Clash of the Titans - Discussion Thread

cyberwolf77 · 24-12-2009 3:17pm

What about an all-human tourney. Hero vs. Villian until only one remains

Handsome Bob · 24-12-2009 3:40pm

Xenomorph P2 D+10 6pts
Predator P2 D+10 6pts
Lestat P1 D+6 3pts
Angel P1 D+6 3pts
Pennywise P2 D-4 3pts
Dracula P2 D-5 1pts
Freddy Krueger P2 D-6 0pts
Wolfman P2 D-6 1pts
Frankenstein P2 D-11 0pts

Handsome Bob · 25-12-2009 12:13pm

DeVore wrote: »

Surely its unfair to put Frankenstein up against these vicious horrors, I mean, he's just a Doctor, what can he possibly do??

Now, if you were talking about his "monster" then perhaps that might be a better fight

DeV.

Meh. :P

Galvasean · 25-12-2009 11:39pm

I'd say Doc frankenstein might have stood a better chance, what with being clever and all.

Baggly · 26-12-2009 2:16am

If you were in a fight with Rocky (in his prime) you think you could outsmart him?

Probably but he would still kick any of our asses.

Life isnt as nice as rewarding smarts over brawns everytime methinks

Crumble Froo · 27-12-2009 12:23am

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I got to send you the 5 season Angel pack, you'd love it.

:eek: that would be amazing. i dont think i ever managed to see all the episodes of angel. buffy yes. several times. but man, im gonna have to hunt that one out now.

Handsome Bob · 27-12-2009 12:30am

Crumble Froo wrote: »

:eek: that would be amazing. i dont think i ever managed to see all the episodes of angel. buffy yes. several times. but man, im gonna have to hunt that one out now.

Ya, I've seen every season of Buffy, but I wouldn't mind watching Angel all over again. I barely watched the last season.

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 12:33am

It's funny how so many less people have seen the last couple of series of Angel yet those who have usually think it's the best bit of the entire Whedoniverse.

Handsome Bob · 27-12-2009 12:38am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

It's funny how so many less people have seen the last couple of series of Angel yet those who have usually think it's the best bit of the entire Whedoniverse.

Yeah I've heard that, the problem is that S4 was the worst bit of the Whedonverse.

Crumble Froo · 27-12-2009 12:41am

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Ya, I've seen every season of Buffy, but I wouldn't mind watching Angel all over again. I barely watched the last season.

see, it was on sky on fridays, and we used to spend fridays at my nana's house (like every friday ever from age 0-16), and it was my cousin who got me into buffy, we used to watch it there, but then when angel came on, it was usually home time, so it'd be on while we were driving home, and i'd miss it.

Doctor DooM wrote: »

It's funny how so many less people have seen the last couple of series of Angel yet those who have usually think it's the best bit of the entire Whedoniverse.

shockingly, outside of buffy and angel, i havent seen any whedon stuff

need to work on that, i reckon i'd love it all.

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 12:41am

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Yeah I've heard that, the problem is that S4 was the worst bit of the Whedonverse.

Wasn't that the same time buffy went through it's lull?

Handsome Bob · 27-12-2009 1:00am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Wasn't that the same time buffy went through it's lull?

S7 of Buffy coincided with S4 of Angel. S7 of Buffy wasn't my cup of tea but it was still good, I'd say S4 of Buffy was the lull.

Handsome Bob · 27-12-2009 11:10am

Angel P2 D+11 6pts
Xenomorph P2 D+10 6pts
Predator P2 D+10 6pts
Lestat P1 D+1 3pts
Pennywise P2 D-4 3pts
Dracula P2 D-5 1pts
Freddy Krueger P2 D-6 0pts
Wolfman P2 D-6 1pts
Frankenstein P2 D-11 0pts

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 11:16am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHpozHn-QA

It's on, now!

Handsome Bob · 27-12-2009 11:19am

Totally intentional that name.

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 11:31am

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Totally intentional that name.

My friend I would expect no less of you.

I'm going to spend this entire league arguing why Batman should lose, aren't I?

cyberwolf77 · 27-12-2009 1:09pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

My friend I would expect no less of you.

I'm going to spend this entire league arguing why Batman should lose, aren't I?

While I spend it arguing for Ash to win? Yeah, we can cry in our beer together.

Baggly · 27-12-2009 1:20pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

My friend I would expect no less of you.

I'm going to spend this entire league arguing why Batman should lose, aren't I?

When its obvious he should lose, he does.

Against, oh, i dont know.....Superman, for example, he would lose.

Its only when its an even contest that people give him the edge just because he is the Bat

Micky Dolenz · 27-12-2009 1:27pm

Crumble Froo wrote: »

:eek: that would be amazing. i dont think i ever managed to see all the episodes of angel. buffy yes. several times. but man, im gonna have to hunt that one out now.

It's awesome, often watch them again. It truely is a great show.

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 1:30pm

Pter wrote: »

When its obvious he should lose, he does.

Against, oh, i dont know.....Superman, for example, he would lose.

Its only when its an even contest that people give him the edge just because he is the Bat

To be fair, the reverse is true too, voted for him against that Rambo chappie.

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 1:31pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

think it depends.

I could see Rambo taking it, if they were both in a jungle with limitd resources.

However if Batman was in a city and near his batcave he would take it easily.

Strip away all the fancy toys, it would be really close.

I dunno, didn't brucey train with mercs for this very scenario?

Micky Dolenz · 27-12-2009 1:34pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I dunno, didn't brucey train with mercs for this very scenario?

yeah, but it's different training with a group and actually being one full time. Take the Bat out of his tights and he is just a man. I've seen Rambo take on and beat entire armies :P

cyberwolf77 · 27-12-2009 1:34pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I dunno, didn't brucey train with mercs for this very scenario?

Scenario being a fight against the best green beret ever produced?

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 1:38pm

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

Scenario being a fight against the best green beret ever produced?

Well... yeah, kinda.

David Cain trained him to take on all kinds of military situations if memory serves.

cyberwolf77 · 27-12-2009 1:40pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Well... yeah, kinda.

David Cain trained him to take on all kinds of military situations if memory serves.

Question then becomes could David Cain beat Rambo?

Rhyme · 27-12-2009 4:16pm

Oh man, the Human League.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHpozHn-QA

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 4:17pm

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

Question then becomes could David Cain beat Rambo?

Well Bats would consistently be portrayed as having exceeded his master type of thing. the real interesting fight to me would be Batman vs Cassandra Cain, but I don't think it'd ever happen in one of these

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 4:18pm

Rhyme wrote: »

Oh man, the Human League.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHpozHn-QA

Totally got there first.

cyberwolf77 · 27-12-2009 4:20pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Well Bats would consistently be portrayed as having exceeded his master type of thing. the real interesting fight to me would be Batman vs Cassandra Cain, but I don't think it'd ever happen in one of these

I know Cassandra took Shiva in a fight. Can't remember if Bruce ever did though.

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 4:23pm

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

I know Cassandra took Shiva in a fight. Can't remember if Bruce ever did though.

I don't keep up but last time I did check I think DC were actively keeping the question out there if Cassandra or Bruce was the top martial artist in the DCU open.

cyberwolf77 · 27-12-2009 4:25pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I don't keep up but last time I did check I think DC were actively keeping the question out there if Cassandra or Bruce was the top martial artist in the DCU open.

Last I looked Bruce was actually ranked as seventh worldwide.

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 4:32pm

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

Last I looked Bruce was actually ranked as seventh worldwide.

Actually, you may be right, as Black Canary was hugley upgraded post Shiva training and Green Arrow recieved a huge power buff in one year later, to the point were he took out deathstroke.

cyberwolf77 · 27-12-2009 4:33pm

That Green Arrow arc was awesomeness. Also you met the freak who trained Deathstroke.

Galvasean · 27-12-2009 4:42pm

Pter wrote: »

If you were in a fight with Rocky (in his prime) you think you could outsmart him?

Probably but he would still kick any of our asses.

Life isnt as nice as rewarding smarts over brawns everytime methinks

I just meant that Doc Frank might have been able to use a gizmo from the lab to fight the Pred. Still think the Pred would win, but he might have stood a better chance than Frankenstein's monster, who lasted the best part of 3 seconds.

Doctor DooM · 27-12-2009 5:24pm

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

That Green Arrow arc was awesomeness. Also you met the freak who trained Deathstroke.

Yup. I really liked it too. It really worked for Oliver's character.

Rhyme · 27-12-2009 5:28pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Totally got there first.

I'm slow.

Hurf durf.

Doctor DooM · 29-12-2009 2:15am

Someone explain this Dutch dude to me.

cyberwolf77 · 29-12-2009 2:19am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Someone explain this Dutch dude to me.

Military special ops. Managed to beat a predator one on one.

Doctor DooM · 29-12-2009 2:31am

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

Military special ops. Managed to beat a predator one on one.

Sorry. Couple of drinks brain fart. I know who he is.

cyberwolf77 · 29-12-2009 2:32am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Sorry. Couple of drinks brain fart. I know who he is.

Figured it was something like that

Baggly · 29-12-2009 4:09pm

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

Military special ops. Managed to beat a predator one on one.

WHERES DANNY GLOVER THEN!!!???!!!

And furthermore, neither Arnie nor Danny beat a fully fledged Pred. They beat preds on a training rite, IIRC. Its the difference between winning a slow bicycle race on a unicycle or on a tricycle.

Galvasean · 29-12-2009 5:40pm

Pter wrote: »

WHERES DANNY GLOVER THEN!!!???!!!

And furthermore, neither Arnie nor Danny beat a fully fledged Pred. They beat preds on a training rite, IIRC. Its the difference between winning a slow bicycle race on a unicycle or on a tricycle.

If they are Predator rookies does that make the ones in AVP drunken Predator frat boys?
While am at it, if the one in AVPR is supposed to be an experienced veteran, then why is he is he such a bloody eijit?

Baggly · 29-12-2009 6:47pm

Galvasean wrote: »

If they are Predator rookies does that make the ones in AVP drunken Predator frat boys?

Yes

Galvasean wrote: »

While am at it, if the one in AVPR is supposed to be an experienced veteran, then why is he is he such a bloody eijit?

Batman is supposed to be the pinacle of human achievement, intelligence and endeavour, yet Joel Schumacher couldnt direct his way into or out of Batmans cape (Source: Batman and Robin). As franchises continue, they get diluted. AVPR is more confirmation of this.

Doctor DooM · 29-12-2009 8:25pm

You know that Predator from one of the very first AvP comics... I think his name was Broken tooth?

That was a hardcore Pred.

Bajingo · 29-12-2009 10:43pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Nah, not a hope. McClane is a city cop, take him out of his enviroment and he is screwed. Dutch is a trained at any and every situation, he would be equally dangerous in any enviroment.

For me, Dutch has too many skills in his book to be beaten by the likes of McClane.

Nope, especially in a city environment McClane would have the upper hand Dutch would be out of his territory. In the jungle..I think it would be close..Dutch can hide but so can McClane it would be close in that case but im gonna have to say McClane again.

Micky Dolenz · 29-12-2009 10:57pm

Bajingo wrote: »

Nope, especially in a city environment McClane would have the upper hand Dutch would be out of his territory. In the jungle..I think it would be close..Dutch can hide but so can McClane it would be close in that case but im gonna have to say McClane again.

McClane is a detective, a hard ass one at that, but Dutch is Special forces. Differance in training and experiance. McClane couldn't handle Dutch.

.

Baggly · 29-12-2009 11:21pm

Lets look at accomplishments here. McClane, without the training that Dutch got, managed to foil a large group of crack east german terrorists. Mostly without a gun.

Dutch had a crack team of commandos, armed to the teeth, got them all killed, barely survived himself (did he survive the suicide blast, i cant remember) and was fighting one being (albeit a Pred).

McClanes lack of 'training' hasnt held him back before. He can take a hell of alot more punishment that Dutch can.

Micky Dolenz · 29-12-2009 11:22pm

I feel voilated

For the record, can I just say, forbidding discussion or comments on the comp thread is bad form.

Most people who just happen to come onto the thread just see a name and no back up, it won't sway them to vote, a lot of the characters will be unknown to and some peeps may never have seen/heard of before (Nudges Doom :pac:), once a competion is live, posts to aid in swaying should be allowed. Not everyone knows there is a discussion thread.

Micky Dolenz · 29-12-2009 11:24pm

Pter wrote: »

Lets look at accomplishments here. McClane, without the training that Dutch got, managed to foil a large group of crack east german terrorists. Mostly without a gun.

Dutch had a crack team of commandos, armed to the teeth, got them all killed, barely survived himself (did he survive the suicide blast, i cant remember) and was fighting one being (albeit a Pred).

McClanes lack of 'training' hasnt held him back before. He can take a hell of alot more punishment that Dutch can.

Would you rather fight some Geman terrorists or Predator?

Doctor DooM · 29-12-2009 11:28pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I feel voilated

For the record, can I just say, forbidding discussion or comments on the comp thread is bad form.

Most people who just happen to come onto the thread just see a name and no back up, it won't sway them to vote, a lot of the characters will be unknown to and some peeps may never have seen/heard of before (Nudges Doom :pac:), once a competion is live, posts to aid in swaying should be allowed. Not everyone knows there is a discussion thread.

Just keep the discussion on the main thread to the "live" fight. It becomes a nightmare to count otherwise. Trust me. Rest of the chat goes here, it's how the last one worked.

Anyway it's not like I'm banning or infracting people, just asking them to do LZ a fave.

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