Real numbers for the budget

aurelius79

Well, I looked through the actual numbers and was pretty surprised at the increase in government spending so I added it all up and rearranged the order just to highlight what the government's priorities are when it come to dishing out the cash. Pretty interesting to see the choices Lenihan made. Enjoy.

Revenue source|2009|2010|Change
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VAT| 10.64 bil| 10.46 bil|
Income tax|11.81 bil| 11.98 bil|
Customs & excise, stamp duty|5.64 bil| 4.72 bil|
Corporation tax|3.79 bil| 3.21 bil|
Capital gains/aquisitions tax| 845 mil|580 mil|
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Expenditure increases per department|||
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Social and Family Affairs| 10.62 bil|13.59 bil| +2.97 bil
Enterprise, Trade & Employment| 976.11 mil| 1.11 bil| +134 mil
Defense| 763.26 mil| 765.40 mil| +2.14 mil
Environment, Heritage & Local Govt.| 847.48 mil|893.94 mil| +46.46 mil
Transport|530.72 mil| 581.09 mil|+50.37 mil
Justice, Equality & Law Reform| 422.85 mil|425.63 mil|+2.78 mil
Arts, Sport & Tourism| 390.32 mil|391.75 mil|+1.47 mil
Superannuation & Retired Allowances| 333.73 mil|396.75 mil|+63.02 mil
Prisons| 318.72 mil|322.32 mil|+3.6 mil
Office of Public Works|260.05 mil|282.76 mil|+22.71 mil
Foreign Affairs| 187.52 mil| 196.99 mil|+9.47 mil
Office of Minister of Finance|64.41 mil|75.37 mil|+10.96 mil
Courts Service|45.86 mil|63.07 mil|+17.21 mil
Central Stats Office|49.67 mil|63.86 mil|+14.19 mil
Dir. of Public Prosecution's Office|44.67 mil|46.12 mil|+1.45 mil
Chief State Solicitor's Office|33.47 mil|40.13 mil|+6.66 mil
Property Registration Authority| 35.98 mil|37.89 mil|+1.91 mil
Dept. of Taoiseach|28.70 mil|32.70 mil|+4 mil
Office of Attorney Gen.|16.43 mil|17.36 mil|+0.93 mil
Public Appointment's Service| 9.85 mil|12.96 mil|+3.11 mil
Valuation's Office|8.66 mil|10.91 mil|+2.25 mil
State Laboratory| 8.75 mil| 9.88 mil|+1.13 mil
National Gallery|8.66 mil|8.95 mil|+0.29 mil
Office of the Ombudsman| 7.16 mil|8.19 mil|+1.03 mil
Commission for Public Service Appts.|98 mil| 1.21 mil|+0.23 mil
Charitable Donations and Bequests|.39 mil|.45 mil|+0.06 mil
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|Total spending increase over last year:|- 3.371 billion|
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HSE|11.45 bil|11.08 bil|- 370 mil
Education and Science|8.046 bil| 8.032 bil|- 14 mil
Garda Siochana| 1.471 bil| 1.469 bil|-2 mil
Agriculture & Food| 1.04 bil|985.16 mil|- 54.84 mil
International Co-operation| 567.64 mil|535.35 mil|-32.29 mil
Health & Children|450.72 mil| 444.96 mil| - 5.76 mil
Office of Revenue Commissioners| 395.96 mil| 385.93 mil|- 10.03 mil
Office of Ministry for Children| 384.17 mil| 322.17 mil| - 62 mil
Dept. of Community, Rural & Gaeltacht 329.71 mil|329.71 mil|322.30 mil| - 7.41 mil
Army Pensions| 209.20 mil| 202 mil|- 7.2 mil
Comms, Marine & Nat. Resource|117.17 mil|112.97 mil|- 4.2 mil
Office of Comptroller & Auditor General| 7.47 mil| 7.11 mil| - 0.36 mil
President's establishment| 3.42 mil| 3.41 mil|- 0.01 mil
Office of Comptroller & Auditor General| 7.47 mil| 7.11 mil|- 0.36 mil
Secret Service|0.90 mil|0.70 mil|- 0.20 mil
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|Total savings over last year:|+570.66 mil|
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Other Expenditures|||
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Service of National Debt.|2.664 bil|4.617 bil|+1.953 bil
Sinking Fund| 573 mil| 617 mil| +44 mil
Debt Management Expenses|113 mil|123 mil| +10 mil
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Contribution to EU Budget| 1.495 bil|1.540 bil| +45 mil
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Salaries and Pensions - Other*| 50 mil| 51 mil|+1 mil


*Salaries and Pensions for judiciary & Holders of Constitutional Office & Pensions and Allowances for certain members or former members of the Oireachtas

aurelius79

Well that didn't work too well. Anyone know how to get the text to appear as it is in Word? The spacing isn't working right. =\

starbelgrade

Office of Minister of Finance 64.41 mil 75.37 mil +10.96 mil

Nice to see him increasing spending there whilst cutting Cowen's salary!

starbelgrade

aurelius79 wrote: »

Well that didn't work too well. Anyone know how to get the text to appear as it is in Word? =\

Nope.. though I was wondering why it was so hard to read! The IT boys should fix it for you when they start work at mid-day.

aurelius79

Strange nobody seems to have an opinion about the massive increase in governmental spending in departments such as Social Welfare (extra 3 bil although unemployment is meant to be levelling off?), courts, OPW (extra 22 mil), Central Statistics Office (why do they need an extra 14 mil on top of the 50 mil they got last year?) Office of Minister for Finance (up 11 mil from last year), Transport (up 50 mil).

We're going to be spending over 3 bil more than last year in governmental departments, while only half a billion of spending has been cut in vital areas like Science and Education, Agriculture, Ministry for Children, etc. It really doesn't make sense to me.

aurelius79

Bumped for truth about the budget! There's actually a massive increase in spending by the government next year, almost three and a half billion over last year!!

jaffa20

What are your sources for this?

aurelius79

jaffa20 wrote: »

What are your sources for this?

The actual budget whitepaper pdf.

"Estimates of receipts and expenditures for the year ending 31 December 2010"

http://www.budget.gov.ie/Budgets/2010/Documents/whitepaperfin2010.pdf

I calculated the actual expenditures and cuts and rearranged them in order to show what the government are prioritizing next year and what departments got cuts. Feel free to check my math.

ei.sdraob

we have a secret service? what do they do??

anyways

Service of National Debt: 2.664 bil (2009) / 4.617 bil (2010) / +1.953 bil increase

here you go, this is the result of borrowing to pay for fat and beards, ALOT of money going out for nothing what a waste

Count Dooku

The most useless departments got increase, while the most important got decrease in funding

Dr Galen

ei.sdraob wrote: »

we have a secret service? what do they do??

loads of stuff, but it's a secret and if I told you.............:cool:

aurelius79

ei.sdraob wrote: »

we have a secret service? what do they do??

anyways



here you go, this is the result of borrowing to pay for fat and beards, ALOT of money going out for nothing what a waste

Exactly. Now add the 1.5 billion we are paying to the EU budget (up 45 million from last year). It just doesn't make much sense to be honest.

Sleepy

It also shows something I strongly suspected - that the budget was complete stupid in it's assumptions of revenues and didn't make half enough meaningful cuts. If I were minister for finance, virtually every department would be in the 'reductions in spending column'. The only areas we can't cut spending in are welfare (because of the increas in numbers signing on...)

Now answer me this Mr Lenihan (or anyone else in the know):

1. How are VAT returns going to stable in a recessionary, deflationary period ?
2. How are Income Taxes going to rise when people are still losing jobs? (a lot of the decline in numbers joining the live register recently would have been due to seasonal work).
3. How is the Property Registrations Office going to cost us more when there's next to no development happening?

Most importanly: how much of those raises are related to increments for staff living in a deflationary period?

aurelius79

Exactly. See, when you look at the actual numbers and ignore the media spin and statistics, you'll see that we are just being lied to again and again.

gurramok

aurelius79 wrote: »

Exactly. See, when you look at the actual numbers and ignore the media spin and statistics, you'll see that we are just being lied to again and again.

In case you have not noticed, tens of thousands(including my sis) who were unemployed went back to education in Sep/Oct on third level courses and Fas courses while retaining some if not all of their previous rates of jobseekers.

They still have those entitlements as 'mature students' under another name, its called massaging statistics.

thebman

That doesn't look right. Where is the 4 billion in cuts?

Even if spending went up elsewhere they should at least have the 4 billion that they announced made.