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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    Fad wrote: »
    Wasnt referring to that incident :p

    I'll come back to this tomorrow, I'd have to hunt through the OT thread, and I have to get up at 6 :(

    My general message is though, just let things flow a little more.....
    "Let things flow a little more..." - gotcha. Point taken. :)
    eVeNtInE wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    Soccer's an absolute minefield; anyone brave enough to mod that place deserves respect!
    I know I've been a bit complainy in this thread but on the positive feedback front, I do really like the forum and it's probably the one I visit most now.

    Like I said to Fad, don't worry about coming across as negative or critical. Seriously, the more honest everyone is with their feedback, the better it is for us and for the forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭Jackobyte


    Soccer's an absolute minefield; anyone brave enough to mod that place deserves respect!
    Soccer is ridiculous. You can hardly express your opinion without infringing some part of the charter...


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    We have 21 registered users looking at this forum right now. I think we (as a forum, the whole group) must be doing something right :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    This forum has undergone more of a transformation in the last 10 days than it has since it began. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    I was thinking about the Soundtrack To Your Angst thread.

    I was beginning to find it very stale, that people owuld just come on and post a few videos and pretty much leave it at that, I was guilty of that too.
    But to be honest, I'd like to have more discussions going on. Me and thebigcheese had a good discussion about Pearl Jam. I'd really like it if there was more of that going on :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    I'm pretty sure that thread was intended as a general music discussion thread. The whole "post a vid and leave" just happened to be the format it took.
    I have no problem with more discussion being there. :)


  • Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Less pr0nstar discussion would be cool. Just saying


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    D4RK ONION wrote: »
    Less pr0nstar discussion would be cool. Just saying

    We could put aside a thread for Brummytom to post in, heavily modded (perhaps a new mod set aside just for that thread alone), and he's not allowed to introduce anything dirty to other threads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    It's kinda funny. He's been here what, three days? And already he's brought down the class of this forum with little or no effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I've never felt so proud. The best thing is, it was unintentional :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭Zaffy


    Did you have to pick C&H?

    I just think of Cyanide and Happiness...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    We've discussed the forum name....I don't know how many times. A poll was done not so long ago about whether to change it or not, and in typical C&H fashion, it ended in a tie! So it's being left alone for the foreseeable future.

    Besides, Cyanide & Happiness is awesome! So if it makes you think of that, all well and good. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    We've discussed the forum name....I don't know how many times. A poll was done not so long ago about whether to change it or not, and in typical C&H fashion, it ended in a tie! So it's being left alone for the foreseeable future.

    Should change half the name to be honest (We can ignore the "and" since it's 3 words), and since everyone loved "The Breakfast Club" I suggest "Breakfast and Hormones" or "The Clearasil Club"


  • Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Who was that total legend who came up with the breakfast club



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    Just a quick suggestion to maybe make a thread for people to put themselves forward for "In the Play-pen".. I don't *think* one exists and it was the way the order in which people were in the "Noclight" in the noc forum was decided. :)

    Also, I've only been posting here a few days, but you're all lovely and have made me feel very welcome, so cheers! :)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Aoibheann wrote: »
    Just a quick suggestion to maybe make a thread for people to put themselves forward for "In the Play-pen".. I don't *think* one exists and it was the way the order in which people were in the "Noclight" in the noc forum was decided. :)

    Good idea.
    If you open a new thread I'll post the list as it currently stands, and further volunteers can take their places from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    Good idea.
    If you open a new thread I'll post the list as it currently stands, and further volunteers can take their places from there.

    I'm lazy, so Craguls did it instead. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I don't really like the whole "no discussions in the pics thread" rule. Oh sure, I weild the sexy powers and could tell everyone to comment all they like, but that's not how we do it round these here parts. I'd like to get opinions from users and my fellow mods about possibly changing this rule to "no comments that could make a person feel uneasy". Now I know this is fairly loose, but we're not trying to rewrite the constitution here ;) but I think the mods could be trusted to interpret this in a way that would allow for discussion, but still let people feel comfortable posting pics of themselves (no pervin' basically ;) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    Piste wrote: »
    I don't really like the whole "no discussions in the pics thread" rule. Oh sure, I weild the sexy powers and could tell everyone to comment all they like, but that's not how we do it round these here parts. I'd like to get opinions from users and my fellow mods about possibly changing this rule to "no comments that could make a person feel uneasy". Now I know this is fairly loose, but we're not trying to rewrite the constitution here ;) but I think the mods could be trusted to interpret this in a way that would allow for discussion, but still let people feel comfortable posting pics of themselves (no pervin' basically ;) )

    I think the best way to go about it would be "no discussion without a pic!"
    ie, if you don't post a picture of yourself you can't make comments about the photos of others. Yes convoluted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    Piste wrote: »
    I don't really like the whole "no discussions in the pics thread" rule. Oh sure, I weild the sexy powers and could tell everyone to comment all they like, but that's not how we do it round these here parts. I'd like to get opinions from users and my fellow mods about possibly changing this rule to "no comments that could make a person feel uneasy". Now I know this is fairly loose, but we're not trying to rewrite the constitution here ;) but I think the mods could be trusted to interpret this in a way that would allow for discussion, but still let people feel comfortable posting pics of themselves (no pervin' basically ;) )

    I agree with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    But there are only so many pics on oneself one has! It also means people look incredibly narcissistic (I've seen it on some of the other fora: "oh I hate posting pix of myself, I'm so unphotogenic! *posts pic of self in studio with soft lighting about ten times*)

    How is one supposed to go "omg! where'd you get that skirt?" when one doesn't want to post a picture?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    bythewoods wrote: »
    I think the best way to go about it would be "no discussion without a pic!"
    ie, if you don't post a picture of yourself you can't make comments about the photos of others. Yes convoluted.

    +1

    Aye, methinks a few of the other forums do something similar.. it's basically "no pic, no post" but comments appear to be allowed provided they're not sleazy/offensive/etc and provided the member posts a picture.
    Piste wrote: »
    But there are only so many pics on oneself one has! It also means people look incredibly narcissistic (I've seen it on some of the other fora: "oh I hate posting pix of myself, I'm so unphotogenic! *posts pic of self in studio with soft lighting about ten times*)

    How is one supposed to go "omg! where'd you get that skirt?" when one doesn't want to post a picture?!


    ..however, there is also this, I have very few photos of me lurking around, and even fewer that I'd want to post here.. so unless you get to recycle photos I'd run out pretty fast.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Piste wrote: »
    I don't really like the whole "no discussions in the pics thread" rule. Oh sure, I weild the sexy powers and could tell everyone to comment all they like, but that's not how we do it round these here parts. I'd like to get opinions from users and my fellow mods about possibly changing this rule to "no comments that could make a person feel uneasy". Now I know this is fairly loose, but we're not trying to rewrite the constitution here ;) but I think the mods could be trusted to interpret this in a way that would allow for discussion, but still let people feel comfortable posting pics of themselves (no pervin' basically ;) )

    If you're still awake, feel free to amend the thread as needs be. :)
    If you're asleep, then I'll fix it to suit the new arrangement in a few hours time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    I just wanted to offer some general feedback about this forum, and just say what I think about it.
    I've been wanting to do this now for a while, but I just never got aorund to it.

    For the last few weeks I've been thinking about C+H and the topics that are discussed and the threads that we have (I started thinking about this before we got so busy). The thing that I was mainly thinking about was that the topics being discussed could be thrown into any other forum, that C+H isn't exactly special, though we do have the yaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh and arrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh threads, also the Soundtrack to your Angst.
    Basically, I thought that C+H was just a bit silly and didn't have much point to it.
    As well as that, some ideas were "borrowed" from other forums, so I didn't think we'd be able to evolve and start our own topics.

    BUT!

    That's not the point of this forum. The point is that it's a place for the younger members of boards to come and talk and to discuss various things with people their own age. It took me a while to realise that, so I started to dislike the place sometimes.
    The Nocturnal forum serves a similar purpose, only it's for people who are awake really late, then there's BGRH, tLL and a few others around the place.

    I really like that there's no particular topic that has to be discussed. We don't even discuss things that are necessarily related to teeens, it has fairly general discussions, which is lovely. Then of course there are tpics related to us young'uns.


    So yeah, that's it.
    Thanks to the mods, who do a good job. Also, I think it's necessary to thank the guys who campaigned for this forum in the beginning, such as Insect and JKC, and of course to the admin who approved C+H.
    And to the other posters here, you guys are lovely!


    I'll end it here before I start to sound even more gay and sappy :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    If you're still awake, feel free to amend the thread as needs be. :)
    If you're asleep, then I'll fix it to suit the new arrangement in a few hours time.

    Well I don't want to be all barging in and saying "rule's changed!" maybe leave the suggestion up for a day or two and we can see what people think instead of me forcing my opinion onto everyone >_>


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    I think it should be a "No Picture, No Post" thing. At that, no harsh criticism of pictures or anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,553 ✭✭✭soccymonster


    jumpguy wrote: »
    I think it should be a "No Picture, No Post" thing. At that, no harsh criticism of pictures or anything.

    same here.
    Because I remember some randomer (thats just one of those new posters that write something and never log back in type) and they commented on a C&Her's picture with something that was quite rude before it got deleted. And even if a mod does change it, the poster of the pic might still see it and be hurt like.
    But then again, thats just my opinion. We are talking about the no picture, no post thing in the know your *description thingy* thread, right? :o

    edit: scratch that, bythewoods' idea is better now :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    same here.
    Because I remember some randomer (thats just one of those new posters that write something and never log back in type) and they commented on a C&Her's picture with something that was quite rude before it got deleted. And even if a mod does change it, the poster of the pic might still see it and be hurt like.
    But then again, thats just my opinion. We are talking about the no picture, no post thing in the know your *description thingy* thread, right? :o
    Yeah but I'd hope that when a person puts up a picture, they know it's only a matter of time before some troll comes into the forum and someone could post a rude comment and the pic poster could see it before it's deleted. Just remember that when you post up a pic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭Jackobyte


    same here.
    Because I remember some randomer (thats just one of those new posters that write something and never log back in type) and they commented on a C&Her's picture with something that was quite rude before it got deleted. And even if a mod does change it, the poster of the pic might still see it and be hurt like.
    But then again, thats just my opinion. We are talking about the no picture, no post thing in the know your *description thingy* thread, right? :o

    edit: scratch that, bythewoods' idea is better now :P
    Ya, I saw that post! Didn't really care though. Anyone who has to put someone else down to feel good about themselves is a douche, plain and simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    same here.
    Because I remember some randomer (thats just one of those new posters that write something and never log back in type) and they commented on a C&Her's picture with something that was quite rude before it got deleted. And even if a mod does change it, the poster of the pic might still see it and be hurt like.
    But then again, thats just my opinion. We are talking about the no picture, no post thing in the know your *description thingy* thread, right? :o

    edit: scratch that, bythewoods' idea is better now :P

    As amazing and all as we mods are, that sort of stuff will happen whether we have a "no posts without a picture" rule or not. There will always be trolls saying nasty things, and while we're usually ninja enough to delete the posts, sometimes it's up long enough for users to see them. Just something to be aware of when you're posting pics!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    No posting without at least one pic from you in the thread?

    It's very specific sounding, but it could work.


  • Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    I think Fad's above idea is the best version to be honest. If you're too afraid to be judged, then you damn sure shouldn't get to judge.
    Jay P wrote: »
    [snip]I'll end it here before I start to sound even more gay and sappy :o
    Bit too late for that to be honest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    Yes I like Fad's suggestion- nice work! What do people think of this? Just thank Fad's post if you agree, and if there's a decent amount of people I'll amend the rule.


    Oh and my balaclava-clad picture totally counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    jumpguy wrote: »
    I think it should be a "No Picture, No Post" thing. At that, no harsh criticism of pictures or anything.
    Fad wrote: »
    No posting without at least one pic from you in the thread?

    It's very specific sounding, but it could work.
    I got there first...:( But lets not be petty here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    Oh sorry, I thought you meant you wanted to keep the existing rule in place whereby each post has to have a picture, I misunderstood. I'll go back and thank your post if it makes you feel better :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Piste wrote: »
    Oh sorry, I thought you meant you wanted to keep the existing rule in place whereby each post has to have a picture, I misunderstood. I'll go back and thank your post if it makes you feel better :P
    *coos*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    jumpguy wrote: »
    I got there first...:( But lets not be petty here...

    The suggestions arent the same though, or at least, that dont read the same (At all).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Fad wrote: »
    The suggestions arent the same though, or at least, that dont read the same (At all).
    <_< >_> It's okay man, I got the sympathy thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    jumpguy wrote: »
    <_< >_> It's okay man, I got the sympathy thanks.

    This post will get one too :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    Ok seeing as a good few people have agreed with Fad and I haven't seen any major objections I'll go ahead and change to rule tomorrow, get your objections in here before then folks!


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    No objections from me! I just copy/pasted rules from the Know Your Nerds thread... :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭Jackobyte


    Piste wrote: »
    Ok seeing as a good few people have agreed with Fad and I haven't seen any major objections I'll go ahead and change to rule tomorrow, get your objections in here before then folks!
    So you must have posted a picture of yourself somewhere in the thread, not in every one of your posts, before commenting on any other pic?

    Ya, that makes the most sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭syncosised


    C&H is a great board, I like posting here and the users seems nice. But, I've noticed there's a lot of discussion about alcohol, smoking, and on occassion, drugs. They're discussed in a way that portrays them in an entirely subjective manner.

    I know I'm a new user, and if ye don't agree with me then I'll just quietly leave this topic. But, from what I understand, Clearasil and Hormones is a board for teenagers, possibly the first stop for new young users. There are at least a hundred boards on here, but this must be the only one dedicated to young people. I personally don't think it's appropriate to be talking about things like alcohol here, at least not to the extent it is or the way it is. Young people these days are already under so much pressure with regards to these things, I think this place should be aimed very much so at the younger users, with a view to their pressing issues. If they wish to discuss the general idea of alcohol, by all means, but having the older users discussing their drunken nights out isn't really fair. There's lots of other boards, like After Hours, where that kind of discussion would be commonplace.

    Anyway, I think I'm rambling now, but I hope I've gotten my point across. I don't mean to be pushy, being a new member here, I just wanted to say that.


  • Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Before anyone says it, yeah, I know him in real life, and no I am not agreeing with him for this reason. In fact I was mulling over how I would say this for a week or two now, but seeing as sycosised has gone first, I'll say it now.

    I agree to an extent with what sycosised has said, and on the other hand I have another problem as well. Firstly, I think the discussion of alcohol is a bit inappropriate here, with such a young user base, and even though, yes it is the young adult forum, it isn't JUST the young adult forum and as such the older folk here need to be appropriate and yes, shockingly, a bit more mature.

    Speaking of maturity, some posts in Insect Overlord's "Playpen" thread were just plain silly. And not in a funny way. I was going to report some of them but it was dealt with in the end and justly too, I feel. But unfortunately it doesn't end in there. In particular, some of the posters in "It's half 4..." go way overboard for a teen and young adult forum. I have held off reporting, but I shan't anymore.

    I'm starting to sound like a conservative 40 year old here, but that's not who I am in the slightest. I am incredibly liberal in thinking, but there's a time and a place, and for some posts, I feel this forum is not the place.

    /rant :)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Syncosised, I'm going to talk to the other mods about your comment before giving a full response here. Thanks for bringing it up, and hopefully we'll have an answer for you in the next 24-48 hours.

    (Piste, KnifeWRENCH, anyone else with access: link to thread here)

    D4RK ONION, I dealt with the issues in the Playpen thread as well as I could at the time, and I'll be keeping a close eye on further editions to make sure none of that crap is repeated in future.
    As for the 4:30 a.m. thread, I've posted there a fair bit myself, but I totally agree that a lot of it is inappropriate. I'll see what can be done, but it could end up just getting locked or moved if it can't be rectified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    I have to say after reading the above I kinda agree, although I'm almost certainly one of the guilty parties, never really thought about that ;_;


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    Going to have to agree with the guys here (and I don't even know either of them in real life! :p). As they say, it's a teenage forum first and foremost (god, saying that makes me feel so old :/), and it's meant to include everyone. Even for that reason alone, the aforementioned discussions are unfair/inappropriate. I don't see in any harm in discussing alcohol or anything else for that matter once it's not in an "OMG I was so hammered last night LOLZ" etc etc. As D4RK ONION said, we could maybe try to be a bit more mature about it? :P

    I'll add to this when I have a proper think about it, but seeing the guys post here reminded me of it.


  • Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    D4RK ONION, I dealt with the issues in the Playpen thread as well as I could at the time, and I'll be keeping a close eye on further editions to make sure none of that crap is repeated in future.

    Insect, I know it was dealt with, and it was dealt with well, especially as it was your own thread. ;) I was only using that as an example, it was the culmination of a growing trend tbh. And I'm glad to know your eye will be watching because, I'll say this now everyone in the nicest way I can, I will not answer any stupidity. (silliness will be answered with great pleasure :D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    I agree with alot of what Onion has said, tbh some parts of the Play-Pen thread were definetly out of line.

    As for the alcohol, as Aoibheann said, I think it's okay to discuss a night out, as long as getting too drunk and being irresponsible isn't glorified (which it shouldn't, not here anyway).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭Jackobyte


    Agree here, There is far too much conversations about alcohol here. Being someone who has not yet gone "knacker" drinking or having experienced being drunk so has no experience of this. (i am given small amounts of drink by my parents here and there and I much prefer experiencing drink in these circumsances than in a field somewhere). I have never noticed posts relating to drugs/smoking before though.


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