Champions league draw

Johner

Milan United

MementoMori

AC Milan v Utd

thorbarry

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Give it a break ffs, I was speculating based on opinion. What pretty much 99% of this forum is all about.

(anyone else think that rolleyes smiley makes you want to track down the person that posted it and cave their face in with a lump hammer? No? Just me?)

so was I, and you called me Alex... can i not speculate too?

That_Guy

Stuttgart V Barcelona
Olympiakos V Bordeaux
Inter Milan V Chelsea (Nice)
Bayern Munich V Fiorentina (Potential for a cracker imo)
CSKA Moscow V Sevilla
Lyon V Real Madrid (Could be a cracker)
Porto V Arsenal
AC Milan V Manchester United (Tough one I think)

Insect Overlord

Stuttgart v Barcelona
Olympiakos v Bordeaux
Inter v Chelsea
Bayern v Fiorentina
CSKA v Seville
Lyon - Real
Porto v Arsenal
AC Milan v Utd

Some great games to look forward to in there.

ntlbell

awesome.

Johner

Two tough ones for Chelsea and United to be honest.

MagicMarker

Beckham in OT:)

Aidric

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Inter v Chelsea

Lyon - Real

AC Milan v Utd

Ties of the round for me.

Iron Hide

Barca through
Bordeaux through
I'd love to see Inter through but i honestly cant call it
Bayern through
Sevilla through after two absolutely manky games
Lyon through
Arsenal through
United fan but couldn't call it either way

eagle eye

You would nearly think it was rigged, Platini giving out about the English sides last year and they get the worst of the draw.

I still think they will both progress though.

MementoMori

Tastiest tie is probably Moutinho at the bridge.

Milan for Utd is interesting.

Porto not too bad for Arsenal

15 mins for faffing then 10 mins for draw.

Expect the same for the Europa league expect the draw portion to be a bit longer.

Degag

Am i the only one who thinks Lyon have a serious chance of turning Madrid over?

gimmick

All the top seeds should progress without any problems. Bayern and Milan were the toughies. Man U should easily dispose on Milan. Bayern V Fiore could be interesting.

Glad Barca got Stuttgart. About the best draw on offer.

Jordonvito

Degag wrote: »

Am i the only one who thinks Lyon have a serious chance of turning Madrid over?

agree with you on that one, munich fiorentina will be a decent enough game too.




Who did liverpool get . . . . .oh wait.

That_Guy

Who did Liverpool get?........................

Sorry.

abouttobebanned

United will tear lumps out of AC Milan, home and away.

That_Guy

Jordonvito wrote: »

Who did liverpool get . . . . .oh wait.

Great minds mate.

Iron Hide

Degag wrote: »

Am i the only one who thinks Lyon have a serious chance of turning Madrid over?

Nope. Adios Galacticos!!!

MementoMori

Final leg of some matches will be on Paddy's Day, which could be a bit strange.

Iron Hide

abouttobebanned wrote: »

United will tear lumps out of AC Milan, home and away.

i'll believe that when i see it, then again deportivo whacked them 4-0 a few seasons back if i'm right...

Jordonvito

That_Guy wrote: »

Great minds mate.

ha, it had to be said.

That_Guy

abouttobebanned wrote: »

United will tear lumps out of AC Milan, home and away.

It's a possibility. They're not the same team they were a few years ago anyway. I don't reckon it'll be a landslide victory for United but I think they will progress, but I think it'll be a tougher two games than you think.

Would actually like to see United get through because I hate the way AC Milan play.

abouttobebanned

Red Storm wrote: »

i'll believe that when i see it, then again deportivo whacked them 4-0 a few seasons back if i'm right...

I've watched Milan a lot this season, they really are a dying team.

Kev_ps3

abouttobebanned wrote: »

United will tear lumps out of AC Milan, home and away.

We have a terrible record against them in the champ league. It will be tight!

Ush1

Degag wrote: »

Am i the only one who thinks Lyon have a serious chance of turning Madrid over?

History certainly on our side.

Mars Bar

MagicMarker wrote: »

Beckham in OT:)

Never been to a United match but with Beckham being my hero since I was knee high, I think it might be time to pop that cherry!

Which tie will be the home tie?

Jordonvito

mars bar wrote: »

Never been to a United match but with Beckham being my hero since I was knee high, I think it might be time to pop that cherry!

Which tie will be the home tie?

the second one

Iron Hide

I reckon Bayern in the final anyways, just fancy them this year tbh... Hopefully against United, 10 years on from the Treble and all that guff, but i reckon it'll be Barca-Bayern Finale this year

adamski8

lyon madrid: YAWN seems like we get to see this fixture ever year!

Nulty

Lads, these draws are some of the most predictable of any sport.

Ronaldo and United went back to Lisbon
Torres and Liverpool went back to Madrid

Mourinho was likely to go back to Chelsea any time
Beckham back at United was one I hadn't foreseen but doesn't suprise me.

I thought united might get Real in the group stages coz of Ronaldo but....

They sent Kaka back to Milan instead.

Anyone else think of any obvious 'coincidences?'

That_Guy

Red Storm wrote: »

I reckon Bayern in the final anyways, just fancy them this year tbh... Hopefully against United, 10 years on from the Treble and all that guff, but i reckon it'll be Barca-Bayern Finale this year

I actually think Fiorentina will pip them to it. They'll give Bayern a game. I've no doubt about it.

Chelsea to fall again in the quest for big ears

Fuhrer

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

We have a terrible record against them in the champ league. It will be tight!

a terrible record against their good teams.

That_Guy

Nulty wrote: »

Lads, these draws are some of the most predictable of any sport.

Ronaldo and United went back to Lisbon
Torres and Liverpool went back to Madrid

Mourinho was likely to go back to Chelsea any time
Beckham back at United was one I hadn't foreseen but doesn't suprise me.

I thought united might get Real in the group stages coz of Ronaldo but....

They sent Kaka back to Milan instead.

Anyone else think of any obvious 'coincidences?'

These "coincidences" were bound to happen at one stage. Sure there's only 16 teams involved and the chances were always gonna be high that one or two of these ties were gonna happen.

adamski8

Nulty wrote: »

Lads, these draws are some of the most predictable of any sport.

Ronaldo and United went back to Lisbon
Torres and Liverpool went back to Madrid

Mourinho was likely to go back to Chelsea any time
Beckham back at United was one I hadn't foreseen but doesn't suprise me.

I thought united might get Real in the group stages coz of Ronaldo but....

They sent Kaka back to Milan instead.

Anyone else think of any obvious 'coincidences?'

What other sports are you comparing draws in soccer to???? Im struggling to thing of sports that arent draws based on pure seeding!
I think the rest of your post may be because the top teams buy players off each and play each other every year in a knockout competetion!

steps_3314

Have being there any dates set for Uniteds home game against AC Milan.

Would like to book some flights.

Also is there a chance they could re-arrange the game as if you think about it you will have sets of fans from Chelsea and Man Utd in Milan for the home leg the week before at the same time with a possibility of trouble.

Pepe LeFrits

Include the various restrictions with regards to countries, teams from the same group etc and it really isn't that surprising.

It's not like this is Mourinho's first time in the CL knockout with Inter either. If Chelsea had drawn Milan you'd be talking about the 'coincidence' of Ancelotti playing his old team.

magma69

Barcelona beat Stuttgart
Bordeaux beat Olympiacos
Chelsea beat Inter
Bayern beat Fiorentina
CSKA beat Sevilla
Real beat Lyon
United beat Milan

The Cska fixture is a tough one to call. I think the rest are fairly safe. Maybe one upset.

magma69

magma69 wrote: »

Barcelona beat Stuttgart
Bordeaux beat Olympiacos
Chelsea beat Inter
Bayern beat Fiorentina
CSKA beat Sevilla
Real beat Lyon
United beat Milan

The Cska fixture is a tough one to call. I think the rest are fairly safe. Maybe one upset.

United and Chelsea safe?? LOL

Johner

Sevilla will beat CSKA with relative ease.

Liam O

Johner wrote: »

Sevilla will beat CSKA with relative ease.

can't say I agree with that. CSKA showed they are formidable in the group stages. Only problem is that they'll be missing their CBs for the first game which could be vital.

Iron Hide

steps_3314 wrote: »

Have being there any dates set for Uniteds home game against AC Milan.

Would like to book some flights.

Also is there a chance they could re-arrange the game as if you think about it you will have sets of fans from Chelsea and Man Utd in Milan for the home leg the week before at the same time with a possibility of trouble.

No you wont because AC and Inter share the same stadium and so cant play their hom legs on consecutive days...

Pepe LeFrits

Times like this I wish I was neutral. Porto - Arsenal is going to be so boring and it means I'll miss either Inter - Chelsea or Milan - United

marwelie

steps_3314 wrote: »

Have being there any dates set for Uniteds home game against AC Milan.

Would like to book some flights.

Also is there a chance they could re-arrange the game as if you think about it you will have sets of fans from Chelsea and Man Utd in Milan for the home leg the week before at the same time with a possibility of trouble.

First leg away on either February 16th,17th, 23rd or 24th
Second leg home on either March 9th,10th, 16th or 17th

Milan and Inter ground share so United and Chelski won't be able to play their away legs on the same night. Its likely United will be there one week and Chelski the next. I'd say it would be highly unlikely they would be both given away legs in the same week.

Johner

Liam O wrote: »

can't say I agree with that. CSKA showed they are formidable in the group stages. Only problem is that they'll be missing their CBs for the first game which could be vital.

They scraped through didn't they?

Sevilla are quality, I'll be putting my money on them anyway.

Pepe LeFrits

marwelie wrote: »

Milan and Inter ground share so United and Chelski won't be able to play their away legs on the same night. Its likely United will be there one week and Chelski the next. I'd say it would be highly unlikely they would be both given away legs in the same week.

You beauty! Hope!

Liam O

Johner wrote: »

They scraped through didn't they?

Sevilla are quality, I'll be putting my money on them anyway.

they got through ahead of the German champions though, Wolfsburg were one of the dark horses in the draw and are a very good team.

MementoMori

There are 8 game days for 16 games (2 games a night), so depending on the fixtures should be able to see most of the best games.

eZe^

Johner wrote: »

Sevilla will beat CSKA with relative ease.

Wanna bet? Sevilla are the very definition of giant killers, I'd be much more confident of them knocking out Man Utd, Chelsea, A.C, Inter, Barcelona, Madrid, than I would against the likes of CSKA or Stuttgart. That's actually the very definition of Sevilla's biggest nightmare draw.


Hleb returns to the Camp Nou.
Mourinho returns to Stamford Bridge.
Beckham returns to Old Trafford.
Benzema returns to the Stade Gerland.

Some tasty ties there, with Fiorentina vs Bayern being the most evenly poised really. People are massively overrating Bayern now after that one win in Turin, if anybody watched Juve that day they were absolutely atrocious, an embarrassment. And Barca absolutely drubbed Bayern last year home and away in the K.O stages. I reckon they'll lost to Fiorentina.

Inter have been awful really this entire campaign, so it wouldn't surprise me if they ended up randomly beating Chelsea, only to crash out spectacularly in the next round.

I think Madrid will be quite happy with Lyon, as they are a team that will allow Real to play their attacking game, they don't defend as cohesively as a CSKA or an Inter. Good draw for them, and they'll be desperate to prove they can make it past the 8th finals. (I'll obviously be delighted if they dont!)

Don't think Man Utd vs A.C Milan is as clear cut as people are making it out to be. Utd are obviously favourites, and will probably go through, but A.C are the exact team set up to cause problems for Utd. Pato and Ronaldinho will be key if the Rossoneiri have a chance of progressing, good game though!

Arsenal will be delighted with Porto, even though Porto are a very strong side. The key imo, is that Porto will allow Arsenal space on the ball, so they'll be able to play their usual ball game, and eventually they'll score. It's just a question of whether they can not concede.

Barca got what looks like the easiest draw of the round. I was hoping for A.C Milan, or Porto, as I think we could impressively dispatch those teams and set out a signal of intent. But Stuttgart is a nice fixture, not far travelling, a relatively solid team with some good attacking players. However, Barca played them before in the group stages and comfortably beat them over two legs. If Guardiola and Barca want to prove they are still the best then of course they'll have to beat Stuttgart, won't be easy, but it's pretty much the best draw Barca could have hoped for.