Illuminati Accidentally Mentioned on CNBC

magma69 · 13-12-2009 9:34am

Seems that was pretty deliberate if ask me. Not exactly a slip of the tongue. What is the big deal?

Gerty · 13-12-2009 10:01am

I'm sorry,you are entitled to believe whatever you want but i most definitely think that he is referring to to the Illuminati of the country-as in People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject. Now i think the clip was about the economy or banking,all i think that means is the he is talking about the supposed experts in that field.

ThrAx · 13-12-2009 8:40pm

Why would he call them Illuminati. Hes talking about finance and banking, he could mean the Rockefellers etc (Illuminati).

PirateShampoo · 13-12-2009 9:53pm

Its a 20 second clip taken out of context.

mysterious · 14-12-2009 3:18am

He could simply mean what he says. He could simply be creating a reactive response in the public. Since the illuminati are making their agenda known very public in all levels now. These organisations are owned by them. So it makes sense.

As we are now, reacting.

ThrAx · 14-12-2009 5:56am

mysterious wrote: »

He could simply mean what he says. He could simply be creating a reactive response in the public. Since the illuminati are making their agenda known very public in all levels now. These organisations are owned by them. So it makes sense.

As we are now, reacting.

Plausible.

YraggarY · 14-12-2009 7:05am

"... there's a bunch of wrong-footed moves by Hank Paulson and the Illuminati of the country, if you will..."

They were talking about how the Dollar has reclaimed some of its value, and the gentleman was stating that he believes that the United States Treasury Secretary (Hank Paulson), and others who claim to be enlightened about the specific situation, "the illuminati" (i.e. those who know the ins and outs of government moves to tackle that specific financial situation - those who are illuminated on the subject), have made some bad moves to tackle the financial situation that they find themselves in regarding the value of the dollar.
Also note his use of "if you will" when referring to the people he is talking about as "illuminati" (Hank Paulson et al), which pertains to the fact that he is implying that that specific word simply refers to people who know intimate details about the subject at hand.

I would point you to definition number 1 at the following page:
http://www.answers.com/topic/illuminati

- G

Gerty · 14-12-2009 11:31am

YraggarY wrote: »

"... there's a bunch of wrong-footed moves by Hank Paulson and the Illuminati of the country, if you will..."

They were talking about how the Dollar has reclaimed some if its value, and the gentleman was stating that he believes that the United States Treasury Secretary (Hank Paulson), and others who claim to be enlightened about the specific situation, "the illuminati" (i.e. those who know the ins and outs of government moves to tackle that specific financial situation - those who are illuminated on the subject), have made some bad moves to tackle the financial situation that they find themselves in regarding the value of the dollar.
Also note his use of "if you will" when referring to the people he is talking about as "illuminati" (Hank Paulson et al), which pertains to the fact that he is implying that that specific word simply refers to people who know intimate details about the subject at hand.

I would point you to definition number 1 at the following page:
http://www.answers.com/topic/illuminati

- G

Smarter,better thought out explanation than mine.

bman · 14-12-2009 11:48am

Hahahahaha. Oh that's good stuff.

Penn · 14-12-2009 1:40pm

bman wrote: »

Hahahahaha. Oh that's good stuff.

In what way?

Personally, I'm undecided on this

Torakx · 14-12-2009 2:09pm

i doubt he is oblivious to the illuminati people have been talking about for ages.
if he ment the ilumintated he may have said the experts or wallstreet. but he said illuminatti instead. a tad suspicious but i would guess it is just a mention for them not sure why that is needed yet.

Undergod · 14-12-2009 3:24pm

"Illuminati" does have a meaning outside of a CT context. This is how it was intended here, as far as I can see.

YraggarY · 14-12-2009 8:23pm

Torakx wrote: »

i doubt he is oblivious to the illuminati people have been talking about for ages.
if he ment the ilumintated he may have said the experts or wallstreet. but he said illuminatti instead. a tad suspicious but i would guess it is just a mention for them not sure why that is needed yet.

Indeed, I doubt he is oblivious to the "Illuminati" of many varied stories and legends, although you have to look at it from the point of view of someone who does not believe in an Illuminati conspiracy. To such a person the word illuminati would, 9 times out of 10, mean simply a group of people who are enlightened about a particular area or subject.

I understand the point you raise, "if he ment the ilumintated he may have said the experts or wallstreet. but he said illuminatti instead". However, if you take a moment to read my previous post above, he was speaking about a particular subject (namely American Government Finances / the stability US Dollar) and the only people with an in-depth and complete understanding of that particular subject at any one time are the US Treasury Secretary, his/her aides, the President of the United States, the heads of certain banks and high-ups in the Federal Reserve, and a select few others. When they get their facts straight / the story they wish to spin to the public, they then issue a press release. Until that press release is issued, they are the only ones who truly know what is going on with that particular subject, thus they are "illuminated" about it, and all others are in the dark. There is more than one person in that small group, which makes it plural, leaving you with the term "illuminati".

It is similar to the fairly modern term "glitterati" which is often used when speaking about wealthy or fashionable people who like to be recognised, and socialise in the upper echelons of society. You could just say "the rich ladies and gentlemen filled the venue to the brim and partied their way into squalid debauchery..." and so on, but instead, one might say "The venue was packed with the who's who of Irish glitterati", and this is exactly what the gentleman in the video has done, thus making his quote a little less sinister than it might first appear to a Conspiracy Theorist.

- G

mysterious · 14-12-2009 8:40pm

Undergod wrote: »

"Illuminati" does have a meaning outside of a CT context. This is how it was intended here, as far as I can see.

What is that supposed to mean? really?

Seriously.

YraggarY · 14-12-2009 8:45pm

mysterious wrote: »

What is that supposed to mean? really?

Seriously.

http://www.answers.com/topic/illuminati

Definition number 1.

- G

Lab_Mouse · 14-12-2009 8:47pm

mysterious wrote: »

What is that supposed to mean? really?

Seriously.

Its already being explained to you above by gerty and YraggarY

ThrAx · 15-12-2009 4:20am

Isn't it weird though. Coincidence or not, since many beleive that the illuminati are an elite group of bankers from america and europe, and he decides to use the word illuminati when talking about bankers and people involved in finance.

PirateShampoo · 15-12-2009 11:56am

ThrAx wrote: »

Isn't it weird though. Coincidence or not, since many beleive that the illuminati are an elite group of bankers from america and europe, and he decides to use the word illuminati when talking about bankers and people involved in finance.

Or he just used it in its propper dictonary usage?

il·lu·mi·na·ti
pl.n.

People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject.

Undergod · 15-12-2009 12:03pm

mysterious wrote: »

What is that supposed to mean? really?

Seriously.

It means exactly what it says. The word "Illuminati" has a broader meaning than the organization of that name that exist in conspiracy theories. It means, as described above, a group of people that have a certain specialized knowledge on a topic. They are "illuminated" with regards to that subject.

In the clip in the OP, it seems to me that the speaker used "illuminati" in this sense; referring to banking experts, rather than a shadowy cabal of some sort.

Black Uhlan · 15-12-2009 12:46pm

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Or he just used it in its propper dictonary usage?

il·lu·mi·na·ti

pl.n.
People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject.

The guy wasn't making the claim on himself.

Should be pretty easy then for you then to find other examples of recorded interviews where the term is used...

cashback · 15-12-2009 12:54pm

Undergod wrote: »

It means exactly what it says. The word "Illuminati" has a broader meaning than the organization of that name that exist in conspiracy theories. It means, as described above, a group of people that have a certain specialized knowledge on a topic. They are "illuminated" with regards to that subject.

In the clip in the OP, it seems to me that the speaker used "illuminati" in this sense; referring to banking experts, rather than a shadowy cabal of some sort.

Exactly. It couldn't be more obvious.

PirateShampoo · 15-12-2009 1:14pm

Black Uhlan wrote: »

The guy wasn't making the claim on himself.

Should be pretty easy then for you then to find other examples of recorded interviews where the term is used...

I don't understand what your getting at.

The man in the 20 second clip where he used the word "Illuminati" was using it in its proper context of "People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject."

I don't see anywhere where i made the claim he was referring to himself, its quite clear he is making talking about people in the upper echelons of the banking business.

Black Uhlan · 15-12-2009 5:39pm

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I don't understand what your getting at.

The man in the 20 second clip where he used the word "Illuminati" was using it in its proper context of "People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject."

I don't see anywhere where i made the claim he was referring to himself, its quite clear he is making talking about people in the upper echelons of the banking business.

Your definition doesn't quite fit here - read it again.

In any case, whether he was referring to some nefarious group, (maybe he's into CT's?...Maybe he knows more than you and I and he is trying to spread the word? Maybe he is connected to it?) or it is as you say it doesn't really matter does it? What does it change?

Its a big IF but if there is some kind of illuminati group today and it is historical fact that there was you can be sure that Paulson and all the other Fed 'illuminati" and his ilk would be stooges for it.

PirateShampoo · 15-12-2009 5:48pm

Black Uhlan wrote: »

Your definition doesn't quite fit here - read it again.

In any case, whether he was referring to some nefarious group, (maybe he's into CT's?...Maybe he knows more than you and I and he is trying to spread the word? Maybe he is connected to it?) or it is as you say it doesn't really matter does it? What does it change?

Its a big IF but if there is some kind of illuminati group today and it is historical fact that there was you can be sure that Paulson and all the other Fed 'illuminati" and his ilk would be stooges for it.

I still cant tell what your getting at, because from reading your post it would appear to be agree with what everybody else is saying that he was using the term to describe a select few at the top of the banking ladder.

meglome · 15-12-2009 7:18pm

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I don't understand what your getting at.

The man in the 20 second clip where he used the word "Illuminati" was using it in its proper context of "People claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject."

I don't see anywhere where i made the claim he was referring to himself, its quite clear he is making talking about people in the upper echelons of the banking business.

I just watched the clip and I couldn't agree with you more. I've seen some tenuous connections put forward in here but I can't begin to see the CT in a guy using a word with the correct dictionary meaning for the exact people he was referring to.

Illuminati Accidentally Mentioned on CNBC

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