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Big engines, quote your MPG here

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    Its interesting to note the comparative inefficiencies of small petrol engines, pushing smaller cars. My old 97 Polo had a 1 litre block and I don't think it did any better than 30MPG. The car was incredibly heavy and the engine was so very small.

    Newer smaller diesels are of course miles ahead, but when it comes to petrol engines, the big blocks aren't really that much off the smaller ones.

    Stop, Dad has a 3.2 4wd volvo, avg about 28mpg. My 1.6 Alfa 147 gets about 29mpg...... not fair :(

    Though to be fair i drive a bit quicker than he does.

    I was always interested to know what the 'optimum' engine size is, for say average driving (30% urban, 70% open roads)

    Take 2 extremes; a 1 litre polo will be struggling on the motorway and being overworked in that regard, while a 6l V12 is wasteful. What would be optimum on say a motorway run. 2.4 or so? Lets just say petrols to keep things consistant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Saab 9-3 2.0 1999 with a gas guzzling 16 MPG, on a good day may reach 17-18 (methinks there may be a hole in the fuel tank :eek:)

    Yer car is broke. Best bring it to a garage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭congo_90


    1990 jag xj6 3.2 with 4 people, luggage, and usual bits on. 26mpg according to trip computer. Thats about as good as at motorway speeds. I think its good for its size!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,747 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Stop, Dad has a 3.2 4wd volvo, avg about 28mpg. My 1.6 Alfa 147 gets about 29mpg...... not fair :(

    Your old man drives his Volvo like an aul fella (does he smoke his pipe and wear his slippers while driving it?). You drive the bejaysis out of your Alfa. I'm actually surprised his MPG isn't much better than yours ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Is anyone else astounded at these figures? I mean, 15-20mpg, christ, might wanna check your towbar lads, could be a few rail carriages attached :eek:

    FYI, I've a 2L TDDI Mondeo that will do 40-45mpg without a fuss, anything less would break my heart tbh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    volvo s90 3.0 automatic
    20 mixed city highway,
    highway 34
    do hho kits work?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,367 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Savman wrote: »
    Is anyone else astounded at these figures? I mean, 15-20mpg, christ, might wanna check your towbar lads, could be a few rail carriages attached :eek:

    FYI, I've a 2L TDDI Mondeo that will do 40-45mpg without a fuss, anything less would break my heart tbh.
    There is a difference between a 4.4L petrol and a 2L tractor in all fairness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭JCDUB


    Loaner I have atm - 89 Merc 300CE - 18MPG:eek:
    Lovely comfy ride though

    Had a 96 520i manual years ago, was only getting 25mpg outta that, fookin dreadful considering it was a 2.0l.
    Car was far too heavy for it, and it was a V6 too, I think??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    do hho kits work?

    No. Don't even bother. I've heard realistic things about water injection just before the throttle butterfly though (carb only, so not very useful). I might try it on an old injected Fiesta though to see if it works with injection at all. Water injection I mean, not HHO!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    Savman wrote: »
    Is anyone else astounded at these figures? I mean, 15-20mpg, christ, might wanna check your towbar lads, could be a few rail carriages attached :eek:

    FYI, I've a 2L TDDI Mondeo that will do 40-45mpg without a fuss, anything less would break my heart tbh.

    Sounds like fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,747 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    I have manage 42-44mpg out of a 2.0 litre petrol in my Porsche 924. But thats motorway driving, normal driving she gets about 30-35mpg.

    Your foot is way too light for your car :p

    And I'll have to admit myself - the 20MPG on the 928 was under average driving. A couple of tankfuls were spent a bit "faster" and it would be easy enough to go below 10MPG . And a question - at 170MPH, what car would do better than 5MPG? Probably not many...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Subaru Forester 2.5XT auto, I get just over 20 mpg around town, 26 on long runs at fairly high speeds, maybe 30mpg if I keep to the motorway limit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    1979 Ford Escort MkII RS2000. 4 speed. Has done over 30mpg, but has also done less
    than 12mpg on a track day.

    Pics ?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    Savman wrote: »
    Is anyone else astounded at these figures? I mean, 15-20mpg, christ, might wanna check your towbar lads, could be a few rail carriages attached :eek:

    FYI, I've a 2L TDDI Mondeo that will do 40-45mpg without a fuss, anything less would break my heart tbh.

    Is it really any surprise that the occupants of the "motoring" forum have thirstier engines and heavier feet than most?

    It's also no surprised that it's not a huge priority. Unless you are driving a 10+ year old car, or covering huge mileage, fuel is a pretty small percentage of the total cost of ownership.

    Edit:
    e39 520i 25 (sub)urban, 36 N Road, 34 Motorway (Weight might be useful too ~1600kg)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭HungryJoey


    Toledo 2.3 V5

    Motorway speeds ~120km/h average 31mpg
    Around town speeds average ~20mpg
    Foot to floor @ any speed ~5/6MPG

    Best I got was 36mpg cruising around 100kmh on the motorway, for a long time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    kbannon wrote: »
    There is a difference between a 4.4L petrol and a 2L tractor in all fairness!
    Nice condescending and elitist attitude you have there. From a mod too, which is disappointing. You could show a little more respect to us non-petrolheads, god forbid, we drive normal machines with normal fuel economy. But hey, it's your money, spend it as you wish.
    fuel is a pretty small percentage of the total cost of ownership.
    See above, the less I have to hand over at the forecourts, the better. If you choose to pay more and with greater regularity, just to drive a 3L luxury barge (in a country where most of the roads and thier speed limits wouldnt even do the car justice), knock yourself out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Why are people with 2 litre engines posting in this thread. Read the thread title before you post. I drive a 2 litre petrol and I know I don't belong here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭alexmcred


    08 Golf 1.4 140 TSI town driving 28.25mpg long journey 35.76. Fun driving 21.73 you can see the needle drop lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,660 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Savman wrote: »
    You could show a little more respect to us non-petrolheads, god forbid, we drive normal machines with normal fuel economy.

    See above, the less I have to hand over at the forecourts, the better. If you choose to pay more and with greater regularity, just to drive a 3L luxury barge (in a country where most of the roads and thier speed limits wouldnt even do the car justice), knock yourself out.

    If anything, most cars listed so far have rather decent economy, 25-30MPG. Your "normal machines" in some cases have worse economy because the engines are too small to power the car efficiently.

    You also don't need a runway style road with no speed limit to enjoy a large luxury car, the very point is that they make the shortest or most tedious journeys an absolute pleasure.

    Chances are also that it is indeed you that is paying more for your Mondeo in the long run if it is relatively new, compared to a larger, older car. However I respect everyones choice as there is usually a reason they made it.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,367 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Savman wrote: »
    Nice condescending and elitist attitude you have there. From a mod too, which is disappointing. You could show a little more respect to us non-petrolheads,
    Are mods not allowed to have views?
    Am I supposed to be a diesel lover now that I am a mod?
    Get down from your high horse. You started
    Savman wrote: »
    god forbid, we drive normal machines with normal fuel economy. But hey, it's your money, spend it as you wish.
    What exactly is normal?
    I do spend my money in my own way, thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭E39MSport


    e39 530d 2926cc 45mpg combined
    landcruiser 100 4164cc 22 combined
    (sold) rrs TDV6 2720cc remapped to 235 Bhp 33mpg combined
    starlet 1300 45mpg combined
    found this: -
    http://www.carspecsdirectory.com/ (but mpg figures are my own)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    911 turbo 1988....av 21 mpg
    bmw e63 645ci....av 28mpg as I do mostly motorway....16 mpg in city


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭dragon_lordMTB


    2003 E46 330i vert 21mpg city commute
    30mpg distance
    15mpg having fun:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭stealthyspeeder


    Mazda 3 MPS 2.3 l turbo

    34-36 mpg on the motorway with cruise control and obeying speed limits (25 mpg in real life!:eek:)

    Best ever - 42mpg driving at 42 mph in 6th!

    22 mpg in town

    19-21 mpg spirited driving on country roads

    2 mpg foot to the floor in 2nd gear!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    i (had) a saab 9-3 2.2tid average 53mpg - i do very little town driving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭positron


    05 Honda Accord 2.0 iVTech
    34-35 MPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭here.from.day.1


    Honda S2000 - 2.0 DOHC Vtec - 28 MPG (Not using Vtec range)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    ytareh wrote: »
    Jeez Recliner I would have thought the RX8 would have been worse than 28mpg...is it 191 or 231bhp version?Do you recommend them?XK8 must have been nice too !

    I do as little town driving as possible, it mostly gets cross country run outs, otherwise i would expect it to be around the 18-20mpg, it is the 192bhp

    Do a search here there are plenty of thread with opinions on RX-8's, they have a few disadvantages over more normal cars but enough advantages to make it worth it

    The smile it puts on my face is worth it alone, same goes for the XK8, I loved that car, always will


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭stealthyspeeder


    I do as little town driving as possible, it mostly gets cross country run outs, otherwise i would expect it to be around the 18-20mpg, it is the 192bhp

    Do a search here there are plenty of thread with opinions on RX-8's, they have a few disadvantages over more normal cars but enough advantages to make it worth it

    The smile it puts on my face is worth it alone, same goes for the XK8, I loved that car, always will

    Was that MPG of petrol or oil? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    2.0 SAAB 900
    32mpg

    1.8 Volvo s40
    36mpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭nogoodnamesleft


    '03 Audi A4 1.9 TDI (130bhp)

    During the summer I decided to record all fuel put into my vehicle's to see which was the cheapest per mile to run on my commute. (Others are motorcycles..)

    Figures are based on the last 8K miles driven by myself since the end of August.

    Overall average was 51.4 mpg mixed driving.
    Best was 54.6 mpg to the tank.
    Worst was 48.7 mpg to the tank.

    Fuel cost 0.09 euro/mile :)


    Im getting roughly the same in a 130bhp Tdi Passat 5 speed.
    The trip computer slightly over reads though when you actually compare it to the calculated mpg figure. I do roughly 56miles round trip on good enough roads trip reports 53mpg calculated figure more like 51mpg.

    In work these mornings before 7 so very little traffic in my neck of the woods and with a lead foot returning roughly 48mpg by the time I park up.

    Some additional things that noticably effect the returned MPG value are the weather.
    -If its very cold ill burn more juice in the mornings as the engine takes longer to get up to optimal temperature.

    -The diesel I use. I find that Tesco diesel gets less miles to the gallon than than diesel sold by branded filling stations. BTW I work a bit abroad from time to time in developing countries and I notice that they have different types of diesel similar to different RON for petrols.

    -A properly serviced car. there is a noticable difference with new engine oil, new airfilter, new fuel filter and of course properly inflated tyres!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,760 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Pics ?.

    I have a few ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    I never believe OBCs so by pump calculation, my old 98 A6 2.8 got a consistant 25/ 26mpg for mixed driving without much care for economy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    You also don't need a runway style road with no speed limit to enjoy a large luxury car, the very point is that they make the shortest or most tedious journeys an absolute pleasure.

    ^^^
    So true!!
    I used to love my '96 BMW 523, 2.5l, straight 6 pot!
    Would bring a smile to my face everytime I'd hear her turn over!! :D

    Driving style: dont hang about; but will cruise when up to, or just above the speed limit!
    Averaged about 23mpg for the year I had it!! 40:40:20, Motorway:National Roads:City

    Head gasket ending up going on her :mad: and had to buy a car in a hurry!
    99 Vectra SRi 2l; shes returning 32.3mpg on the OBC - never did the fill to empty - probably 30 in reality!

    But when I eventually get around to changing the car come May (post wedding), Ill definately be going back to a large motor BMW!! Fingers crossed for an M5 - but I reckon the budget today is going to make me cry with the carbon tax!! :mad:
    Will be a second hand - maybe 5 years old, but 2.5l + will be the only consideration!! The extra few quid on tax, insurance and petrol; will be balanced out when depreciation is factored in -and sheer driving pleasure is worth it!! (*as opposed to a brand new 1.4 Focus or something*)


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Anjin


    Skoda Octavia VRS - 2.0 TDI - roughly between 40mpg and 47mpg depends on how much you shoe it. Never tried it on a long run though, mind you it has cruse control so it should be good:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭kodute


    Anything 2 liters or under has no business in this thread!

    But since we are all at it... 99 2.0D Corolla 40mpg on commute, best ever recorded 50mpg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,794 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    1993 Porsche 968 Tiptronic, 156,000 miles young :)

    Went to Top Gear Live on Fri, back to Galway Sat, commute to work Sunday and today: average so far: 26mpg

    23 if you act the maggot.


    Forgot: brother's 3.0t 9-5 Tiptronic. Fast motoring Mallow-Galway on Sunday: 29.9mpg

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    kodute wrote: »
    Anything 2 liters or under has no business in this thread!

    But since we are all at it... 99 2.0D Corolla 40mpg on commute, best ever recorded 50mpg.

    Or anything diesel..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    kodute wrote: »
    Anything 2 liters or under has no business in this thread!

    But since we are all at it... 99 2.0D Corolla 40mpg on commute, best ever recorded 50mpg.

    They were asked for as a comparison earlier and it's quite good to see the inefficiencies of smaller engines with cars becoming heavier and heavier


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,794 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    How does everyone do there checks, ie are you using the trip computers or are you doing it by acutal millage vrs consumption.

    Mine however not a large engine, IS200 29-30MPG every time I check it.

    litres bought/mileage. My car ain't got no 'puter ! :D

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    galwaytt wrote: »
    litres bought/mileage. My car ain't got no 'puter ! :D
    Same here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Same here.
    And here.

    At least, for the 'everyday' and 'motorway' figures.

    My 'acting the maggot' and 'foot to the floor' figures are from the computer; I haven't the necessary driving skills, financial resources, legal representation, or death wish to do either of those for the duration of a full tank of petrol. :D


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭TherapyBoy


    Rovi wrote: »
    2003 Audi RS-6 (4.2l bi-turbo)

    *drools*


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭serco


    E39 530i auto

    On the motorway i get 32mpg with cruise control on at around 80mph.

    The past few weeks ive been doing only a short 15 min run in morning from cold and same in the evening, getting 17mpg there....pretty nasty

    all figures are calculated the old skool way, my obc lies!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭tc20


    1982 W123 280E auto

    19mpg regular commute (10 mile round trip)
    26ish on a country run


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    i got 14 mpg driving my mates skyline ( 2.6 twin turbo )


    under 10 when slightly on the power :mad:

    120 euro to drive the thing for the day :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,699 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Accord 2.0i VTEC (05)

    Just worked it out and it's between 38-41mpg. All my driving is the same - 80% Motorway / N Road, 20% R roads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭gorfield


    Opel corsa opc 1.6 turbo. 200bhp.

    Wife driving- 25-30mpg
    Me driving- 15-20mpg.

    Its a bloody alco


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Shires


    kodute wrote: »
    Anything 2 liters or under has no business in this thread!

    Well the OP said 2.5, but on that basis.. BMW 520i E39 2.2 1600kg manual :o

    31mpg long trips on M/N roads
    25mpg good progress on back road / suburban
    5-10mpg estimated by fuel gauge on a trip to hospital, not a fun journey

    I heard the 4-cylinder, 2.0 replacement in the E60 (Dame Edna style 5 series) is more economical and has just as much power at the top end, but the lovely noise and torque curve of my little 6-banger are worth every single penny extra at the pump to me. Mainly the nice noise!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Shires wrote: »
    the lovely noise and torque curve of my little 6-banger are worth every single penny extra at the pump to me. Mainly the nice noise!

    Couldnt agree more!! Its worth the feel good factor!!
    Now with the carbon tax - its a few more cents but sure feck it!! ;)
    Makes the plans for the 5l V8 M5 a lil more costly!! :p


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