Dealer awards pot wrongly......kinda

tipp86

The board was paired in this hand 2 2 5 5 9.

Player A declares 2 pair and player B nods in a way that concedes hand and goes to throw over cards ta muck but they turn over and it shows Ace high which beats player A.

Dealer has allready awarded pot to player a its in his stack.

What happens now?

bp_me

Player A KITN for declaring his hand like this and told to simply turn it in future.

Player B reminded not to concede without seeing the hand.

Also dealer told to see the winner OR muck any conceded hands before awarding the pot in future.

kakak1

tipp86 wrote: »

The board was paired in this hand 2 2 5 5 9.

Player A declares 2 pair and player B nods in a way that concedes hand and goes to throw over cards ta muck but they turn over and it shows Ace high which beats player A.

Dealer has allready awarded pot to player a its in his stack.

What happens now?

well imo (& I know plenty will disagree) player B with the BEST hand should be awarded the pot. I'd also love to know how you "nod in a way that concedes the pot". Cards speak at all times. If Player B had said "nice hand, well done" but turned over his cards he would be awarded the pot.

Any player who would even try to claim this pot shouldn't be allowed play poker because imo it is cheating.

pkr_ennis

Reconstrct the betting in the hand (the players will know) starting pre flop and working right through the streets to the last action. It takes a minute to get it right, then award the amount decided from player A's stack.
Best hand wins in poker obv.
Job done

tipp86

I didnt see it take place but i think its possible that the player more or less conceded it in words aswell.

I think player A even turned over his hand and that it was just when player B went to muck that it was noticed.

If it was down to me player A gets the chips. Through dealer error if you want. It is my opinion that the dealer should take cards in before awarding a pot.

I cant really see why player A should have to remove them from his stack. Whats to stop Player A from getting up and walking out the door with the chips.

DAMO72

tipp86 wrote: »

I didnt see it take place but i think its possible that the player more or less conceded it in words aswell.

I think player A even turned over his hand and that it was just when player B went to muck that it was noticed.

If it was down to me player A gets the chips. Through dealer error if you want. It is my opinion that the dealer should take cards in before awarding a pot.

I cant really see why player A should have to remove them from his stack. Whats to stop Player A from getting up and walking out the door with the chips[/S].[/quote]
A good beating if they were my chips

pkr_ennis

^^ lolz.

Dealer error happens all the time. It's my opinion that all dead hands should be killed before awarding the pot as well. KITN for the dealer in this instance. However you ought not to punish the guy with the best hand by making him forfit the pot.
What if that was a hundred thousand euro pot (or life changing money) and you hold the winner. Would you concede tipp?
I imagine you'd have much the same attitude as Damo here, I know I would and I know 95% of the poker world would too.
Best tabled hand wins in poker, period.

DAMO72

At the end of the day it came to showdown and both hands were tabled by whatever means and the best hand must win. If the dealer has pushed the chips to the wrong player then it is easily rectified by countback process on all streets and award the proper chips to the rightfull owner.
If the other player complains about this then a swift kick to the bolix for being a total cnut about it should be administered.

Icarus152

bp_me wrote: »

Player A KITN for declaring his hand like this and told to simply turn it in future.

Player B reminded not to concede without seeing the hand.

Also dealer told to see the winner OR muck any conceded hands before awarding the pot in future.

Drink not suiting you,IMO.

bp_me

Icarus152 wrote: »

Drink not suiting you,IMO.

I'll try not to drink and post again. Wouldn't be able to drop some players home after a few drinks if I kept doing that.

Jam-Fly

Best hand at showdown wins.



As it played it out, it ended up being a dealer error that caused player A the pot. But still, no doubt, best hand wins.

tipp86

I just feel in this case its dealer error.

If i was player B i ask questions of the house i guess.

If im player B i dont really expect player A to give it back.

If im player A im not giving it back.

pkr_ennis

tipp86 wrote: »

If im player A im not giving it back.

Even if it's DAMO? lolz

What are ya talking about dude? You have to do what the floor manager tells you to do.