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Irish Rugby and Sevens

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    #212
    The Lost Sheep
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    FellasFellas wrote: »
    To be honest, I think tag is the biggest waste of time in a rugby development sense, thats my opinion. I played mini rugby and there was not a hint of tag involved when I was 5/6; it was contact all the way up. I don't see how pushing tag is a good idea when it basically has been firmly established as a social thing for Big 4 to play after work on a Wednesday. People who play tag and take it as seriously as the RWC final are literally the dregs at the bottom of the rugby union teacup. Forcing kids to play tag will lead them to be warier of contact and will feel uncomfortable when being forced to play it. It's hard enough keeping kids interested when you're coaching them as a group and half of them have played before and half of them haven't and you have to go back to square one and teach them how to tackle, can you imagine how difficult it would be to coach every single child how to tackle because all they've done is swipe at tags in their formative years? What exactly are 'the aspects of tag'? I find it very hard to agree that the aspects of tag rugby will make the Wilson's Hospital U13C team a better defensive unit than NZ circa 05.
    I disagree and having been involved in using it in introducing the sport to kids in primary schools.
    Bit in red is very harsh and playing tag doesnt make you wary of contact but is great at helping players avoid it in the best manner. Ideally people would be playing touch rugby(proper touch) but tag is next best.


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    #213
    RichieRich89
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    Shaun Johnson, possibly the best stepper in the world in league or union, plays a lot of touch rugby


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    #214
    The Lost Sheep
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    The Ireland Women's 7s squad for Stage 5 of World Rugby Women's Sevens Series has been named by Director of Women's and 7s Rugby Anthony Eddy. The tournament takes place in Langford, Canada on Saturday 27th and Sunday 28th of May.

    The team finished in 9th place at the Kitakyushu 7s in Japan, and are in 9th place in the overall standings.
    Ireland's Pool C opponents in Langford are Australia, Fiji and Spain.
    Ashleigh Baxter (Cooke RFC/Ulster)
    Chloe Blackmore (St.Mary's College RFC/Munster)
    Claire Keohane (UL Bohemian RFC/Munster)
    Stacey Flood (Railway Union RFC/Leinster)
    Kim Flood (Railway Union RFC/Leinster)
    Louise Galvin (UL Bohemian RFC/Munster)
    Katie Heffernan (Mullingar RFC/Railway Union RFC (dual status) /Leinster)
    Anna McGann (UCD RFC/Leinster)
    Lucy Mulhall (Rathdrum RFC/Leinster) (captain)
    Amee-Leigh Murphy-Crowe (Railway Union RFC/Munster)
    Sene Naoupu (Aylesford Bulls)
    Audrey O'Flynn (Ireland Sevens Programme)
    Hannah Tyrrell (Old Belvedere RFC/Leinster)


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    #215
    The Lost Sheep
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    A Mens side playing in Amsterdam this weekend.
    Won 2 of their 3 pool games
    Wolfhounds beat Dutch side Flashing Oemie 59-7, they lost 24-14 to the Chinese Shandong side and beat an international vii side, Dambusters, 66-0

    Womens teams first game is in an hour or so


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    #216
    The Lost Sheep
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    Ladies team in pool stages last night beat Fiji 19-14, lost to Australia 21-0 and beat Spain 21-0 to qualify for Cup Quarter finals where they lost this evening to France 19-5. They then entered 5th to 8th playoffs losing to Russia 17-0 and will play England in 7th/8th playoff in an hours time

    Mens team won the Plate Competition in the Amterdam 7s. They beat Latvian side Transact Pro 24-5, Alkmaar Hunters 45-0 and then beat MYPROTEIN Lemurs 7s 42-0 in the final


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    #217
    The Lost Sheep
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    Ladies beat England 14-10, first win over England in 7s, to finish 7th

    Mens grand prix series starts next weekend
    Ireland face Wales, Germany and Georgia in group stage


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    #218
    wp_rathead
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    IRELAND MEN'S SEVENS Squad (2017 Rugby Europe Sevens Grand Prix Series - Round 1, Oktyabr Stadium, Moscow, Russia, Saturday, June 3-Sunday, June 4):

    Fionn Carr (Naas)
    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers)
    Billy Dardis (UCD) (capt)
    Ian Fitzpatrick (Lansdowne/Leinster)
    Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster)
    Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
    Mick McGrath (Clontarf)
    Harry McNulty (UCD)
    Jimmy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster)
    John O'Donnell (Lansdowne)
    Mark Roche (Lansdowne)
    Nick Timoney (Queen's University Belfast/Ulster)

    IRELAND MEN'S SEVENS Fixtures -

    Saturday, June 3 - Pool A:

    Wales v Ireland, Oktyabr Stadium, 10am local time/8am Irish time
    Germany v Ireland, Oktyabr Stadium, 1.07pm local time/11.07am Irish time
    Georgia v Ireland, Oktyabr Stadium, 3.52pm local time/1.52pm Irish time


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    #219
    brocbrocach
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    wp_rathead wrote: »
    IRELAND MEN'S SEVENS Squad (2017 Rugby Europe Sevens Grand Prix Series - Round 1, Oktyabr Stadium, Moscow, Russia, Saturday, June 3-Sunday, June 4):

    Fionn Carr (Naas)
    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers)
    Billy Dardis (UCD) (capt)
    Ian Fitzpatrick (Lansdowne/Leinster)
    Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster)
    Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
    Mick McGrath (Clontarf)
    Harry McNulty (UCD)
    Jimmy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster)
    John O'Donnell (Lansdowne)
    Mark Roche (Lansdowne)
    Nick Timoney (Queen's University Belfast/Ulster)

    IRELAND MEN'S SEVENS Fixtures -

    Saturday, June 3 - Pool A:

    Wales v Ireland, Oktyabr Stadium, 10am local time/8am Irish time
    Germany v Ireland, Oktyabr Stadium, 1.07pm local time/11.07am Irish time
    Georgia v Ireland, Oktyabr Stadium, 3.52pm local time/1.52pm Irish time

    Wow, that's scarily Leinster dominated. Has the sport got any presence outside of the capital or does the training require that the players get together very regularly, or what?


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    #220
    The Lost Sheep
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    brocbrocach wrote: »
    Wow, that's scarily Leinster dominated. Has the sport got any presence outside of the capital or does the training require that the players get together very regularly, or what?
    Every player in the squad is actually from Leinster bar Harry McNulty as Jordan Conroy is from Tullamore but moved to play higher level of rugby with Buccs and Timoney is a Dub
    By presence what do you mean? Its the same everywhere. 7s isnt played bar end of season tournaments and very socially
    Normally there has been a few exiles and a few Munster or Ulster players in squads but just not this time round


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    #221
    brocbrocach
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Every player in the squad is actually from Leinster bar Harry McNulty as Jordan Conroy is from Tullamore but moved to play higher level of rugby with Buccs and Timoney is a Dub
    By presence what do you mean? Its the same everywhere. 7s isnt played bar end of season tournaments and very socially
    Normally there has been a few exiles and a few Munster or Ulster players in squads but just not this time round

    By presence what I mean is I thought there'd be an effort at organising tournaments, club selections etc. Surely there must be some basis for picking these particular players over other other AIL or academy lads.
    It's surprising that hasn't happened especially in Ulster with Olympic funding presumably being made available


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    #222
    The Lost Sheep
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    brocbrocach wrote: »
    By presence what I mean is I thought there'd be an effort at organising tournaments, club selections etc.
    Effort by who?
    There is plenty of 7s tournaments between end of April and Middle/end July
    Kinsale 7s, Dublin 7s, 7s in the city(in athlone - Buccaneers), marble 7s Kilkenny, Midnight 7s Tullamore, Connemara 7s.
    When you say club selections you mean?


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    #223
    brocbrocach
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Effort by who?
    There is plenty of 7s tournaments between end of April and Middle/end July
    Kinsale 7s, Dublin 7s, 7s in the city(in athlone - Buccaneers), marble 7s Kilkenny, Midnight 7s Tullamore, Connemara 7s.
    When you say club selections you mean?

    Is it not an international selection?


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    #224
    The Lost Sheep
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    brocbrocach wrote: »
    Is it not an international selection?
    Sorry what? First you said club selection now you are saying international
    What are you trying to say?


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    #225
    brocbrocach
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Sorry what? First you said club selection now you are saying international
    What are you trying to say?

    You have a strange way of discussing things. It's all yours.


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    #226
    The Lost Sheep
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    brocbrocach wrote: »
    By presence what I mean is I thought there'd be an effort at organising tournaments, club selections etc. Surely there must be some basis for picking these particular players over other other AIL or academy lads.
    It's surprising that hasn't happened especially in Ulster with Olympic funding presumably being made available
    Obviously there is basis for picking them....:rolleyes:
    They want to play 7s, coaches see 7s suiting them...
    What do you mean by effort at organising tournaments? Who do you want to do that?
    There is, like i mentioned in previous posts, plenty of club 7s tournaments in the off season.
    What do you mean by club selections??
    Why do you just mention Ulster about Olympic funding? Why are they different to other provinces??
    brocbrocach wrote: »
    You have a strange way of discussing things. It's all yours.
    You first were going on about international selection then club selection? What exactly did you mean by that?


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    #227
    The Lost Sheep
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    Ireland beat Wales 26-5 in first game


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    #228
    The Lost Sheep
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    And lost to Germany in game 2. 28-21
    Play Georgia next.


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    #229
    The Lost Sheep
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    Ireland beat Georgia 19-13. Finished 2nd in pool. Play Portugal in quarters tomorrow


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    #230
    Kiwi_knock
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    Into the final against Spain after beating Portugal (19-17) and Russia (28-21). Will finish the highest placed of the teams hoping to qualify for the World Series

    Final is on at 15:08 (Irish time) and you can watch online at the Rugby Europe website http://www.rugbyeurope.eu/live-moscow-sevens-2017-round-1-sevens-grand-prix-series-2017


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    #231
    TheAnalyst_
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    This is our best ever sevens performance if I'm not mistaken.


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    #232
    Kiwi_knock
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    7-0 up at half time, Fionn Carr with the try. Good performance so far, had to do a lot of defending at the start.


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    #233
    connemara man
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    12-0 up now great try started with a half break from their own in goal area


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    #234
    connemara man
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    And that's the final score


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    #235
    TheAnalyst_
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    Great stuff. What does that mean now for the next step ie sevens series and olympics?


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    #236
    Kiwi_knock
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    Great performance and great result. Only watched this match and the Russia match but things look promising for the team over the next few legs of the series.


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    #237
    The Lost Sheep
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    TheAnalyst_ wrote:
    Great stuff. What does that mean now for the next step ie sevens series and olympics?
    This is round 1 of series. Need to win overall or just be one of the top 2 teams who are not part of the world series already and if we are we enter qualifying tournament for the world series which is played in Hong Kong on HK 7s weekend.
    We can also qualify for next years 7s world cup if we finish in top 2 of sides not already qualified for that

    Round 2 is in Poland next weekend. Then week off then next round is in Clermont Ferrond and then a few weeks off before the final round which wll be played in Exeter


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    #238
    RichieRich89
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    Who was the tall guy with the ponytail wearing 10 in the final? Nick Timoney?


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    #239
    stellenbosch
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    RichieRich89 wrote: »
    Who was the tall guy with the ponytail wearing 10 in the final? Nick Timoney?

    McNulty


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    #240
    The Lost Sheep
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    Ireland beat Poland 28-10 and Germany 26-7. Last pool game is against Portugal.


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    #241
    connemara man
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    12-0 up at halftime vs England today


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