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Combined Luas and DART ticket

  • 13-12-2009 6:54pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭


    Anyone know if there is one of these?

    Thanks!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    No, the RPA was told to sort out "integrated ticketing" in 2001 when they were established. This they never did :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭burgess1


    I emailed Irish Rail in June to ask if there was one. I didn't get a reply in time but I was able to get one in Greystones station. I think it cost about €9.60 for unlimited use for the day. When Irish Rail replied to my email, they said that no such ticket existed :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭goingnowhere




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    They only do them (for specific journeys as opposed to 3+ day passes) to and from Heuston Station (or the LUAS stops in between) and you can only get them at train stations as goingnowhere states.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭KC61


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    No, the RPA was told to sort out "integrated ticketing" in 2001 when they were established. This they never did :(

    This sort of mis-information does no one any favours. There certainly are DART/LUAS commuter tickets.

    You can get 1 day, weekly, monthly and annual tickets all available from Irish Rail.

    The monthly and annual versions are both available through the Irish Rail taxsaver scheme at www.taxsaver.ie

    There is also a DART/Dublin Bus/LUAS ticket also available in monthly and annual formats.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    KC61 wrote: »
    This sort of mis-information does no one any favours. There certainly are DART/LUAS commuter tickets.

    You can get 1 day, weekly, monthly and annual tickets all available from Irish Rail.

    But there are no Luas/Dart tickets, if one wanted to go from the point to a dart station or start from the redline past Heuston.
    As it works one way, then the hoary excuse of revenue sharing can't be trotted out and only govt incompetence can explain it, the Govt directly running the rpa and being the only owner of IÉ


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    KC61 wrote: »
    This sort of mis-information does no one any favours. There certainly are DART/LUAS commuter tickets.

    New one on me , is there an Intercity / Luas integrated ticket or an Intercity / Dart integrated ticket ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭KC61


    There are no combined multi-mode single tickets anywhere, except for the DART feeder bus routes (90, 102 and 111) and DART.

    But there certainly are multi-journey commuter tickets available across all modes in Dublin.

    Correction:
    There are city centre LUAS or Dublin Bus add-ons to Intercity single/return rail tickets that will bring you to the city centre and Connolly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭KC61


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    New one on me , is there an Intercity / Luas integrated ticket or an Intercity / Dart integrated ticket ???

    There are annual tickets that cover:
    Irish Rail all services
    Irish Rail/Dublin Bus all services
    CIE all services (Dublin Bus, Irish Rail and Bus Eireann)
    Irish Rail/LUAS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,494 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Any rail ticket can have a Luas feeder added for Heuston-Connoly.

    AFAIK there is a monthly / annual Irish Rail ticket that covers all modes (IÉ, DB, BÉ and Luas).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭KC61


    Victor wrote: »
    Any rail ticket can have a Luas feeder added for Heuston-Connoly.

    AFAIK there is a monthly / annual Irish Rail ticket that covers all modes (IÉ, DB, BÉ and Luas).

    There is no ticket that covers all CIE services and Luas I'm afraid Victor.

    There is one though that covers Dublin Bus, Luas and Irish Rail DART and Dublin Commuter services within the Short Hop zone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    http://www.transport.ie/upload/general/2648-0.pdf

    From 2002
    It is expected that the phased implementation of the new system could be as follows:
    · Bus Atha Cliath – 2002.
    · Suburban rail – 2003
    · Luas – start 2003.
    · Mainline Rail/ Bus Eireann – 2003+
    · Other transport operators – as they enter the market after 2003.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭KC61


    Just to clarify - the following multi-journey tickets are available currently:

    Dublin Area:
    Dublin Bus Only - 10 Journey Travel 90 (Multi-bus journey ticket allowing unlimited transfers between buses within 90 minutes of 1st trip starting)
    Dublin Bus Only - 1 day/3 day/5 day/7 day/30 day/Annual
    Dublin Bus/Irish Rail - 1 day/3 day/7 day/30 day/Annual
    Dublin Bus/LUAS - 1 day/7 day/30 day/Annual
    Dublin Bus/Irish Rail/LUAS - Monthly/Annual
    Dublin Bus/Irish Rail/Bus Eireann - 7 Day (Medium/Long/Giant Hop - zones extend to 60 miles around Dublin)
    Irish Rail Only - 1 day/3 day/7 day/30 day/Annual
    Irish Rail /LUAS - 1 day/7 day/30 day/Annual
    Irish Rail/Airlink - Single Journey
    Irish Rail/DART Feeder Bus (90/102/111) - Single Journey
    LUAS Only - 1 day/7 day/30 day/Annual

    Limerick/Galway/Waterford:
    Bus Eireann City Services: 1 day/7 day/30 day

    Cork:
    Bus Eireann City Services: 1 day/7 day/30 day
    Bus Eireann City/Suburban Services:1 day/7 day/30 day
    Bus Eireann City/Suburban Services/Irish Rail Cobh Line or Midleton Line - 1 day/7 day/30 day/Annual

    National:
    Irish Rail/Dublin Bus - Annual
    Irish Rail/Bus Eireann - Annual
    Irish Rail/LUAS - Annual
    CIE All Services (Irish Rail/Bus Eireann/Dublin Bus) - Annual

    There are also period passes for Bus Eireann and Irish Rail for specific point-to-point journeys in 7 day/30 day and Annual formats, which can be tied up with Dublin Bus as well, or with LUAS to/from Dublin city centre.

    What is not present are either single/return journey multi-mode tickets or a smartcard that allows the user to maintain a purse to purchase single trip tickets across the various modes of transport. This is what the media keep referring to as "integrated ticketing". Nor are there tickets available between the independent operators in the Dublin Area (URbus/Dualway/Swords Express) and the CIE Group or LUAS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Any rail ticket can have a Luas feeder added for Heuston-Connoly.

    This is one worth watching in the context of the Point extension.

    Veolia do have some references on posters to the fact that the Add-On is NOT valid after Connolly...IE It will not cover a trip to the Oh2 for an oul concert.

    Veolia Ticket Checkers will be enforcing this in the very near future and the defence of ignorance will not wash :rolleyes:

    It appears that the Add-On only exists to facilitate the RPA in telling an awestruck world that Heuston and Connolly ARE actually linked by rail.... ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    This is one worth watching in the context of the Point extension.

    Veolia do have some references on posters to the fact that the Add-On is NOT valid after Connolly...IE It will not cover a trip to the Oh2 for an oul concert.

    Veolia Ticket Checkers will be enforcing this in the very near future and the defence of ignorance will not wash :rolleyes:

    It appears that the Add-On only exists to facilitate the RPA in telling an awestruck world that Heuston and Connolly ARE actually linked by rail.... ;)
    I thought Cullen got great mileage out of announcing the first new city centre railway station in yonks* at Sherriff street a while ago. isn't the luas/DB add on supposed to get you to the city centre. wouldn't this muddy the waters when our fare dodging friends are up before the beak?

    * yonks - longer than the electorates short memory anyway.


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