Liverpool vs. Arsenal 13/12/09 (MOD NOTE: #119 and OP)

Nemanja91 · 13-12-2009 5:46pm

aurelio should off been sent off

mayordenis · 13-12-2009 5:47pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

aurelio should off been sent off

Here stop posting nonsense please. Every single post in this thread by you is drivel.

NukaCola · 13-12-2009 5:47pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

aurelio should off been sent off

Are you a ref??

monkey9 · 13-12-2009 5:47pm

So we're one up. This is the most dangerous moments in the game to us recently. We play well, are generally on top, go one nil up and then just stop playing!!

Nemanja91 · 13-12-2009 5:47pm

bayviewclose wrote: »

what about the penalty we had turned down

it wasn't a penalty, it would have been if gerrard didn't pull off his usual jump and throw hands in the air while looking back at the ref at the same time

monkey9 · 13-12-2009 5:48pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

aurelio should off been sent off

No he shouldn't have. Next!!

Xavi6 · 13-12-2009 5:49pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

andre marriner = 4th official = lukas and carraghers best frien

Nemanja91 wrote: »

aurelio should off been sent off

Nemanja91 wrote: »

it wasn't a penalty, it would have been if gerrard didn't pull off his usual jump and throw hands in the air while looking back at the ref at the same time

Ok you were warned.

DO NOT post in this thread again or you will be banned for a week.

This is your first and only warning.

Spiritoftheseventies · 13-12-2009 5:49pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

it wasn't a penalty, it would have been if gerrard didn't pull off his usual jump and throw hands in the air while looking back at the ref at the same time

Radio crowd pretty sure it was. Ill be checking later for verification

NukaCola · 13-12-2009 5:49pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

it wasn't a penalty, it would have been if gerrard didn't pull off his usual jump and throw hands in the air while looking back at the ref at the same time

More drival

GLaDOS · 13-12-2009 5:49pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

it wasn't a penalty, it would have been

Que?

mayordenis · 13-12-2009 5:49pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

it wasn't a penalty, it would have been if gerrard didn't pull off his usual jump and throw hands in the air while looking back at the ref at the same time

More ****e.

Kess73 · 13-12-2009 5:50pm

Very familiar story so far. Big game and Rafa gets his Dirk out to get a goal.:D

kenon · 13-12-2009 5:50pm

Decent half from Liverpool. Arsenal don't look dangerous at all.

jebidiah · 13-12-2009 5:50pm

defo a yellow card, maybe a warning first, it wasnt the closeline it was made out to be by the comentators

dannydiamond · 13-12-2009 5:50pm

Cracking 45mins, that's more like it lads!!

jaykay74 · 13-12-2009 5:51pm

Well done liverpool. good half. high tempo.

Gonzovision · 13-12-2009 5:51pm

Arsenal need to get a striker on and get some width on the pitch.

Joeyjoejoe43 · 13-12-2009 5:51pm

Liverpool well worth their lead to be fair. arsenal need to up their game in the 2nd half and show a lot more hunger

Holsten · 13-12-2009 5:51pm

Playing fantastic, if Torres was a bit sharper and the ref gave correct decisions it would be over already.

Harpy · 13-12-2009 5:52pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

it wasn't a penalty, it would have been if gerrard didn't pull off his usual jump and throw hands in the air while looking back at the ref at the same time

gerrard clearly got taken out, even if he did jump and throw his hands in the air how does that not make it a penalty.. is there now a standard penalty routine that you have to know in order to get a penalty?? gallas took gerrard out it doesn't matter what gerrard did when going down it doesn't change the fact that gallas clearly took him and got no where near the ball..

Sherifu · 13-12-2009 5:52pm

Should be ahead by more, playing well.

Glico Man · 13-12-2009 5:53pm

Very good performance so far from the pool

Arsenal look a bit toothless in attack but I'd definitely want a second

just in case

Glico Man · 13-12-2009 5:54pm

Harpy wrote: »

gerrard clearly got taken out, even if he did jump and throw his hands in the air how does that not make it a penalty.. is there now a standard penalty routine that you have to know in order to get a penalty?? gallas took gerrard out it doesn't matter what gerrard did when going down it doesn't change the fact that gallas clearly took him and got no where near the ball..

They have to go down as if they are lawn darts or doing that ski jumping

Arms at their sides an all :P

mink_man · 13-12-2009 5:54pm

i think arsenal will score, cant see liverpool keepin them out...

happyoutscan · 13-12-2009 5:54pm

Agreed, good first half performance. Hopefully keep at Arsenal in the second half.

NukaCola · 13-12-2009 5:54pm

Harpy wrote: »

gerrard clearly got taken out, even if he did jump and throw his hands in the air how does that not make it a penalty.. is there now a standard penalty routine that you have to know in order to get a penalty?? gallas took gerrard out it doesn't matter what gerrard did when going down it doesn't change the fact that gallas clearly took him and got no where near the ball..

He doesn't know what he's on about, full of hate he is....

mormank · 13-12-2009 5:55pm

Nemanja91 wrote: »

it wasn't a penalty, it would have been if gerrard didn't pull off his usual jump and throw hands in the air while looking back at the ref at the same time

so basically what you are saying, just so i get this straight, is that if masch had've put his hands up looking for a free when denilson drop kicked him it wouldnt have been a free?? hmm..interesting

NukaCola · 13-12-2009 5:55pm

mink_man wrote: »

i think arsenal will score, cant see liverpool keepin them out...

Why? They were pretty poor going forward TBH....

magma69 · 13-12-2009 5:55pm

Liverpool are immense today. Let's hope they approach the second half in the same fashion and get an early second goal. They are showing these young guns up completely in all areas of the park. Arsenal can hardly string a pass together.

evil_seed · 13-12-2009 5:57pm

howard webb has proven again that his reputation of being the prems best ref is ridonkulous. he has given crazy decisions for frees to both teams and missed easy decisions for both teams.

Mascherano is playin a blinder

Glico Man · 13-12-2009 5:58pm

I think this might explain a lot

Nemanja91 wrote: »

LOVE

Nemanja Vidic
Everything Utd except ben foster

Hate
Rafa
Liverpool complaining when they are missing 1 player
Everything liverpool
Drogba
Man City

eZe^ · 13-12-2009 5:59pm

Liverpool deserve that tbh, Arsenal's passing (and more importantly Fabregas) has been awful, really awful, but my God, most of the time Kuyt is painful to watch, I'd rather watch darts or something.

leninbenjamin · 13-12-2009 5:59pm

mayordenis wrote: »

Here stop posting nonsense please. Every single post in this thread by you is drivel.

There actually is a perfectly legitimate argument for it. A deliberate arm out like that can be considered violent conduct if it makes contact with the player. I remember quite clearly that Sol Campbell was sent off for the exact same offence against Solksjaer a few years ago and the ban was upheld after appeal.

Anyway, it's moot. Liverpool deservedly in the lead, and probably should be 2 or 3 goals up, although a wee bit lucky with how the goal actually came about. Mascherano absolutely dominating the midfield, although Gerrard and Torres have been a bit wasteful imo.

Arsenal on the other hand have been absolutely shocking. Some of the worst passing i've ever seen from them. They seriously don't look bothered.

Mad_Max · 13-12-2009 5:59pm

Christ how did webb not give that pen. Just seen it at half time. He had the clearest possible view.

Losing his marbles this year.

Redzer7 · 13-12-2009 5:59pm

Really missing Van Persie up front, hopefully we take the few chances we get but it is looking unlikely we will get many, it only takes a second to score though so I wouldn't write us off just yet

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copacetic · 13-12-2009 5:59pm

Great display from Masch and Lucas in the middle so far. Should be much further ahead, Torres looking rusty and Benny and Gerrard not at their best either. Worrying that we haven't got 2 already, Arsenal can't be this bad for the whole game.

ilovelamp2000 · 13-12-2009 5:59pm

That's a good opening 45 mins for us.

What have Arsenal got on their bench ? I expect them to make some changes fairly soon, we've contained them pretty well thus far. We're winning most of the 50/50's as well so we need to keep that up.

I hope we don't sit back in the second half and allow Fabregas the time and space to dictate things.

monkey9 · 13-12-2009 6:00pm

evil_seed wrote: »

howard webb has proven again that his reputation of being the prems best ref is ridonkulous. he has given crazy decisions for frees to both teams and missed easy decisions for both teams.

Mascherano is playin a blinder

I always believed Mark Halsey to be the best ref in the Premier League

Kess73 · 13-12-2009 6:01pm

If Masch is fine to play out the 90 mins, I would be taking Lucas off at the hour mark to give Aquilani 30mins to zip the ball about whilst having Masch on the pitch to do the biting.

dannydiamond · 13-12-2009 6:02pm

magma69 wrote: »

Liverpool are immense today. Let's hope they approach the rest of the season in the same fashion

FYP.;)

mink_man · 13-12-2009 6:02pm

phil dowd ftw

The Muppet · 13-12-2009 6:02pm

Good first half for Liverpool they deserve their lead, I wouldn't be too hard on Almunia, Lucas made it difficult for him. Torres obviously not match fit but his injury appears to be sorted. The same applies to Gerrard, he stretched for a ball early on that could have done the groin again if it wasn't right.

The Gunners will have to go for it second half, overall it's been a good game so far.

NukaCola · 13-12-2009 6:03pm

From BBC Website

"Dirk Kuyt may not be everyone's cup of tea, but when he scores it is generally good news for Liverpool. In the five matches he has scored this season Liverpool have won all of them and their aggregate score is 14-2"

Frisbee · 13-12-2009 6:03pm

Liverpool fully deserve their lead and are unlucky not to be 2 or 3 up.

Arsenal look absolutely spinelss and Cesc has so far pulled another one of his big game disappearances, yes he's picked out a few good passes, but that's not good enough from your teams start player in a big match like this.

Eduardo has been awful so far this season but we need to get him on.

Preferably for Nasri and put Arshavin out left, we have absolutely no width that side and Pool have realised this.

leninbenjamin · 13-12-2009 6:03pm

Mad_Max wrote: »

Christ how did webb not give that pen. Just seen it at half time. He had the clearest possible view.

What you don't see from the replay is how far ahead of himself Gerrard kicked the ball. Even though it was a terrible tackle, by the time Gerrard starts falling, the ball is already well out of his control, so technically there was no advantage to lose. Some ref's give those, some ref's don't. It's something that needs to be cleared up in the rules.

Royale with Cheese · 13-12-2009 6:04pm

Frisbee wrote: »

Preferably for Nasri and put Arshavin out left, we have absolutely no width that side and Pool have realised this.

Arsenal never have any width. It's basically a goalkeeper, back 4, 5 centre mids, and Theo Walcott (who is shit).

wandatowell · 13-12-2009 6:06pm

the pool deserve the lead but its really frustrating handing them a goal the way we did.

copacetic · 13-12-2009 6:06pm

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Even though it was a terrible tackle, by the time Gerrard starts falling, the ball is already well out of his control, so technically there was no advantage to lose.

There is no 'advantage to lose' in the rules, technically or otherwise. A foul is a foul, if the ball is gone, it's just a late foul.

ilovelamp2000 · 13-12-2009 6:06pm

leninbenjamin wrote: »

What you don't see from the replay is how far ahead of himself Gerrard kicked the ball. Even though it was a terrible tackle, by the time Gerrard starts falling, the ball is already well out of his control, so technically there was no advantage to lose. Some ref's give those, some ref's don't. It's something that needs to be cleared up in the rules.

The rules are clear. The location of the ball is irrelevant.

Glico Man · 13-12-2009 6:08pm

How has Arshavin been able to win headers in the box against Agger and Carra??

Liverpool vs. Arsenal 13/12/09 (MOD NOTE: #119 and OP)

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