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The "live as it happens" Budget comment thread....

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    #62
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    ofjames wrote: »
    is he on his feet yet? stuck in the office here so cant get a live feed
    He's not on yet, the place will light up when he is I expect.

    Why can you not get the feed live? Do you get an error??

    DeV.


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    #63
    Lirael
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Lirael


    Rb wrote: »
    So children should be entitled to walk around in tax free designer wear...? I'm not too sure where you're coming from. The country needs more money going towards the running of it, luxury goods should be taxed, simple as. If designer childrens footwear aren't a luxury, I don't know what is.

    I'd like to see a ministry with balls that would tax just LUXURY DESIGNERS shoes and clothing .... I'd like to see how would they do an exeption for DS or Penney's ....

    it wouldn't really change anything taxing it, as DS Penneys garments would still be cheap and it will only increase their profit when people will revert to them


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    #64
    Atwork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭Atwork


    Dubya89 wrote: »
    Nervous they're going to cut my dole by 50% .


    I believe so, and very unfair as far as Im concerned. I really feel sorry for some younger people, go to college for a couple of years, study hard, get job, buy car or maybe house, lose job and then told to bend over.


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    #65
    meganj
    Registered Users Posts: 424 ✭✭meganj


    they're like kids in the background of the live feed, whispering to each other. the tension is palapable.


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    #66
    Liam79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭Liam79


    Rb wrote: »
    I'm going to refer you to this thread : http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055679567


    RB, i am not condoning it!!! I am just saying, thats what would happen...Business is business.....

    i never said I would condone it


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    #67
    jester77
    Registered Users Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Atwork wrote: »
    I believe so, and very unfair as far as Im concerned. I really feel sorry for some younger people, go to college for a couple of years, study hard, get job, buy car or maybe house, lose job and then told to bend over.

    No one directly out of college should be buying a house, this is why the country is in the mess it is in.


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    #68
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Lirael wrote: »
    I'd like to see a ministry with balls that would tax just LUXURY DESIGNERS shoes and clothing .... I'd like to see how would they do an exeption for DS or Penney's ....

    it wouldn't really change anything taxing it, as DS Penneys garments would still be cheap and it will only increase their profit when people will revert to them
    Obviously by price...surely that was self-explanatory? Read the whole posts on the matter, don't just jump to conclusions. I'm not talking about taxing the brands themselves.


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    #69
    Liam79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭Liam79


    Sit down and shut up Dempsey :mad:


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    #70
    frman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭frman


    Rb wrote: »
    By that I assume you mean drive enough people to the black market to cause a net loss in takings in that tax year? I believe history is on my side on this one, is it not? .

    I'm not sure it is.

    Any chance you can point me to that evidence, or are you just saying that it must be so because the Govt can't be that stupid ?


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    #71
    meganj
    Registered Users Posts: 424 ✭✭meganj


    anyone know when himself is supposed to arrive?


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    #72
    Lirael
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Lirael


    seamus wrote: »
    Actually it's a fair point Liam. The reasons for having children's clothing tax-free is somewhat obvious; Children's clothes are a necessity and children need new clothes a *lot*. But at what point does a particular item of clothing become something the parent *has* to buy, and instead it becomes an impulse buy - like a €100 hoodie from Baby Gap that the child will grow out of in 6 months?

    Maybe if we imposed 13% on all children's clothing over €50 we'd bring it a bit of cash without affecting the bottom line of those who have children.

    And yes, children's shoes are tax free at present. My wife gets cheap runners. Not because she's a child, but because she has tiny feet so wears children's-size shoes.

    I got same problem - I have child's size 1 (EU 35) and can only buy children's :pac:

    people who don't have kids should not be speaking of their clothes and shoes

    I got 2 kids - boy and girl so I cannot "recycle" for the younger and their clothes are A MUST because they grow and grow fast .... so for example I have to buy 3 pairs of shoes for each per year but I am wise enough not to buy the cheapest but ones of reasonable prices that will at least be good for a couple of months


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    #73
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    meganj wrote: »
    they're like kids in the background of the live feed, whispering to each other. the tension is palapable.

    They generally talk to eachother quite a bit in these things. It's not unusual in the slightest
    Liam79 wrote: »
    RB, i am not condoning it!!! I am just saying, thats what would happen...Business is business.....

    i never said I would condone it

    I'm not talking about condoning it, Liam, I'm talking about making claims based on absolute fiction and with very little grounding in reality, with absolutely no evidence to back up your "argument" apart from your own personal suspicion of how a company *might* react. It's absolute nonsense.


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    #74
    Liam79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭Liam79


    does he need cowan coughlan and co to hold his hand entering the dail?? Where are they all....??!!


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    #75
    ibarelycare
    Registered Users Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    The budget tracker hasn't updated since 2.59, I hope it'll be sorted by the time he starts, can't watch it here in work!


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    #76
    meganj
    Registered Users Posts: 424 ✭✭meganj


    Rb wrote: »
    They generally talk to eachother quite a bit in these things. It's not unusual in the slightest



    I'm not talking about condoning it, Liam, I'm talking about making claims based on absolute fiction and with very little grounding in reality, with absolutely no evidence to back up your "argument" apart from your own personal suspicion of how a company *might* react. It's absolute nonsense.

    I know they just don't usually giggle and point.


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    #77
    Lirael
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Lirael


    Rb wrote: »
    Obviously by price...surely that was self-explanatory? Read the whole posts on the matter, don't just jump to conclusions. I'm not talking about taxing the brands themselves.

    didn't u say that ie. NIKE shoes are luxurious??????????


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    #78
    Liam79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭Liam79


    Rb wrote: »
    They generally talk to eachother quite a bit in these things. It's not unusual in the slightest



    I'm not talking about condoning it, Liam, I'm talking about making claims based on absolute fiction and with very little grounding in reality, with absolutely no evidence to back up your "argument" apart from your own personal suspicion of how a company *might* react. It's absolute nonsense.

    You may be right RB, anyways its about to start....throw me a can..... i think i might need one :(


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    #79
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    frman wrote: »
    I'm not sure it is.

    Any chance you can point me to that evidence, or are you just saying that it must be so because the Govt can't be that stupid ?
    I'm going to refer you to http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055679567 and until you can bring an argument to the table that is outside your own personal experience, and with some sort of evidence, I'm not going to bother engaging you in the matter.

    I know people trafficking cigarettes into this country illegally and how well they do from it, yet I still stand by my statement that a tax increase will result in a net gain in tax revenue as it has previously.


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    #80
    xoxyx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭xoxyx


    Yar. Heckle, heckle, heckle. What are they heckling about - normal practice! Crazy politicians!


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    #81
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Here we go, started now.


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    #82
    ssaye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye


    oh its on...we just got served...


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    #83
    mathie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,102 ✭✭✭mathie


    CC says budget details remain a private matter before release.

    Tell that to the Evening Herald.


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    #84
    Mcloke
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Mcloke


    First laughable moment....we are on the road to recovery!!!! :rolleyes:


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    #85
    SkepticOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭SkepticOne


    Dempsey thinks we're on the way to recovery.


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    #86
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    He's on his feet now.

    What are they all rubbarbing about the document being confidential until he reads it? Thats normal as far as I recall...

    DeV.


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    #87
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    He says we're on the path to recovery ! DEADLY !


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    #88
    Misty Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Misty Chaos


    Are we really on the road to recovery? :pac:


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    #89
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Lirael wrote: »

    people who don't have kids should not be speaking of their clothes and shoes

    Sorry we're talking about products and tax, economical matters, not parenting matters so take your ridiculous argument over to the parenting forum if this is how you're going to enter the debate here.

    Just because someone is not unemployed, does not mean they cannot comment on social welfare and dole. Just because someone is not employed in the public sector, does not mean they cannot comment on public sector pay.

    Again, silly arguments belong elsewhere, please do feel free to take them there.


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    #90
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Here we go, time to see the cream of our rulers being as respectful as teenage boys with a substitute teacher.


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    #91
    ibarelycare
    Registered Users Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Dave! wrote: »
    He says we're on the path to recovery ! DEADLY !


    Ah sure he might go easy on us then! :pac:


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