grade
Fairly quiet for PSU's with 80MM fans
ET-750 and ET-850 are both SLI certified
3 year warranty
Silverstone Zeus and Nightjar product line
Based on Etasis units, a company known for server grade PSU's
Not very loud, even when outfitted with 80MM fans.
Often sleeved cables, etc. Geared more towards the enthusiast than other server grade PSU's.
ST85ZF is Crossfire certified
ST75ZF is SLI certified
ST56ZF is SLI certified
3 year warranty
Zippy GSM and PSL product line
Typically server power supplies and can be loud
PSL model has 40MM fan which has a high pitched sound when running
There is a "gaming" product line that offers all of the necessary connectors for almost any high end gaming rig, a nicer finish and has a much quieter fan than the server models.
Crossfire certified
PSL-6850P(G1) is SLI certified
3 year warranty
Tier 2:
Enermax Galaxy product lineLots of power
Semi-Modular
Very quiet
Very efficient
Crossfire certified
SLI certified
3 year warranty
Enermax Infiniti product line
Semi-Modular
Very quiet
Very efficient
Crossfire certified
SLI certified
80 Plus certified
3 year warranty
Andyson's server line (recognized by dual 80MM fans) and high-efficiency line (recognized by single 130MM fan.)
Extremely affordable
Solid performance and quality components
High efficiency models are 84% typical and very quiet
Not commonly found in U.S. or E.U.
End user warranty unknown
Hiper Type-M 670 and 730W and Type-R 730W
Based on server grade Andyson AD-800 units
3 year warranty
Ultra X-Finity and X-Pro 800W
Based on server grade Andyson AD-800 units
3 year warranty/Lifetime with product registration
Ultra X3 800W & 1000W
Based on Andyson AD-800
Quiet and efficient
Cooled w/ 135MM fan
3 year warranty/Lifetime with product registration
Silverstone Olympia OP1000
Uses SevenTeam 1kW server platform
Very stable power
80A continuous power on a single 12V rail
Single, rear mounted 80MM fan can be loud
SLI certified
3 year warranty
Thermaltake Toughpower 1000W & 1200W product line
Built by CWT, but without all of the Fuhjyyu capacitors
Capable of outputing nearly 100% of it's capability on the +12V rail
Very efficient
Cooled w/ 140MM fan
Modular
5 year warranty
Tier 3:
Silverstone Olympia OP650, OP750 & OP850 and Decathalon DA650, DA750 & DA850
Design by Impervio Electronics Co.
Built in Taiwan
Quiet and efficient
Antec True Power Quattro product lines
Built by Enhance
Very good voltage regulation
Very efficient at loads > 20%
Very quiet, despite the 80MM fan solution
Modular
Fully sleeved cables
Crossfire certified
3 year warranty
Cooler Master Real Power Pro 1000W
Built by Enhance
Very good voltage regulation
Very efficient
Very quiet
Fully sleeved cables
SLI certified
5 year warranty
Seasonic S12 and M12 product linesVery good voltage regulation
Very efficient
Very quiet
M12 series is modular
Crossfire certified
S12 650W is SLI certified
3 year warranty
Corsair product line
Based on Seasonic or Channel Well platforms
Very efficient
Very quiet
All high-temp rated Japanese caps
HX620W is SLI certified
5 year warranty
PC Power and Cooling Silencer product line
Based on same platform and component quality as Seasonic S/M12
750W is SLI certified
3 year warranty
Coolmax Greenpower product line
Based on ATNG server platform
A little on the loud side
Crossfire certified
3 year warranty
SevenTeam SSI EPS 12V 2.91 Series and "Fanless" product lines
Strong regulation
Efficient and quiet, despite being based on a server platform
Good price, but rarely available in the U.S.
2 year warranty
MGE/XG Duro and Magnum
Based on SevenTeam's higher end units
Lifetime Warranty
Tier 4:
Enhance products up to 750W
Efficient and quiet
Very affordable
Often does not come with sleeved cables
Only 1 year warranty
Silverstone Element product line and Strider ST60F and ST75F product
Based on Enhance's higher end products
3 year warranty on PSU's > 500W. All others are only 1 year warranty
Xclio Stablepower product line
Based on Enhance's ENP 850W and 1000W products
Cooled by quieter 140MM fan (as opposed to pair of 80's)
2 year warranty
Antec Trio/NeoHE/EarthWatts product line
Built by Seasonic, but not the same build quality as above Seasonics
NeoHE is modular
Trio 650W is SLI certified
NeoHE 550W is Crossfire certified
5 year warranty
FSP Epsilon product line
Compact size
Fairly efficient and quiet
Notable ripple issue
Inexpensive
Crossfire certified
700W is SLI certified
OCZ GameXstrem product line
Based on FSP Epsilon mentioned above
3 year warranty
AOpen AO700-ALN
Based on FSP Epsilon mentioned above
Only 1 year warranty
Thermaltake Toughpower < 1000W product line
Built by CWT, but without all of the Fuhjyyu capacitors
550W is Crossfire certified
600W, 700W and 750W are Crossfire certified and SLI certified
750W is modular
5 year warranty
Xclio GreatPower product line
Supposedly same construction as Toughpower (??? need confirmation)
650W, 700W and 750W are SLI certified
2 year warranty
Enermax Liberty 620W
Excellent voltage regulation
Modular
Very quiet
Crossfire certified
Only 1 year warranty
Bumped down to tier 4 due to a number of reports of failure in the line of duty
And before you nimrods start whining about why your beloved OCZ only made tier 4... this is four tiers of HIGH END products. If the product isn't even on the list, it could be that I either don't know about it or it's not considered high end. So if your PSU is actually in teir 4, grab your e-Peen and know that you at least made the worst of the best.
Of course, there's always more to be added later.....
And, before you ask, there's not enough data about the 1000W or 1010W FSP built units for me to make a judgement call so don't ask. Unlike some sites, I don't go "oh goody! Silverstone has a new PSU!!! Let's make it tier 1" without actually testing it. Sorry.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1030 -
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1460
High efficiency, suitable for SLI/Crossfire:
Antec EarthWatts 500W
Seasonic OEM
Claims to have two +12V rails, but actually only has one (34A)
Suitable for SLI and Crossfire (not necessarily G80 or R600 and up)
Antec True Power Trio 550W
Seasonic OEM
Claims to have three +12V rails, but actually only has one (42A)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Antec True Power Trio 650W
Seasonic OEM
Claims to have three +12V rails, but actually only has one (52A)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Corsair HX520W
Modular
Seasonic OEM
Claims to have three +12V rails, but actually only has one (40A)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Corsair HX620W
Modular
Seasonic OEM
Claims to have three +12V rails, but actually only has one (50A)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Seasonic M12 500W
Modular
Claims to have four +12V rails, but actually only has one (38A)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Seasonic S12 650W
Has four +12V rails (52A combined)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Cooler Master iGreen RS-600-ASAA
Acbel Polytech OEM
Three +12V rails (38A combined)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Ultra X-Pro 600W
Andyson OEM
Single +12V rail (36A)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Tagan TG600-U25
Topower OEM
Four +12V rails (48A combined)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Tagan TG600-U35
Topower OEM
Same as "U25" version, but with 135MM cooling fan
Four +12V rails (48A combined)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Silverstone Olympia OP650
Single +12V rail (54A)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Silverstone Olympia OP750
Single +12V rail (60A)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
Zalman ZM600-HP
FSP OEM
Four +12V rails (42A combined)
Suitable for lower end SLI and Crossfire
High efficiency, but not recommended for higher end SLI/Crossfire due to 240VA limited rails:
Seasonic S12-600
Supposedly has two +12V rails (18A each, 36A combined)
Suitable for ANY single video card
Not recommended for SLI until someone can confirm that the two +12V rails is actually just one.
Enhance ENP-5150GH
Has two +12V rails (18A each, 36A combined)
Suitable for ANY single video card
SilverStone Element ST50EF-Plus
Enhance OEM
Has two +12V rails (18A each, 36A combined)
Suitable for ANY single video card
Cooler Master iGreen RS-500-ASAA
Acbel Polytech OEM
Has three +12V rails (6A, 13A, 14A, 33A combined)
Suitable for ANY single video card
Suggestions welcome!
Criteria:
At least 30A on the combined +12V rail
Confirmed 80% and better efficiency
For SLI/Crossfire recommendation, needs to have at least 34A on the combined +12V rail and have either just one +12V rail or three or more0 -
Further reading:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108088
Many thanks to Perkam of Xtremesystems for the list.
This should give you a quick reference of what to buy, and what not to buy. Some more units than listed above, but most info taken from JonnyGuru.
WHICH ONES TO BUY ??
Tier 1 can handle 4Ghz Conroe or 3Ghz AMD along with Oced Quad Crossfire/SLI With Ease.
Tier Z offers quality and power unequalled in its wattage range and is second only to other Zippy units.
Tier 2 offers almost as much power and stability as Tier 1 at Comparable Wattage levels with lower price/better availability.
Tier T offers the high quality components of Tier 2 with slightly less Rail stability due to Topower internals.
Tier 3 is ONLY Recommended if Price difference is present between Tier 3 and Tier 2 or due to availability issues with Tier 1/2 PSUs.
Tier 4 is recommended for stock or low power systems if Tier 3's are more expensive or are not available.
Tier 5 are NOT RECOMMENDED, but some brands have high/medium quality components in Tiers 2 through 4.
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Tier 1 Brands - The Most Powerful And Stable Components On The Market
Enermax Galaxy
PCP&C TurboCool
PCP&C Silencer >610
Zippy/Emacs SSL
Zippy/Emacs GSM
Zippy/Emacs PSL
Silverstone ZF (Etasis 85/75/56)
Seventeam ST >600 (SSI, V2.91)
Silverstone OP/DA >700W
Tier Z - Less Powerful Than Tier 1 Zippy Units...but they're still Zippys
Zippy/Emacs HG2
Zippy/Emacs HP2
Tier 2 Brands - Top Quality components With Top Notch Stability - For Those With Price/Availability Issues With Tier 1
Antec Neo HE
Akasa PowerGreen 80+
CoolMax CTG-750W/850W/1KW
Cooltek CT
Corsair HX
Enermax Liberty
Enermax Infiniti
Enhance ENP-GH
Fortron (FSP) GLN
Hiper Type-M >650W
Hiper Type-R >650W
iStarUSA PD2
iStarUSA PD3
OCZ GameXStream
OCZ EvoStream
PCP&C Silencer <610
Seasonic S12
Seasonic M12
Seasonic Energy Plus
SevenTeam ST <600
Silverstone EF
Silverstone OP/DA <700W
Supermicro/AbleCom
Thermaltake Toughpower >600W
Xclio GreatPower
Zalman ZM
Ultra X3
Ultra X-Pro
Tier T - High Quality PSUs Made With Topower Internals - Less Rail Stability Compared To Tier 2 But Still Better than Tier 3
Mushkin Enhanced
Tagan U95
Tagan U25
Tagan U15
Tagan U22
OCZ PowerStream
Tier 3 Brands - High Quality and Stability, Second Only To Tier 2 Brands
Acbel Polycom
AMS Mercury
Akasa PaxPower
Akasa PowerPlus (>500W Models)
Antec Phantom
Antec TruePower III
Antec True Power II
Antec True Control II
Antec Neopower 480W (Old Model)
Antec Smart Power 2.0
Athena Power Space Shuttle Series
Be Quiet Dark Power Pro
Channel Well
Enermax Maximum Plus
Enermax Noistaker II
Enermax Noisetaker
Enermax Whisper II
Enermax CoolerGiant
Enhance ENS-G
Epower Xscale
Fortron (FSP) GLC
Fortron (FSP) THN
Fortron AX
Fortron HLN
Fortron PFN/PN/PA
Seasonic Super Versatile
Silverstone F
Sparkle FSP
Spire Rocketeer V/VI
Sunbeam Nuuo
Thermaltake Purepower
Thermaltake Toughpower <600W
Tier 4 - Not Recommend With Tier 3 In same Price/Wattage Range
Aerocool
Asus Atlas
BFG
Coolermaster Real Power
Coolermaster iGreen
Delta
Enlight
E-Power
Futurepower
Hiper
HIPRO
Lite-On
Masscool
MGE XG
Mushkin HP
NorthQ 4775-500S/BU
OCZ Modstream
Scythe Kamariki
Sintek
Thermaltake TR2
TTGI/Superflower
Ultra Xfinity/X2
Tier 5 - Other than the units listed above for any of these brands, NOT RECOMMENDED
A-TOP Technology
APEX (SUPERCASE/ALLIED)
Aspire(Turbo Case)
ATADC
Athena Power
ATRIX
Broadway Com Corp
Cooler Master
Coolmax
Deer
Diablotek
Dynapower USA
EagleTech
FOXCONN
I-Star Computer Co. Ltd
In Win
JPAC COMPUTER
Just PC
Kingwin Inc.
Linkworld Electronics
Logisys Computer
MGE
MSI
NMEDIAPC
Norwood Micro/ CompUSA
NorthQ
NZXT
Powmax
Q-Tec
Raidmax
Rosewill
SFC
Shuttle
Skyhawk
Spire Coolers
Star Micro
STARTECH
TOPOWER TOP
Ultra X-Connect
Wintech
XClio
XION
YoungYear
Zebronics
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Only two things wrong I can see.
One is the omition of the Corsair TX series. Yeah, they are nor modular, but damn good power supplies, if not as good as the HX because of their multi rail format. Should be under Teir T at least.
Also it is perfectly acceptable to say Seasonic make good PSUs. Even jonnyguru says so :PIn looking at the low load test results, I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't have put a big red warning logo above it to warn you to sit down first. I heard crashing noises - I hope you guys are ok. Personally, I was already sitting down when I did the math for this table, else I'd be in the hospital right now. There just isn't room for a six and a half foot tall guy to fall safely in this room and not take serious injury.Avert your eyes! The above shots are too awesome for human eyesight to tolerate! Yes, folks, this here Seasonic platform has decided to out-awesome just about everything I've tested to date.0 -
Hi Leman_Russ - I believe the statement was made in order to not let people assume that any PSU manufacturer is always 'good' or always 'bad'.
Yes, Seasonic units are generally extremely well performing units. And I have in fact, never heard of anybody complain of one, or have to return one.
Seasonic was probably a bad example to use! (I shall edit lol)
IN relation to the Corsair TX units, they are not modular - I wouldn't hold that against them though! But the list does not intend to include every range of PSU for sale, as I'd be here all day updating it! But I do indeed intend to update the list, to try keep it as contemporary as is possible.
I'll see if I can get some more info on the TX units, and update the list accordingly.0 -
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Nearly all posters on this forum looking for advice firstly, don't have a clue about anything to do with what kind of wattage their pc might need.
Generalising what certain psu's can be used for such as "suitable for xfire/sli" is dangerous and really IMO the best advice for anyone in the market for a new psu is "op specific"(if you know what i mean).
Is this just supposed to be a big page for referencing?0 -
Nearly all posters on this forum looking for advice firstly, don't have a clue about anything to do with what kind of wattage their pc might need.
Generalising what certain psu's can be used for such as "suitable for xfire/sli" is dangerous and really IMO the best advice for anyone in the market for a new psu is "op specific"(if you know what i mean).
Is this just supposed to be a big page for referencing?
For a start, the posts references the PSU certification, if you actually look under each model you would see that.
If someone comes looking for a PSU, at the very least the list provides recommended models and manufacturers.
PSU can indeed be generalised, contrary to your post. They all do the exact same thing - provide power to your PC. However, if you're looking to power 2xHD5890's in Crossfire, I think you'd already know that a 500W unit is not going to suffice.
It would be impossible to provide a list and post exactly what spec system each PSU would be suitable for - so please get off your high horse and stop being so pedantic.
There is nothing dangerous about this thread lol
For instance, if someone posts looking for advice on a PSU, they could be informed that a 650W PSU will suffice, and they could then reference this thread for a few recommended models in that range, and pick one that they can purchase locally / online etc
Obviously, not all of these PSU's are going to be available everywhere.0 -
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I think in general the opposite is the main problem though. ie. 'I have ordered a HD4670 and an AMD 550 BE X2, Is this Antec 1200W psu enough?'0 -
marco_polo wrote: »I think in general the opposite is the main problem though. ie. 'I have ordered a HD4670 and an AMD 550 BE X2, Is this Antec 1200W psu enough?'
lol yeah.
Power requirements are so inflated these days its not even funny.
i7 overclocked + 4gb ram + 2 HDD's + HD5870 overclocked etc would probably not break 450W loaded. However, a little extra is always good.
Personally, I'd never really recommend anything below 550W these days - there's no real point. You can get really good units around that wattage for good prices these days.0 -
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Oh God... I'm going to break his likkle heart... guys, think I'll need some help breaking it to him gently...
I'm afraid you've been left out in the cold
For this list has already been told
Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day: Check dates in thread before linking. You don't want to waste years of your life getting together a huge big reference list that's, say, several years old.
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You should really read the first post dude. Seriously.
And exactly how would it be breaking my heart?
Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day 2: Read the thread before making stupid comments.0 -
Dublin_Gunner wrote: »You should really read the first post dude. Seriously.
And exactly how would it be breaking my heart?
Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day 2: Read the thread before making stupid comments.
Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day 3: Picking Fights with SuperMods is not a good Idea.0 -
Leman_Russ wrote: »Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day 3: Picking Fights with SuperMods is not a good Idea.
SuperMod? lol
Does he wear his knickers on the outside?
And in fairness, mod or no mod, nobody should be coming in a attempting to ruin a thread for no good reason.
In fact - this should apply even more-so to mods.
This thread was provided as a reference, and already 2 posters have already tried to ruin for no good reason. Because I'm maybe not known as much on this forum?? Hmm, probably...0 -
Dublin_Gunner wrote: »However, if you're looking to power 2xHD5970's in Crossfire, I think you'd already know that a 500W unit is not going to suffice.Dublin_Gunner wrote: »It would be impossible to provide a list and post exactly what spec system each PSU would be suitable for -Dublin_Gunner wrote: »so please get off your high horse and stop being so pedantic.
I am firmly placed on the ground and the fact is that maybe on more "Tech orientated" forums it is common knowledge that two 5970's in xfire would require a better psu than 500watts, but here that cannot be taken for granted.
A lot of people comment on this forum that it's a better environment for the complete technophob than most other Computer forums on the net. Due to the fact that we presume the op knows nothing about computers.
Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day 4: Kinda funny how you called me pedantic after posting such an in depth article0 -
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I apologise for that first post. I was being irreverent but currently being in a ****ing warzone here ( :mad: ) I ended up posting something that everyone interpreted as an attack; not my intent. My bad
Having said that, I do have issues...Dublin_Gunner wrote: »You should really read the first post dude. Seriously.
I read and re-read the topic. Nothing in there about how old and misleading some bits of it are. Not your fault - the PSU OEMs have changed dramatically since it was made! - but that highlights the issue that it could convince people "Ultra Good, Corsair Bad!" when the very opposite is true and Ultra somehow managed to make roughly one decent PSU before retiring and becoming PITA patent-trolls :rolleyes:And exactly how would it be breaking my heart?
Because it looked impressive - I thought you put some effort into it!Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day 2: Read the thread before making stupid comments.
Ow. That's a bit unfair. And I'm not criticising you or the concept. Its just missing so much relevant, recent, info...Does he wear his knickers on the outside?
HEY! STOP STALKING ME!!1! AND TAKE DOWN THAT GODDAMN WEBCAM!! :eek:And in fairness, mod or no mod, nobody should be coming in a attempting to ruin a thread for no good reason.
But I wasn't intending to, and if I didn't point out the whole "old" bit someone would... I'm hoping you wouldn't react so angrily toward them in that instance (I on the other hand deserved it after that good case of Foot-In-Mouth up there)
This thread was provided as a reference, and already 2 posters have already tried to ruin for no good reason. Because I'm maybe not known as much on this forum?? Hmm, probably...
Absolutely not. Sorry, if there was genuine contempt directed toward a user because they're not a regular contributer I'd step on the antagonist. Hard. The problem is that a good few of the PSUs up there are old, others are server-grade and yet others have poor availability over here, are overpriced, or are considered to be in the wrong tier by even JG. Pricing and availability are wildly different in Europe and there are a lot of noticable absences on the old list due to age.
There was the idea of a new list mooted on JG not so long ago... not sure what came of it0 -
Effluo - in fairness, if a user was savyy enough to install two HD5970's, and even want them in the first place, a certain assuption of knowledge is allowed.Kinda funny how you called me pedantic after posting such an in depth article
Catering for the technophobe is absolutely no problem - I do it on a daily basis in work. If anyone needs to know something, all they have to do is ask
Solitaire - apologies if my retorts were a little on the harsh side
However, I will take a quote from my first post on this thread:I'd like (if I may) to post a post I had originally posted some time ago on another site which I had taken information from various sources in relation to PSU's & recommendations.
This is quite an extensive list (but may not include every supply, so if yours isn't there, don't worry!), and I do need to update it, but it should at least give forum members idea's in relation to the best brands and ranges that your hard earned money can buy in relation to PSU's.0 -
As some of you may have read in the Graphics forum I had my Corsair TX750W psu blow 2 weeks ago after only 18months. I'm in the process of rma'ing it now. It took the mobo out with it as I can't get it to power on with another psu. It was powering a lot, specs in sig with overclock, 5 hds and a good few usb devices, but should have been well able for it. I always thought I was safe buying a Corsair, just goes to show.
At least I got a 7 yr warranty, but it cost fooken €38 to post as it was 2.7kg and now its stuck in Heathrow on the way to Corsair in Holland :mad:0 -
Yeah I think I replied to your thread alright. Thats pretty nasty. The unit obviously did not have OVP, or at least it wasn't working and there was a problem with the unit as soon as it left the factory.
Its recommended on jonnyguru, and I've recommended them myself before.
I think you're just unlucky..0 -
hey hey,
Just wondering you guys seem to be quite knowledgeable in the PSU department. Anyone , heard of this brand? or anything about this?
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=337116
I'm contemplating a i7 rig and this is a nice way to cheapen the whole thing but Im really not up for buying a dodgy power supply. Thanks in advance for anything!0 -
Hi Vergast, no offence intended, but you're a prime example of someone that tries to skimp on the PSU.
Let me put it in perspective, you'll spend 100's or 1,000's on building a new rig, but only €50 on powering it?!
The PSU, in my opinion, is the single most important component of any computer - do NOT skimp, you will be sorry.
Anyway, I don't know what you have in your system component wise, but for around the 600/650W range as you'd selected, I'd recommend these:
Corsair HX 650W €115
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=492649
Coraisr HX 620W €109
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=327672
I obviously only picked ones from Komplett, as you posted a link from there so I'm assuming you're buying all your kit there!
650W good quality PSU should be well powerful enough for a Core i7, 4-8gb ram, single high end vid card type set up.0 -
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^^ exactly, Corsair, Thermaltake, FSP etc. are great brands.
Heres a load of info on what PSU's to avoid and what are good/or cheap decent ones - http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=287485
Again, no offence to the OP, i just mean in general as i see this a lot, but why do people in general think its ok to spend 800 or 900euro on a PC and 30 euro on a PSU?
A lot of folk here will disagree with me, but each to their own, i get the best/largest wattage/volts on the rails/highest effeciency psu that i can get and that will last me for 5 or more years( with a guarantee for 5 years also of course ), saves on my build costs as i only have to replace mobo+cpu+ram rather than the whole lot( i.e. i do the same for the case and screen )0 -
Hi Vergast, no offence intended, but you're a prime example of someone that tries to skimp on the PSU.
Excellent! Thats exactly what i wanted to hear! I originally had a Corsair but I felt I couldnt justify spending so much more until I had a good reason to . Now i do! And no offence taken, I asked for a reason!
Stability is more of an issue for me than overclocking, maybe take the 920 to 3.0Ghz but not much higher. And Im not much of a gamer so my GPU will probably be a single gtx 260 or 275. As such Im thinking the 550W may be more suitable than the 600w I was initially thinking.
https://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=339898
Although as lmimmfn said, would be an investment to go for the higher wattage psu.
PS, anyone know of a nice place to get a gtx 260?? near impossible to find a good one nearby0 -
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Dublin Gunner, the point of what i was saying is that, having words such as "SLI ready" is still not the greatest thing to put on any psu. For the fact which you have acknowledged "that some people just don't know".
And most people on this forum don't know either!
Just like Vergast here!
Also there is nothing wrong with spending 40-50 euro on a psu and for 90% of users that is all they need to spend.
For instance what is wrong with this psu?
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=404885
It certainly would do for Vergasts needs or would come close! It is pointless to spend more unless Vergast has a will to upgrade the gpu or go sli in the future!
Also i'm also confused to why Solitaire had to apologise for his post? Maybe it could have been interpreted as being a little condescending, but anyone who knows Solitaire knows it was not meant to be.
"Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day:" It's a sad day when someone can't incorporate a little bit of humor into their posts just in case someone might take it up the wrong way!
Not to mention while someone labels someone else pedantic because he has a valid point on why he could reconsider a heading and some info on the psu's for the good of the general person who might be looking at his post.0 -
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Dublin Gunner, the point of what i was saying is that, having words such as "SLI ready" is still not the greatest thing to put on any psu. For the fact which you have acknowledged "that some people just don't know".
And most people on this forum don't know either!
Just like Vergast here!
Also there is nothing wrong with spending 40-50 euro on a psu and for 90% of users that is all they need to spend.
For instance what is wrong with this psu?
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=404885
It certainly would do for Vergasts needs or would come close! It is pointless to spend more unless Vergast has a will to upgrade the gpu or go sli in the future!
Also i'm also confused to why Solitaire had to apologise for his post? Maybe it could have been interpreted as being a little condescending, but anyone who knows Solitaire knows it was not meant to be.
"Grim Post-Ironic Tip Of The Day:" It's a sad say when someone can't incorporate a little bit of humor into their posts just in case someone might take it up the wrong way!
Not to mention while someone labels someone else pedantic because he has a valid point on why he could reconsider a heading and some info on the psu's for the good of the general person who might be looking at his post.
It is up to the OP whether to buy now to prevent having to get a psu upgrade whenever he decides to upgrade the gfx card, but gfx card power requirements are going only one way and thats up.
Heres a great chart on gpu power consumption - http://mark.zoomcities.com/images/gfx/GFXpowerchartbybrandgen.png
Unless a psu is one of the generally recommended branded psu's i would highly recommend never ever getting such a psu.Although as lmimmfn said, would be an investment to go for the higher wattage psu.
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@ Effluo : the PSU you linked is good as its a well knowing brand. But Vergast never gave the spec of his computer. And Dublin_Gunner did say in his post that he did not know what Vergast had in his system... but would pick the same wattage area as what Vergast linked in his first post (630watt PSU). So hence why Dublin_Gunner linked a 620watt + 650watt PSU. Im no rocket scientists but i can follow Dublin_Gunner logic here.0
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while thats a decent enough psu, its just going to limit any future upgrades, 30A on the 12v rail is just about cutting it for now for any cpu overclocking + an nvidia 260 or 4870, anything above that will be cutting it very very close.
It is up to the OP whether to buy now to prevent having to get a psu upgrade whenever he decides to upgrade the gfx card, but gfx card power requirements are going only one way and thats up.
Heres a great chart on gpu power consumption - http://mark.zoomcities.com/images/gfx/GFXpowerchartbybrandgen.png
Unless a psu is one of the generally recommended branded psu's i would highly recommend never ever getting such a psu.
if you'd like it as an investment you should say so as it changes recommendations, e.g. ive had 2 psu's in 6-7 years( across 4 PC builds ), and the current one should last another 3, i.e. do you think you'll ever have a dual card solution? even if its an ATI + nvidia combo for physx?
Weren't the more recent nVidia drivers disabling physX where ATI cards were doing the rendering though? They may well have reversed this policy in the meantime, I haven't been following it recently.0 -
marco_polo wrote: »Weren't the more recent nVidia drivers disabling physX where ATI cards were doing the rendering though? They may well have reversed this policy in the meantime, I haven't been following it recently.
The official driver do indeed disable but you don't have to use the official drivers to make said setup work0 -
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Due to a small change in components, gtx 275 instead of 260 and another hard drive I decided to get a 650W PSU. Currently im looking at the Corsair TX or HX, but Im not entirely sure the difference other than the HX is supposidly better. Any one have personal experience with either?0
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Due to a small change in components, gtx 275 instead of 260 and another hard drive I decided to get a 650W PSU. Currently im looking at the Corsair TX or HX, but Im not entirely sure the difference other than the HX is supposidly better. Any one have personal experience with either?
I have the TX 650W myself it a very nice piece of kit IMO, good quality and dead quiet. The closest HX comes in a 620W model and is modular, also it is an improved design* (©Solitare in the other thread). So I am sure there are small efficency gains and other improvements as well.
Get the HX if you want modular cabling but the TX range will not disappoint if budget is a restraint.0
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