Welfare Queries

ninty9er · 12-12-2009 12:24am #1

As my distinguished colleague has opened up to boards in relation to Education, I shall endeavour to answer your welfare questions here.

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cson · 12-12-2009 2:44am

Free johnnies for all!

skeleton_boy · 13-12-2009 12:28pm

Sticky such threads?

billy the squid · 13-12-2009 2:03pm

Why is the form for financial assistance fire engine red. don't you think it should be a more descrete colour like white?

ninty9er · 13-12-2009 9:41pm

The forms are coloured so that they can't be photocopied. The colour is different for semester 2. For filing purposes it's also handy that the form is distinctive from all the documentation accompanying it.

In any case, there is no requirement to fill the form out in a public place.

billy the squid · 13-12-2009 10:36pm

in seriousness though, the dark colour of the page makes it difficult to read.

just thought I would mention it.

ninty9er · 13-12-2009 10:50pm

billy the squid wrote: »

in seriousness though, the dark colour of the page makes it difficult to read.

just thought I would mention it.

Will keep that one in mind. Cheers.

billy the squid · 14-12-2009 7:48am

Now for my next challenge

Any chance you can get ULSU to find out the full and detailed story in relation to what is happening to the grant for BTEA recipients?

mud · 14-12-2009 10:54am

billy the squid wrote: »

Now for my next challenge

Any chance you can get ULSU to find out the full and detailed story in relation to what is happening to the grant for BTEA recipients?

Yep I'd love to know too.

From what I can find it seems I'll be ok as this applies to students entering the system in 2010, I would like it clarified though please*.

Cheers mud.

*I would also LOVE to see my grant soon but that's besides the point.

ninty9er · 14-12-2009 1:12pm

billy the squid wrote: »

Now for my next challenge

Any chance you can get ULSU to find out the full and detailed story in relation to what is happening to the grant for BTEA recipients?

I'm letting the dust settle on the civil servants, but from what I have heard from other sources within the University, BTEA will continue for those currently in receipt as normal. From September 2010 new BTEA recipients will not be eligible to draw down a grant. That is the situation as it stands today, however Budget 2011 may alter this.

mud wrote: »

Yep I'd love to know too.

From what I can find it seems I'll be ok as this applies to students entering the system in 2010, I would like it clarified though please*.

Cheers mud.

*I would also LOVE to see my grant soon but that's besides the point.

What grant authority are you dealing with?? The Governing Authority Access and Student Affairs Committee is currently investigating the issues around the delays for some students. Are you waiting on the 1st or 2nd payment, when did you receive confirmation of grant?

You can email that to me if you like. SUwelfare@ul.ie

mud · 14-12-2009 2:26pm

ninty9er wrote: »

I'm letting the dust settle on the civil servants, but from what I have heard from other sources within the University, BTEA will continue for those currently in receipt as normal. From September 2010 new BTEA recipients will not be eligible to draw down a grant. That is the situation as it stands today, however Budget 2011 may alter this.

What grant authority are you dealing with?? The Governing Authority Access and Student Affairs Committee is currently investigating the issues around the delays for some students. Are you waiting on the 1st or 2nd payment, when did you receive confirmation of grant?

You can email that to me if you like. SUwelfare@ul.ie

I'm dealing with Limerick CoCo. Had my application in well before the closing date. I've been ringing them on a weekly basis, all I hear is back-log back-log.

I appreciate that there's a back log but does it really take a month to give me final approval? (When I rang a month ago it was on the final approval desk, rang last week and it's still on the final approval desk)

I'm 12 grand under the threshold, and this is my first time going to 3rd level so it's pretty much a given that I'll get it. (i hope!)

Am literally living off beans and toast at the mo, Christmas is cancelled and there's been days when I couldn't afford the petrol to get in to college.

I'll send you a mail if/when I get final confirmation.

Cheers for replying though!

cson · 14-12-2009 4:46pm

Jesus all my joking about johnnies aside, I'll be calling into you for supplys any more Ninty - €5 for 3 in the SU! €5 for 3 rides.... :eek: you can get a similar deal in Prague if you know where to go, johnny included.... :pac:

Ah, spose its not bad for a lifetime supply though

alexcorb1991 · 14-12-2009 5:17pm

cson wrote: »

Jesus all my joking about johnnies aside, I'll be calling into you for supplys any more Ninty - €5 for 3 in the SU! €5 for 3 rides.... :eek: you can get a similar deal in Prague if you know where to go, johnny included.... :pac:

Ah, spose its not bad for a lifetime supply though

I thought they were free and it was an unwritten rule you make a donation?

ninty9er · 14-12-2009 5:45pm

cson wrote: »

Jesus all my joking about johnnies aside, I'll be calling into you for supplys any more Ninty - €5 for 3 in the SU! €5 for 3 rides.... :eek: you can get a similar deal in Prague if you know where to go, johnny included.... :pac:

Ah, spose its not bad for a lifetime supply though

alexcorb1991 wrote: »

I thought they were free and it was an unwritten rule you make a donation?

He means in the machine upstairs I imagine. The Mojos are free with an "obligatory" donation. We've raised over €300 so far, so keep on truckin guys.

cson · 14-12-2009 6:18pm

Nah, the SU Spar - extortionate!

ninty9er · 15-12-2009 12:47am

cson wrote: »

Nah, the SU Spar - extortionate!

They barely sell stock in 3 figures over an entire calendar year, not many people buy them.

cson · 15-12-2009 2:36am

ninty9er wrote: »

They barely sell stock in 3 figures over an entire calendar year, not many people buy them.

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

DJCR · 15-12-2009 6:46pm

cson wrote: »

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

Yes but the poor health system!! http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2009/09/04/story100115.asp:eek::eek::eek:

Look at what you've caused by asking for donations!!!

:D:D:D

ninty9er · 15-12-2009 11:24pm

Can we keep it civil now.;)

ninty9er · 16-12-2009 1:05pm

As emailed to students who contacted me directly:

I have clarified with the Dept. of Education that those already in receipt of BTEA and Higher Ed. Grant will continue to receive both, albeit at the new lower rates for both. Changes to the structure apply to new entrants only.
The Student Service Charge will be covered once the means test for the grant is satisfied, regardless of whether the applicant chooses Higher Ed. Grant or BTEA.

Gael23 · 19-12-2009 9:34pm

I will be starting first year in September and im almost sure that I will get BTEA. Will I get the registration fee paid still?

ninty9er · 20-12-2009 9:09pm

ryanf1 wrote: »

I will be starting first year in September and im almost sure that I will get BTEA. Will I get the registration fee paid still?

From what I've been told by the department, yes.

THEDUDEINWHITE · 21-12-2009 11:58pm

I was wondering is the Maintenance Grant paid out while we are off? Basically will I have it for Christmas!

ninty9er · 22-12-2009 12:14pm

P2 isn't ordinarily paid until January at the earliest.

THEDUDEINWHITE · 22-12-2009 1:12pm

Do you mean Part 2? If so I haven't received Part 1 yet?!

ninty9er · 17-02-2010 8:51pm

As Aoife has dropped a BUMP on her thread I may as well do the same for those of you that can't make it to the office.

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JellyBeana · 10-03-2010 5:25pm

Hi Derek,

I wondering what the story was with signing on during summer months? I'm a 24 year old first year with 5 years worth of stamps built up. I'm getting a grant but it barely covers anything and I'm looking for part time work but I'm not hearing anything back about any jobs I've applied for. If the worst comes to the worst and I still don't have a job by the time second semester is finished would I be able to sign on for the summer seeing as technically I'm available for full time work for those three months?

Best of luck in the elections btw

ninty9er · 11-03-2010 3:15am

JellyBeana wrote: »

Hi Derek,

I wondering what the story was with signing on during summer months? I'm a 24 year old first year with 5 years worth of stamps built up. I'm getting a grant but it barely covers anything and I'm looking for part time work but I'm not hearing anything back about any jobs I've applied for. If the worst comes to the worst and I still don't have a job by the time second semester is finished would I be able to sign on for the summer seeing as technically I'm available for full time work for those three months?

Best of luck in the elections btw

Unless you are in receipt of BTEA you generally can't sign on for the summer. This may differ for mature students so I will check it out and get back to you when I get a reply.

snazzy · 11-03-2010 9:35pm

Derek, I've a query I thought would be better addressed to you though I know it's not strictly to do with Welfare so I'll spoiler it in case anyone thinks it should be removed. This could just be horrible hearsay.

Talking to someone today and we were talking about who we had voted for and we both said we'd voted for you.
Then the other person said " That was before I found out what his supporters did in the Lodge last night."
So I asked what they meant and they said that apparently a group of your supporters surrounded Nick Ryan [or some of his supporters, not sure] and there was a bit of a scuffle.

Now I don't know the validity of this statement or their source and i didn't go saying it to anyone else but thought I'd mention it and find out the validity of this statement.

ninty9er · 11-03-2010 10:18pm

snazzy wrote: »

Derek, I've a query I thought would be better addressed to you though I know it's not strictly to do with Welfare so I'll spoiler it in case anyone thinks it should be removed. This could just be horrible hearsay.
Talking to someone today and we were talking about who we had voted for and we both said we'd voted for you.
Then the other person said " That was before I found out what his supporters did in the Lodge last night."
So I asked what they meant and they said that apparently a group of your supporters surrounded Nick Ryan [or some of his supporters, not sure] and there was a bit of a scuffle.

Now I don't know the validity of this statement or their source and i didn't go saying it to anyone else but thought I'd mention it and find out the validity of this statement.

I can't guarantee what did or didn't happen as I left the lodge shortly after 1:30, but I didn't hear anything this morning

Concy · 11-03-2010 11:28pm

ninty9er wrote: »

He means in the machine upstairs I imagine. The Mojos are free with an "obligatory" donation. We've raised over €300 so far, so keep on truckin guys.

It dispicable that students should have to contribute for these to a SU that recieves a serious amount of money every year. A friend of mine suggested that it happened to him and he was quite intimidated by the 'tapping of the jar'. This friend of mine is from a disadvantaged area in Dublin and said he actually didnt have the money to buy his own, hence he went to the SU to recieve them for "free".

Maybe our so called Welfare Officer might like to give a small fortune of his 26,000 salary instead of cash strapped students if he is so concerned about raising money??

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