Oddities of Irish Infrastructure

Lifelike

MYOB wrote: »

Since the motorway - 13 years this year I think.

But I remember being on it a few years back.

Tech3

unit 1 wrote: »

Anyone seen this http://www.flickr.com/photos/hsinchujohn/3585734914/

Where did the funding from this bridge come from? Could have spent 20 million more wisely but I could say that about a dozen things FF have done during the noughties.

Lifelike

tech2 wrote: »

Where did the funding from this bridge come from? Could have spent 20 million more wisely but I could say that about a dozen things FF have done during the noughties.

Don't forget the state-of-the-art electronic voting machines :rolleyes:

Roryhy

Dublin bus numbers follow the system used in the days of the horse-drawn tram, which ran from the city centre outwards in a clockwise direction from south to north.

Mountjoy Square is the only real square in Dublin, measuring 600 feet in length and width

Dublin's oldest traffic lights are situated beside the Renault garage in Clontarf. The lights, which are still in full working order, were installed in 1893 outside the home of Fergus Mitchell, who was the owner of the first car in Ireland.

Henry Moore, Earl of Drogheda lived in Dublin in the eighteenth century. His job was naming streets. He called several after himself - Henry Street, Moore Street, Earl Street and Drogheda Street, which later became Sackville Street and is now O'Connell Street.

Irish and Proud

tech2 wrote: »

Where did the funding from this bridge come from? Could have spent 20 million more wisely but I could say that about a dozen things FF have done during the noughties.

...not to mention that this bridge @ 340m in length was not exactly highlighted in media or government circles!!!

Wonder why? :rolleyes:

Must say it's a nice bridge though!

charlemont

m8 northbound at junction 13 signs for tipperary and limerick 51km thats correct for limerick but not tipp its 31km. old n8 r636 at new cork mart cork 38km wrong.. m8 junction 10 southbound 88km to cork wrong again.. too many chefs as they say:p

Trick of the Tail

Waterford: The newly-reopened road between New Rath (the old and for the moment still the Dublin Road) to Grannagh.

...passes under the new N25 with a headroom of only 2.8 metres!

Yikes!

At the moment they've got a very functional arrangement consisting of a couple of oil drums, two lengths of red conduit and some string and bits of red tape before it to indicate to taller vehicles of the impending doom, but this obviously (I hope) isn't permanent.

So what measures, I wonder, will preclude the (surely) inevitable collisions, and the hilarity that will result?

Andy.

Colmgogan

Here's one!

Spending 2-5 (Nobody really knows) Billion euro on a tunnel to join
Connolly and Heuston station when there is already a perfectly good existing tunnel doing exactly the same thing for free!!! Then IE's blatant avoiding of the question....
Mind Boggling...

murphaph

Colmgogan wrote: »

Here's one!

Spending 2-5 (Nobody really knows) Billion euro on a tunnel to join
Connolly and Heuston station when there is already a perfectly good existing tunnel doing exactly the same thing for free!!! Then IE's blatant avoiding of the question....
Mind Boggling...

The purpose of the Interconnector is not "to join Connolly and Heuston Stations" though. In fact, it doesn't do that as the portals to the tunnel are some distance from both stations. HTH.

crushproof

Please please please can a Mod stop the above arguement before it gets out of hand?? God knows how many times it's been covered on other threads!!

Heartbreak Hank

Newport Co. Tipperary is nowhere near a navigable waterway never mind its lack of a port.

Part of its East-West running mainstreet is called "Cork Road" even though you have to travel on a number of other roads before you get to a straightforward link to Cork.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Newport+Tipperary,+Ireland&sll=52.474876,-8.157204&sspn=0.026192,0.077162&gl=ca&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Newport,+County+North+Tipperary,+Ireland&z=14

Zebra3

Tara St stn is not on Tara St.

Phoenix Park stn is not in (or near with the intention of serving) the Phoenix Park.

And my favourite. Grand Canal Dock stn which is close to Lansdown Road stadium has to close on matchdays. What a joke. :mad:

Victor

Heartbreak Hank wrote: »

Newport Co. Tipperary is nowhere near a navigable waterway never mind its lack of a port.

Part of its East-West running mainstreet is called "Cork Road" even though you have to travel on a number of other roads before you get to a straightforward link to Cork.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Newport+Tipperary,+Ireland&sll=52.474876,-8.157204&sspn=0.026192,0.077162&gl=ca&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Newport,+County+North+Tipperary,+Ireland&z=14

Newport is An Port Nua. Port can also mean embankment, e.g. Port Laoise

http://www.englishirishdictionary.com/dictionary

"Tara Street" was "Tara Street and Georges Quay", but thats rather long and contains the name of an English king.

Heartbreak Hank

Victor wrote: »

Newport is An Port Nua. Port can also mean embankment, e.g. Port Laoise

The port nua thing came after Newport as far as I know. The town name was Tulach Sheasta fado fado.

Didn't know that about the embankment thing.

The N13 in Donegal...its the only National Primary route that has to stop/give way to a Regional road.

L1011

salonfire wrote: »

The N13 in Donegal...its the only National Primary route that has to stop/give way to a Regional road.

The N17 still gives way to the former N5 which is now a regional in Charlestown main street, doesn't it?

murphaph

MYOB wrote: »

The N17 still gives way to the former N5 which is now a regional in Charlestown main street, doesn't it?

Does the N11 still give way to that R road in Ferns on the bad bend heading out of the town southbound, or was that replaced with a mini roundabout? I highly doubt only one N road gives way to an R road tbh.

L1011

murphaph wrote: »

Does the N11 still give way to that R road in Ferns on the bad bend heading out of the town southbound, or was that replaced with a mini roundabout? I highly doubt only one N road gives way to an R road tbh.

Biggest roundabout they could squash in there; not quite a mini but it ain't full size either.

Loads of N-secondaries give way to R roads.

L1011

The N5 yields to Ballaghdeereen main street, come to think of it...

mysterious

Fintan Lawlor Avenue in Portlaoise meant to be an inner bypass in the 80s. What a mess of planning that was. The N7, had to turn right, then left and then swing around back onto the Dublin road with such messy junctions.

Actually despite a proper decent bypass of the town, this inner relief road still causes most of the traffic problems in the town today. And those f****ing ramps. It's actually insane the amount of ramps on it"

Now retail developments sprang up either side. Makes Portlaois look like a mini LA style town. Horrible planning.:(

The oddest part of all this they slapped up a pedestrian crossing beside the walk over bridge...

Enbee

Colmgogan wrote: »

Here's one!

Spending 2-5 (Nobody really knows) Billion euro on a tunnel to join
Connolly and Heuston station when there is already a perfectly good existing tunnel doing exactly the same thing for free!!! Then IE's blatant avoiding of the question....
Mind Boggling...

You can read several critiques of this well-intentioned (but ultimately short-termist) proposal here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055663565

Lifelike

Enbee wrote: »

You can read several critiques of this well-intentioned (but ultimately short-termist) proposal here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055663565

They should open the Phoenix Park tunnel, but not as a replacement for the Interconnector. The main reason for that tunnel is to relieve congestion on the Loop Line Bridge.

Trick of the Tail

Clonmel, Co. Tipp, these signs are facing each other and point to the same road:





Spot the 'deliberate' mistake?



Andy.

Trick of the Tail

murphaph wrote: »

Abandoned motorways are almost unheard of in Ireland.

Here's one:





Guess where!

A.

Jayuu

Is this part of the Balbriggan by-pass? I can see a sign for the M1 business park in the background.

Trick of the Tail

Yep, thats a good clue. Thats the bit referred to in the post I quoted; Runs from the R132 towards the present site of J5, on the eastern side of the M1.

Seems to have been taken over by the farmer to store/dump his old machinery! Looks a bit eerie though when you look along it.

A.

Typewriter

EDIT: Yeah what he said.

Pot Noodle =

There is half of a railway bridge over the strawberry beds what happened to the rest of it

Bluetonic

alinton wrote: »

Guess where!

A.

Same place as described in post #33 not to mention the post you were quoting was a link to a map of the road!!

L1011

Pot wrote:

There is half of a railway bridge over the strawberry beds what happened to the rest of it

Not railway.

Was used to carry power cables from a hydro station and for staff access to Farmleigh.

Pot Noodle =

MYOB wrote: »

Not railway.

Was used to carry power cables from a hydro station and for staff access to Farmleigh.

Farmliegh is miles away and where was the hydro station

Judgement Day

Pot wrote:

Farmliegh is miles away and where was the hydro station

Not a rail bridge - details here: http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:49VREt_CtmMJ:www.fingalcoco.ie/YourLocalCouncil/AboutFingal/OtherServices/Architects/PublicBuildings/FileDownload,22093,en.pdf+strawberry+beds+bridge&hl=en&gl=ie&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjAuzXeUtDFFfHksMgyeOqblfQ_nOVc-oSVSU-HySbjYTQFpPf_jFgCJr8gJuB9ZVRFJS-H03sDljLr1ugoalrwi6VEsy-EsjEgZ3Y4VGc2755ZP6vsxc6wGF702M72CeQPZirt&sig=AHIEtbS1dhnGdg3B1Lury4hXwT_dYWx--g

Trick of the Tail

alinton wrote: »

Clonmel, Co. Tipp, these signs are facing each other and point to the same road:





Spot the 'deliberate' mistake?



Andy.

Did no-one get this?

Powerstown ROAD Park / Powerstown PARK Road !

A.

corktina

alinton wrote: »

Did no-one get this?

Powerstown ROAD Park / Powerstown PARK Road !

A.

TWO deliberate mistakes surely....an extra H (or one missing...)

Trick of the Tail

Ha oh yea! Didn't notice that!

A.

corktina

alinton wrote: »

Ha oh yea! Didn't notice that!

A.

s'ok I didn't notice the parkroadpark bit at first...

L1011

Pot wrote:

Farmliegh is miles away and where was the hydro station

On the Liffey.

And while Farmleigh is miles away, people used to walk very long distances to work in those days, and it was a shorter way across the river than going to Chapeliziod.

Pot Noodle =

was it nothing to do with Guinness castle near by

richardjjd

MYOB wrote: »

On the Liffey.

And while Farmleigh is miles away, people used to walk very long distances to work in those days, and it was a shorter way across the river than going to Chapeliziod.

As the crow flies, Farmleigh Bridge is just 0.5km from Farmleigh House.

jmkennedyie

(As richardjjd has just posted) Farmleigh is not miles away.

Footpaths from Palmersto(w)n Mills over this bridge to Farmleigh can be seen in historic 25 inch map - tick the bottom right box:

http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,709000,735971,6

L1011

Pot wrote:

was it nothing to do with Guinness castle near by

The 'Guinness castle near by' IS Farmleigh.

Pot Noodle =

No there is a tiny castle opposite Mount Sackville was owned by a Guinness up for sale a couple of years ago

The J Stands for Jay

salonfire wrote: »

The N13 in Donegal...its the only National Primary route that has to stop/give way to a Regional road.

Whereabouts is that?

L1011

McGaggs wrote: »

Whereabouts is that?

Couple of KM north of Stranorlar, the regional road to Raphoe takes priority at a T junction.

John C

MYOB wrote: »

Couple of KM north of Stranorlar, the regional road to Raphoe takes priority at a T junction.

Would this regional road be the R236?

L1011

Yes. Wasn't bothered to check a map originally.

Danno

salonfire wrote: »

The N13 in Donegal...its the only National Primary route that has to stop/give way to a Regional road.

The old N8 has now become the N77 between Durrow and Portlaoise, and the R639 between Durrow and Cork. In Durrow, to stay on the N77 southbound one has to leave the mainline or else it becomes the R639 at the square. Northbound on the N77 you have to stop at the square, join the R639 which becomes the N77 once more a few metres along the road!

L1011

Plenty of national secondaries yield to R roads, think we actually went over this before - although before the N77 got extended!

John C

MYOB wrote: »

Plenty of national secondaries yield to R roads, think we actually went over this before - although before the N77 got extended!

From N51 is a national secondary road, thus N77 is a national secondary.

N Road number < 50 is a national primary road. Currently the highest is N33
from Ardee, County Louth to M1 motorway.
Thus N13 is national primary road.

Yes there were posts about national secondary roads yielding to regional roads.

nordydan

Danno wrote: »

The old N8 has now become the N77 between Durrow and Portlaoise, and the R639 between Durrow and Cork. In Durrow, to stay on the N77 southbound one has to leave the mainline or else it becomes the R639 at the square. Northbound on the N77 you have to stop at the square, join the R639 which becomes the N77 once more a few metres along the road!

There were plans for a N77 Durrow bypass:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055015844

No idea where they are now!