Irish Rugby and Sevens

The Lost Sheep

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

It does show the issue with the qualification stages to get to the World Series. We narrowly lose to Japan and as a result, can't qualify. Our skillset clearly shows that over a year in a points ranking system, we would breeze our way into the World Series. Sevens is a cruel game. Any team can be beaten over the course of 14 minutes. It's the beauty of it. But it's a poor barometer for a season of effort.

What do you do to change the qualification process to then?
Theyre not going to change things so more than one side are relegated and sides outside the core teams can get invited to several tournaments,
We will likely get invited to 2 or 3 tournaments next seasons series especially if we do well in world cup.

arsebiscuits1

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

What do you do to change the qualification process to then?
Theyre not going to change things so more than one side are relegated and sides outside the core teams can get invited to several tournaments,
We will likely get invited to 2 or 3 tournaments next seasons series especially if we do well in world cup.

Well the World Series is decided on ranking points over the course of the season.

Why not establish a similar system on the lower tier leagues?

Rigor Mortis

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Well the World Series is decided on ranking points over the course of the season.

Why not establish a similar system on the lower tier leagues?

Actually, that is a really good point. It may seem like sour grapes, but its much better to judge performance over a couple of events rather than just one 14 minute game

shotgunmcos

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

Actually, that is a really good point. It may seem like sour grapes, but its much better to judge performance over a couple of events rather than just one 14 minute game

I agree with this. The top performing team across the season or top of the league etc in a playoff against the bottom core team.


Knockout is cruel though and that's just how it is. One event, one chance, regardless if you dominated your level across the season. Kind like Georgia, only they don't even get a shot

Richie_Rich89

Pudsy33 wrote: »

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You don't have to pick forwards in the forwards. McNulty and Fitzpatrick are backs in 15s. Not sure about John O'Donnell but I think he plays in the backs as well??

I suppose there was Timoney. He was on the sprint relay team in Blackrock, so he's probably faster than most forwards in Ireland. You'd want to have serious wheels as a 15s forwards playing 7s, like Kwagga Smith, for example

arsebiscuits1

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

You don't have to pick forwards in the forwards. McNulty and Fitzpatrick are backs in 15s. Not sure about John O'Donnell but I think he plays in the backs as well??

I suppose there was Timoney. He was on the sprint relay team in Blackrock, so he's probably faster than most forwards in Ireland. You'd want to have serious wheels as a 15s forwards playing 7s, like Kwagga Smith, for example

Porridge Connors played 7s this season too

ArmchairQB

Great result but lucky enough to get to QF after only winning one group game we are still abit away and capable of one off great performances such as last weekend but a very positive stepnone the less

The Lost Sheep

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Well the World Series is decided on ranking points over the course of the season.

Why not establish a similar system on the lower tier leagues?

Costs to run that. Its regional below the world series so how do you do it with sides not playing each other

shotgunmcos wrote: »

I agree with this. The top performing team across the season or top of the league etc in a playoff against the bottom core team.

Knockout is cruel though and that's just how it is. One event, one chance, regardless if you dominated your level across the season. Kind like Georgia, only they don't even get a shot

It isnt straight knockout though so not that cruel. There is qualifying tournaments per region and then the final qualifier.

ScrubsfanChris

If its already been mentioned apologies, but I see Ireland are also competing at the Paris 7's this weekend.
They're in Pool C with Australia, Wales and Spain.

https://www.worldrugby.org/sevens-series/stage/1794/fixtures

The game against Wales is during the 15's game against Australia

irishbucsfan

More like Jordan gone-roy, am I right?

Rigor Mortis

14-5 win over spain in game one. Terrible game, 5-0 down at the half. Lots of handling errors from both teams.
5 changes to the team from last week. Looks like management are trying to build a bit of depth.
Aus destroyed Wales in the other match in the group

CIARAN_BOYLE

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

14-5 win over spain in game one. Terrible game, 5-0 down at the half. Lots of handling errors from both teams.
5 changes to the team from last week. Looks like management are trying to build a bit of depth.
Aus destroyed Wales in the other match in the group

I think the management are trying to use most of the 20 man training group they have for 7s.

We need the depth.

Rigor Mortis

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I think the management are trying to use most of the 20 man training group they have for 7s.

We need the depth.

Makes sense. These invites are great for morale and building interest in the game, but the really important part is building experience and squad depth. I'd happily sacrafice a qtr final spot to blood some more talent. We have big days ahead.

wp_rathead

irishbucsfan wrote: »

More like Jordan gone-roy, am I right?

Go sit outside and no TV privileges for the day

Rigor Mortis

Massive win for Spain v Oz

Rigor Mortis

draw v wales, fair result but we gave away an awful try to let them get level.

Squidgy Black

Kenya just beat Fiji, huge upset.

allylands

What time is our game at?

connachta

now, no stream i can find

ScrubsfanChris

Conroy looks badly injured...

ScrubsfanChris

14-7 to Ireland at half time

ScrubsfanChris

Atleast one Irish team can beat the Aussies today.
Ireland 24-14 Australia

Ireland are into the Cup Quarter finals again.

Faugheen

It really has been an excellent couple of weeks for the 7s lads. Phenomenal work.

shotgunmcos

I had my doubts but hoped. Then Conroy out. Feic! But wow its not all about Conroy, its the team. Great result against Australia. Feel a bit better seeing that after the 15s earlier.

It will be USA or England in the quarters

connachta

Adam Leavy is another Connacht ex-Leinster road-runner!

Faugheen

shotgunmcos wrote: »

I had my doubts but hoped. Then Conroy out. Feic! But wow its not all about Conroy, its the team. Great result against Australia. Feel a bit better seeing that after the 15s earlier.

It will be USA or England in the quarters

Scotland or South Africa no?

sydthebeat

What time are the quarters lads?

shotgunmcos

Faugheen wrote: »

Scotland or South Africa no?

Canada.
Yeah I had it wrong

The other Cup QFs
Eng v Fij
SA v Spain
USA v NZ

The Lost Sheep

sydthebeat wrote: »

What time are the quarters lads?

Trophy quarters are first. Our game is at 9.35am

ScrubsfanChris

We'll be up against England or Fiji in semi if we beat Canada.