Liverpool v Fiorentina [Match Thread] Aquilani to start

Good to have you back Torres, he's looking lively.

Different team with him on.

Pacheco on

flahavaj

BumbleBee123 wrote: »

Pacheco!!!

Should have been getting a run when Voronin was getting games there a few weeks back IMO.

That_Guy

Someone should tell that Pacheco lad that pink and red don't match.

Fashion police on their way to Anfield.

joe123

Delighted to finally see pacheco in the first team. Brilliant little player from what ive seen. Hes small,fast,tricky and has plenty of flair something our team lacks at times.

Id play him ahead of Ngog any day.

EDIT: What a difference Torres makes to the team.

NukaCola

joe123 wrote: »

Delighted to finally see pacheco in the first team. Brilliant little player from what ive seen. Hes small,fast,tricky and has plenty of flair something our team lacks at times.

Id play him ahead of Ngog any day.

Pacheco plays off the striker. N'Gog is a striker.
Not like for like TBF. Also N'Gog has been playing well.
Would like to see Pacheco a lot more myself though.

joe123

BumbleBee123 wrote: »

Pacheco plays off the striker. N'Gog is a striker.
Not like for like TBF. Also N'Gog has been playing well.
Would like to see Pacheco a lot more myself though.

Id play Kuyt up front and stick Pacheco in behind and Yossi out wide.

Even still I think Pacheco would be more effective than Ngog. I just dont think hes any good at all and will be very suprised if hes still at the club in two years time.

NukaCola

Darby looking really tired

BumbleBee123

BumbleBee123 wrote: »

Darby looking really tired

caught out for that goal

Jako8

AWW FFS!! :mad:

Very disappointing end.

NukaCola

joe123 wrote: »

I just dont think hes any good at all

I'm surprised at that TBH.
Looks like a good player, plenty of pace good control and an eye for goal and a few goals to boot. Any time i've seen N'gog play I have not been dissapointed. And he's only 20!

I'd play him up front ahead of Kuyt any day. Leave Kuyt on the wing.

Headshot

what is it with ye and conceding last minute goals ?

That_Guy

Poor defending.

Aidric

Fully deserved.

D2D

Oh FFS:mad::mad::mad:

This CL campaign has been absoloutly woeful

joe123

Story of the campaign.:(

Glico Man

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Oh FFS:mad::mad::mad:

This CL campaign has been absoloutly woeful

This season as a whole has been woeful

NukaCola

Headshot wrote: »

what is it with ye and conceding last minute goals ?

****e defending basically

Unearthly

That was so predictable

NukaCola

Aidric wrote: »

Fully deserved.

Naw, nothing much between the two TBH. Deserved a draw.

on a brighter note, no injuries

flahavaj

Well done Fiorentina, they look like a decent footballing side. Wouldn't like to be facing them in tha last 16, will give most teams a good match I'd say.

magma69

I've surpassed the pissed off stage. I actually find this funny :pac:. This team is complete rubbish. Their confidence is the pits. Effort and desire to win isn't even there.

Mr Velo

magma69 wrote: »

I've surpassed the pissed off stage. I actually find this funny :pac:. This team is complete rubbish. Their confidence is the pits. Effort and desire to win isn't even there.

Sadly i'm with you there Magma69. I didn't even remember that this game was on until there was 71 mins gone in it....

Pi55ed off with this lot.

NukaCola

C'mon lads its not all doom and gloom......
Oh wait...
Yes..
Yes it is..

segadreamcast

Stevie sounds fairly unhappy. This has been some woeful season. 'Green shoots' around the place but, jesus, after last season, green shoots wasn't really what everyone here expected to be looking for...

Kirby

Team isnt good enough. Overachieved last season. New manager and a cleanout of the rubbish needed. Won't happen, so unless an offer is made for the club they will continue to plod along.

Shame really. There are some good players in the youth setup. How did people rate Aquilani by the way? Wasn't blown away....but I can see the potential there. Bit more match practice is needed. Hope he starts in the weekend.

daithijjj

Typical of us tonight, we will probably beat arsenal on sunday, such is the rollercoaster ride of being a fan of this team.

joe123

BumbleBee123 wrote: »

I'm surprised at that TBH.
Looks like a good player, plenty of pace good control and an eye for goal and a few goals to boot. Any time i've seen N'gog play I have not been dissapointed. And he's only 20!

I'd play him up front ahead of Kuyt any day. Leave Kuyt on the wing.

I just dont see it. For the build of him he doesnt seem overly quick and shoulder to shoulder hes like a featherweight. Pushed off the ball constantly. Doesnt seem to be aware of whats around him at all.

And not really sure why you think he has an eye for goal. Maybe im doing him an injustice here but off the top of my head all his goals that hes got for us have been little flicks/tap ins. I remember a header he got from about two yards out which he nearly put over.

I much prefer Kuyt out wide myself aswell to be honest.

NukaCola

Kirby wrote: »

Team isnt good enough. Overachieved last season. New manager and a cleanout of the rubbish needed. Won't happen, so unless an offer is made for the club they will continue to plod along.

Shame really. There are some good players in the youth setup. How did people rate Aquilani by the way? Wasn't blown away....but I can see the potential there. Bit more match practice is needed. Hope he starts in the weekend.

Aquilani played well, bit of match fitness and he'll be smashing...

Kirby

joe123 wrote: »

I much prefer Kuyt out wide myself aswell to be honest.

Kuyt has been fairly rubbish this season though. I'm a fan of what he brings when hes playing well, but there is just no guile there at all. I'd have dropped him to the bench by now tbh.

NukaCola

joe123 wrote: »

I just dont see it. For the build of him he doesnt seem overly quick and shoulder to shoulder hes like a featherweight. Pushed off the ball constantly. Doesnt seem to be aware of whats around him at all.

And not really sure why you think he has an eye for goal. Maybe im doing him an injustice here but off the top of my head all his goals that hes got for us have been little flicks/tap ins. I remember a header he got from about two yards out which he nearly put over.

I much prefer Kuyt out wide myself aswell to be honest.

I think your being a bit harsh on the lad.
He needs to be in position for tap ins after all, he is fast and he bulked up since last season, he is strong on the ball. I remember that header too, down off the crossbar
He's not the finished article, at 20 hes a good prospect.

flahavaj

daithijjj wrote: »

Typical of us tonight, we will probably beat arsenal on sunday, such is the rollercoaster ride of being a fan of this team.

Absolutely nailed on 1000% per cent to win. It would be typical of both Liverpool and Arsenal for this to happen.

NukaCola

Kirby wrote: »

Kuyt has been fairly rubbish this season though. I'm a fan of what he brings when hes playing well, but there is just no guile there at all. I'd have dropped him to the bench by now tbh.

He has been really poor.
Every one in that squad needs to up their game big time, apart from a small few.

Jako8

Kirby wrote: »

Kuyt has been fairly rubbish this season though. I'm a fan of what he brings when hes playing well, but there is just no guile there at all. I'd have dropped him to the bench by now tbh.

Dunphy?



In all seriousness though. Our season has been pretty bad so far. Something has got to be done as I don't see the determination that was there last season. Last season we were turning results around with pure grit and determination. The team just doesn't seem to have it now though.

Raskolnikov

Kirby wrote: »

Kuyt has been fairly rubbish this season though. I'm a fan of what he brings when hes playing well, but there is just no guile there at all. I'd have dropped him to the bench by now tbh.

To be honest, I think that he just looks knackered. With Torres out he's had to play practically every game this season. For an all-action player who never stops running, that'll take its toll.

Kirby

Jako8 wrote: »

Dunphy?



In all seriousness though. Our season has been pretty bad so far. Something has got to be done as I don't see the determination that was there last season. Last season we were turning results around with pure grit and determination. The team just doesn't seem to have it now though.

Its a legitimate word.....its in the dictionary and everything! Its true though. If there isn't an easy pass on, he is going to lose the ball. Its like clockwork. I take the point that he's tired, but its december. I don't really buy that from a pro this early into the season. And its not like he was brilliant back in september either.

Mr.Nice Guy

I can't wait to hear what Dunphy makes of this.

Chardee MacDennis

joe123 wrote: »

I just dont see it. For the build of him he doesnt seem overly quick and shoulder to shoulder hes like a featherweight. Pushed off the ball constantly. Doesnt seem to be aware of whats around him at all.

i think you were watching a different game...

rossie1977

flahavaj wrote: »

Absolutely nailed on 1000% per cent to win. It would be typical of both Liverpool and Arsenal for this to happen.

you putting money on that then fla, €100 should be enough

personally if liverpool were playing athlone town on sunday at anfield i wouldn't put money on liverpool, so bad they are at the minute

Bandit12

Yawnfest nothing game. Aquaman looked excellent and good to see Pacheco get some game time. Onward and upward.

Headshot

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I can't wait to hear what Dunphy makes of this.

its coming up after the adverts

i cant wait

Quandary

Jako8 wrote: »

Last season we were turning results around with pure grit and determination. The team just doesn't seem to have it now though.

grit and determination will only take you so far & arent enough to rely on for results. more squad depth and consistecy is what is required but obviously cash problems are limiting who ye can buy & consistency is linked to confidence which is at a low these days at Liverpool

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

its coming up after the adverts

i cant wait

I've the Kleenex ready

Headshot

rarnes1 wrote: »

I've the Kleenex ready

dont worry, no need to cry

ye still have the mickey mouse Europa league

jesus_thats_gre

Fairly typical display by Liverpool again.

In terms of plus points, I was absolutely delighted to see Pacheco come on and was extremely impressed with him everytime he got on the balls. Really excited about what his future may hold. The fact that Sky didn't mention him in the post match analysis doesn't surprise me too much but some of the press have to pick up on it.

I was surprisingly impressed for Dosenna also. How he was ever played as a full back is beyond me but he done well on the left and got himself into some extremely good positions.

Aquilani done pretty much as well as I expected. Lacked sharpness but still done well.

I was extremely impressed by Mascherano's performance. It is how we are used to seeing him play and hopefully the talk of a new contract has had a part to play in it - hopefully he may have gotten over the Barca talk now.

Good to see another local lad come through but shame he had an integral part to play in the losin goal. It's time to give Kuyt and Insua a break.

flahavaj

rossie1977 wrote: »

you putting money on that then fla, €100 should be enough

personally if liverpool were playing athlone town on sunday at anfield i wouldn't put money on liverpool, so bad they are at the minute

I might thropw a few bob on them actually.

I said they'd beat United as well. Just seems like one of those times Rafa will pull off the unlikely victory.

Might as well make a few bob from such a rare occurance afterall.:pac:

flahavaj

rarnes1 wrote: »

I've the Kleenex ready

Are you crying or w*nking?:pac:

NukaCola

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I can't wait to hear what Dunphy makes of this.

Headshot wrote: »

its coming up after the adverts

i cant wait

:rolleyes:
Isn't he a bit predictable lads??

Headshot

BumbleBee123 wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Isn't he a bit predictable lads??

just have to laugh at what he comes out with, unbelievable stuff sometimes

Boggles

Shocking match.

More conclusive evidence there is big trouble in the Liverpool camp, completely souless performance.