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A new political party in the making?

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  • 17-12-2009 6:19pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭


    I have noticed over the course of my time here, a longing by a number of posters for a viable alternate party to compete with the Democrats and Republicans in the US.

    A latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll yesterday indicates 41 percent of likely voters now have a favorable opinion of the Tea Party Patriots, compared to a 35 percent favorable rating for Democrats and 28 percent for Republicans. Could we be seeing the beginnings of a new political party? One with an emphasis in a nonpartisan political direction, and who distrust both Washington politics and Wall Street?

    I plan on tuning into Olbermann at MSLSD tonight. If he has duct tape wrapped around his head, I’ll know he is being forced to report on this Tea Party news. :D

    I know if they became a registered political party, I would switch my registration from Democrat to Tea Party Patriots in a heartbeat (just kidding… I’m a member of the GOP, but would still switch).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    I have noticed over the course of my time here, a longing by a number of posters for a viable alternate party to compete with the Democrats and Republicans in the US.

    A latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll yesterday indicates 41 percent of likely voters now have a favorable opinion of the Tea Party Patriots, compared to a 35 percent favorable rating for Democrats and 28 percent for Republicans. Could we be seeing the beginnings of a new political party? One with an emphasis in a nonpartisan political direction, and who distrust both Washington politics and Wall Street?

    I plan on tuning into Olbermann at MSLSD tonight. If he has duct tape wrapped around his head, I’ll know he is being forced to report on this Tea Party news. :D

    I know if they became a registered political party, I would switch my registration from Democrat to Tea Party Patriots in a heartbeat (just kidding… I’m a member of the GOP, but would still switch).

    Congrats, you fell for the joke.
    A report by Lee Fang at Think Progress documents the involvement of corporate lobbyists FreedomWorks in organizing the teabaggers. FreedomWorks is run by ladies' man (and registered lobbyist) Dick Armey, and if they're not "organizing" the Tea parties, it's news to him. From a letter he wrote on March 10:
    FreedomWorks has been organizing many of these "tea parties" and we are listing the details on our website IamWithRick.com

    If you visit the website, you can rsvp for an event near you, and you can download guidelines to organizing a tea party in your home town if there isn't one being planned already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭kev9100


    How the hell can you say the tea party are non partisan? They are just a bunch of nuts who cant spell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Sorry, but any article that utilizes the word “teabagger” to describe the Tea Party Patriots looses all credibility with me, and I stop reading. Have any credible or sane sources opposing the Tea Parties you'd like to share?

    And regarding kev's profound response, they might not be able to spell at times, but they sure as hell can and will vote.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,333 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    kev9100 wrote: »
    How the hell can you say the tea party are non partisan? They are just a bunch of nuts who cant spell.
    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Sorry, but any article that utilizes the word “teabagger” to describe the Tea Party Patriots looses all credibility with me, and I stop reading. Have any credible or sane sources opposing the Tea Parties you'd like to share?

    And regarding kev's profound response, they might not be able to spell at times, but they sure as hell can and will vote.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Overheal… good one, but why didn’t you make any reference to “cant” (can’t), which I had noticed but realize we all at times make spelling mistakes. ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 83,333 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Too easy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Sorry the article hurt your feelings, I know it is difficult to deal with reality sometimes.

    How about this? Even fox news mentions Dick Armey and Freedomworks. I know fox is not what a sane person would call sane, but then you apparently are the sole decider of what sources are sane or credible.

    Or perhaps this!


  • Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Mjollnir


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Sorry, but any article that utilizes the word “teabagger” to describe the Tea Party Patriots looses all credibility with me, and I stop reading. Have any credible or sane sources opposing the Tea Parties you'd like to share?

    How odd, coming from someone who posts 15 'questions', attempting to legitimize the frothy, alternative reality birth certificate/muslim non-issues.

    They lost all credibility with you? Golly.

    And regarding kev's profound response, they might not be able to spell at times, but they sure as hell can and will vote.

    Indeed, and for a third party, losing candidate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Mjollnir wrote: »
    How odd, coming from someone who posts 15 'questions', attempting to legitimize the frothy, alternative reality birth certificate/muslim non-issues.

    They lost all credibility with you? Golly.

    Indeed, and for a third party, losing candidate.
    God bless their cotton socks, I wish the christian right all the best in tearing the republican party to shreds in dissent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭stringbox




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  • Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Mjollnir


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    God bless their cotton socks, I wish the christian right all the best in tearing the republican party to shreds in dissent.

    I'm thinking of starting a party based on the single issue of selling all social conservatives and fundamentalist 'family values' voters to Paraguay.

    Undeniable potential.

    Oh, and I've been at this site longer than you ;-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Mjollnir wrote: »
    I'm thinking of starting a party based on the single issue of selling all social conservatives and fundamentalist 'family values' voters to Paraguay.

    Undeniable potential.

    Oh, and I've been at this site longer than you ;-)

    Nah man, they'll only be back in 2000 years claiming all before and after them as their divine right. Then they'll start shelling our descendants with white phosphorus and shooting our descendants kids with rubber bullets. All with the support of the America of tomorrow...South America.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    Sorry the article hurt your feelings, I know it is difficult to deal with reality sometimes.

    How about this? Even fox news mentions Dick Armey and Freedomworks. I know fox is not what a sane person would call sane, but then you apparently are the sole decider of what sources are sane or credible.

    Or perhaps this!

    Thanks for those sensible links. I particularly enjoyed the video imbedded with the second one. I can understand why Rep. Tim Bishop (D-NY) needed a police escort to escape the mostly elderly gentlemen and little old ladies singing God Bless America :rolleyes:.


  • Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Mjollnir


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    Nah man, they'll only be back in 2000 years claiming all before and after them as their divine right. Then they'll start shelling our descendants with white phosphorus and shooting our descendants kids with rubber bullets. All with the support of the America of tomorrow...South America.

    I don't know. Based on their propensity for both inbreeding and eating their own young, I'd guess they'd never develop the numbers to do so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Mjollnir wrote: »
    How odd, coming from someone who posts 15 'questions', attempting to legitimize the frothy, alternative reality birth certificate/muslim non-issues

    Please go back and read comprehend the post I made that you noted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Mjollnir


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Please go back and read comprehend the post I made that you noted.

    I understood it perfectly, thanks. That's why I find it ironic that you would bemoan a lack of credibility such as you stated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Mjollnir wrote: »
    I understood it perfectly, thanks. That's why I find it ironic that you would bemoan a lack of credibility such as you stated.
    Obviously you didn’t… so what was my point?


  • Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Mjollnir


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Obviously you didn’t… so what was my point?

    The point here, pertinent to this, is that the very fact that you consider those questions somehow relevant to anything is all I need to know. You're a birther, and that's fine.

    But to decry the lack of legitimacy over any article, using a single word, 'Tea-bagger', which the people so described actually first used themselves, while at the same time considering those 15 questions to be anything other than frothy, full canvas jacket nonsense is the very height of irony.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Thanks for those sensible links. I particularly enjoyed the video imbedded with the second one. I can understand why Rep. Tim Bishop (D-NY) needed a police escort to escape the mostly elderly gentlemen and little old ladies singing God Bless America :rolleyes:.

    The true support base of conservative America. I just hope enough of them live long enough to sabotage the 2012 elections for the GOP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,333 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    And of course, some people will forego any sense of Dignity just to be Partisan.

    Obama's Socialist Christmas Ornament Program


    and oh yeah: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Mjollnir wrote: »
    The point here, pertinent to this, is that the very fact that you consider those questions somehow relevant to anything is all I need to know. You're a birther, and that's fine.

    But to decry the lack of legitimacy over any article, using a single word, 'Tea-bagger', which the people so described actually first used themselves, while at the same time considering those 15 questions to be anything other than frothy, full canvas jacket nonsense is the very height of irony.

    Wrong, wrong and wrong again. And I remember 13 not 15. My point in that post was why Palin probably didn’t want reporters around at her event. I pointed out in satirical manner the hypocrisy of the reporters in the campaign process. Those points I listed included ones bizarre, trivial and reasonable… but had any of them involved Palin, reporters would have investigated and reported on ad nauseam, as they did with the belly bump story. Yet reporters wouldn’t touch any negative story involving Obama with a ten foot pole.

    Off topic, but how’s the economic situation outlook in CA? Our governor, Ed Rendell, will have put our state in your position in the next two years. Any hope of recovering, or should I just plan on moving to a red state?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Wrong, wrong and wrong again. And I remember 13 not 15. My point in that post was why Palin probably didn’t want reporters around at her event. I pointed out in satirical manner the hypocrisy of the reporters in the campaign process. Those points I listed included ones bizarre, trivial and reasonable… but had any of them involved Palin, reporters would have investigated and reported on ad nauseam, as they did with the belly bump story. Yet reporters wouldn’t touch any negative story involving Obama with a ten foot pole.

    Oh, Really?


    Really!

    Totally!


  • Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Mjollnir


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Wrong, wrong and wrong again. And I remember 13 not 15.

    Ah, so you wish to quibble of the actual number of points, and not the irrational pathologies that they represent. Fine, 13 and not 15. That doesn't somehow anchor them firmly back into reality, it simply codifies their count.

    My point in that post was why Palin probably didn’t want reporters around at her event. I pointed out in satirical manner the hypocrisy of the reporters in the campaign process. Those points I listed included ones bizarre, trivial and reasonable… but had any of them involved Palin, reporters would have investigated and reported on ad nauseam, as they did with the belly bump story. Yet reporters wouldn’t touch any negative story involving Obama with a ten foot pole.

    That's irrelevant to what I was addressing. That fact that you take those questions seriously tells me all I need to know.

    And, yes, Obama's been reported on plenty of times in a negative light.

    Off topic, but how’s the economic situation outlook in CA? Our governor, Ed Rendell, will have put our state in your position in the next two years. Any hope of recovering, or should I just plan on moving to a red state?

    The economy here is very poor. Unemployment in LA is over 12%, IIRC.

    Just move a red state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Hellm0 wrote: »

    My point was "the hypocrisy of the reporters in the campaign process."

    The ones you listed: July 22, 2009, 12/17/2009, 12/16/2009.
    Since the election, some journalists have realized the emperor has no clothes. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    My point was "the hypocrisy of the reporters in the campaign process."

    The ones you listed: July 22, 2009, 12/17/2009, 12/16/2009.
    Since the election, some journalists have realized the emperor has no clothes. ;)

    To be honest I have recollections of quite a bit of vitriol being aimed at Obama pre-election. That said, I am no supporter of the two party system, nor those who engage in it(or profit from it, in the case of the media). So I guess we are in agreement on one thing at least:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,333 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Off topic, but how’s the economic situation outlook in CA?
    The State run by the GOP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Overheal wrote: »
    The State run by the GOP?

    Correction... RINO (see what the Kennedy clan does to you ;))


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,333 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Correction... RINO (see what the Kennedy clan does to you ;))
    Funny, Schwarzenegger doesnt show up on any of those lists. The governor's own Wiki also fails to mention RINO or Republican in Name Only.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    So I guess we are in agreement on one thing at least:P

    Détente? :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Overheal wrote: »
    Funny, Schwarzenegger doesnt show up on any of those lists. The governor's own Wiki also fails to mention RINO or Republican in Name Only.

    LOL... Wrong picture. Here you go.

    reagan_rino.jpg


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