EPL Team of the Year 2009 - Left Back [mod warning - POST #79]

carlop

I voted Evra, then I remembered its over they year so it has to be Cole. Evra had a bit of a slump in form at the end of last season. This season both him and Cole have been immense so I let my bias separate them.

CHD

greendom wrote: »

Only just, according to the poll.

That is because the clueless United fans will vote for Evra.

Bandit12

Hurts me to say it but Cashley is the best out there.
Lol. 3 votes for Kilbane

Mr.Nice Guy

Evra is the better player. In the 2008/09 season Chelsea's defence was very dodgy whereas United's defence was setting records. This was perhaps the difference in United winning the league.

Close to halfway through the 09/10 season and Chelsea again look poor defensively, whereas Evra has been terrific as the only United regular to avoid injury problems.

OPENROAD

Ashley Cole

I wish he had never left us, a world class left back.


Why oh why Ashley

Frisbee

Baines

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OPENROAD wrote: »

Ashley Cole

I wish he had never left us, a world class left back.


Why oh why Ashley

The Volt

Frisbee wrote: »

Baines

Had a cracking 08/09 but has really been off the boil thus far this season. Especially now that his partnership with Pienaar has fallen asunder due to his injury spell and Moyes' preference to play Bilyaletdinov on the left.

curry-muff

CHD wrote: »

That is because the clueless United fans will vote for Evra.

Thats a stupid point because everyone who doesn't support United hates United.

Most people will vote for who they honestly think is better, the rest shouldn't waste their own time.

Evra is better, thats why we vote for him.

CHD

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Evra is the better player. In the 2008/09 season Chelsea's defence was very dodgy whereas United's defence was setting records. This was perhaps the difference in United winning the league.

Close to halfway through the 09/10 season and Chelsea again look poor defensively, whereas Evra has been terrific as the only United regular to avoid injury problems.

:pac:

You may aswell say I pick Evra because I support United.

Mr.Nice Guy

CHD wrote: »

:pac:

You may aswell say I pick Evra because I support United.

Huh? Your contribution to this discussion was:

CHD wrote:

A.Cole > Evra

Followed by:

CHD wrote:

...the clueless United fans will vote for Evra

At least I backed up my view.

CHD

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Huh? Your contribution to this discussion was:



Followed by:



At least I backed up my view.

Because it is as simple as this...

A.Cole > Evra

Both quality players but Cole is better. All day, everyday.

Your contribution may aswell have been I pick Evra because I support United. Take the red tinted specs off.

d22ontour

CHD wrote: »

Because it is as simple as this...

A.Cole > Evra

Both quality players but Cole is better. All day, everyday.

Your contribution may aswell have been I pick Evra because I support United. Take the red tinted specs off.

So cole has been better all day everyday resulting in Chelsea winning an unprecedented 5 in a row ? Not really , infact you will see that Evra has been the best left full bar Clichy for 3 years now resulting in his club dominating english football with him being a huge benefactor.Cole has contributed, what now ?

Evra brings misadventure to the table,Cole brings static moves more often than not,your style of play hasn't changed to adventurous by some distance yet.Don't kid your yourself please, Cole doesn't have the balls to try anything adventurous, he is a systematic fullback who overlaps when the conditions allow it.

dreamers75

d22ontour wrote: »

he is a systematic fullback who overlaps when the conditions allow it.

When the manager allows it.


under wenger he was a rampaging fullback with chelsea hes a decent defender but lacks the offensive edge Wenger allowed him.


Evra wins it for me simple for this attacking abilities, Cole is at the stage where Foul the RW is an acceptable way of defending and he knows it.

therokerroar

Ashley Cole.

The best full back in the world.

CHD

d22ontour wrote: »

So cole has been better all day everyday resulting in Chelsea winning an unprecedented 5 in a row ? Not really , infact you will see that Evra has been the best left full bar Clichy for 3 years now resulting in his club dominating english football with him being a huge benefactor.Cole has contributed, what now ?

Evra brings misadventure to the table,Cole brings static moves more often than not,your style of play hasn't changed to adventurous by some distance yet.Don't kid your yourself please, Cole doesn't have the balls to try anything adventurous, he is a systematic fullback who overlaps when the conditions allow it.

When you learn something about football comeback and read this again so you can laugh at how silly you are/were.

lol at you! So it is down to Evra that United won titles? O'Shea must be the best right back in the league too then by your logic. Berbatov must be the best striker by your logic. Better players can play in teams that don't win titles.

Do you see your clueless ways now?

JPA

I voted Warnock but I wish I'd voted Cole to help stop this silly argument.

Y2J_MUFC

You support Chelsea and you picked Ashley Cole?

But you moan when United fans pick Evra?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

OPENROAD

Well I'm an Arsenal fan and voted for Cole.

nicklauski

Evra. Hands down.

therokerroar

I'm a Sunderland fan and voted for Cole as he's far superior to Evra in everyway, he even has a much better missus.

curry-muff

CHD wrote: »

Because it is as simple as this...

A.Cole > Evra

Both quality players but Cole is better. All day, everyday.

Your contribution may aswell have been I pick Evra because I support United. Take the red tinted specs off.

Your stance is pathetic, using the old United fans are biased card just to get one of your teams players on the team. Give it a rest.

fkt

Ashley Cole absolutely no doubt about it, but the team has already been made a mockery of so I won't be votng.

CHD

curry-muff wrote: »

Your stance is pathetic, using the old United fans are biased card just to get one of your teams players on the team. Give it a rest.

lol yeah it means so much to me :rolleyes: I'm pointing out how your all foolish and Cole is the best LB in the EPL.

<snip> pointless to debate </snip>

The Volt

fkt wrote: »

Ashley Cole absolutely no doubt about it, but the team has already been made a mockery of so I won't be votng.

By your logic are you surprised Kilbane only got 3 votes?

eZe^

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NaiveMelodies

I think Coles got that little bit extra over Evra, but both of them are more than likely one and two in the world at the mo in that position.

Liam O

Evra has more pace and better link up play. I believe he is also a better defender than Cole. Cole has a great final ball which he definitely has over Evra but imo Evra is the better all round player than Cole.

CHD

Liam O wrote: »

Evra has more pace and better link up play. I believe he is also a better defender than Cole. Cole has a great final ball which he definitely has over Evra but imo Evra is the better all round player than Cole.

How often do you watch Cole? Cole's link up play is amazing.

Peyton Manning

CHD wrote: »

How often do you watch Cole? Cole's link up play is amazing.

Evra's is superior. Much better one-touch play and technique, and has a fantastic weighted pass which doesnt get picked up on as much as other aspects of his game. And yup, Ive seen Ashely Cole play quite a bit - Chelski are always on the box these days.

Pro. F

Cole just ahead of Evra for consistency over the calendar year. When both on form there is nothing between them imo.

Honourable mention for Figueroa too.

Paul Tergat

Well this is really annoying.

Its clearly between Cole and Evra as nobody else even comes close to them despite some of the ridiculous names mentioned and stupid votes cast.

But whats most annoying is people saying that one of Evra or Cole is wayyy better than the other or that its in anyway clear cut. They are so evenly matched.

Peyton Manning

p_larkin99 wrote: »

But whats most annoying is people saying that one of Evra or Cole is wayyy better than the other or that its in anyway clear cut. They are so evenly matched.

This.

Who the fook voted for Givet or Insua?

eagle eye

p_larkin99 wrote: »

Well this is really annoying.

Its clearly between Cole and Evra as nobody else even comes close to them despite some of the ridiculous names mentioned and stupid votes cast.

But whats most annoying is people saying that one of Evra or Cole is wayyy better than the other or that its in anyway clear cut. They are so evenly matched.

Totally agree with this.

I personally went for Cole but this time last year it was Evra for me, I just feel that Cole has stepped it up over the last 12 months and just shades it.

I see 6 votes for Stephen Warnock which imo is just mental, but then you have to accept that there will be jokers voting.

mayordenis

Archimedes wrote: »

This.

Who the fook voted for Givet or Insua?

Bit shocked to see Insua voted for when he's not the best left back at Liverpool even.

eagle eye

Archimedes wrote: »

This.

Who the fook voted for Givet or Insua?

Voting for Givet was a lot more sensible than voting for Warnock. At least he played the position most of the year unlike Warnock who spent pretty much all of the second half of last season in the centre of midfield for Blackburn Rovers.

ciaran76

mayordenis wrote: »

Bit shocked to see Insua voted for when he's not the best left back at Liverpool even.

That there is the problem of democracy anyone can vote no matter how mad there opinions are. Lol

That_Guy

I voted for Evra.

Xavi6

eagle eye wrote: »

Voting for Givet was a lot more sensible than voting for Warnock. At least he played the position most of the year unlike Warnock who spent pretty much all of the second half of last season in the centre of midfield for Blackburn Rovers.

You're forgetting the fact that Givet is quite awful at left back due to being a centre half by trade.

eagle eye

Xavi6 wrote: »

You're forgetting the fact that Givet is quite awful at left back due to being a centre half by trade.

Having seen both him and Steven Warnock play there I can tell you that not only did he play there consistently over the last year but he is a better left back also.

Johner

If A.Cole played for United its obvious that he would be winning and United fans would think he was better.

It is very close though. The best two in the world no doubt.

The Volt

I voted for Cole based purely on his consistency. I thought Evra ended last season very poorly, almost lazily. Going forward, he is more wasteful than Cole in relation to crossing and passing. Cole is faster, better defender, an all round better player IMO

DSB

Evra FTW.

PHB

Johner wrote: »

If A.Cole played for United its obvious that he would be winning and United fans would think he was better.

Em, Given one the last poll, despite VDS breaking the keeping record last year. So I think that post is just bull****.

Evra and Cole are the best left backs in the world. IMO, Cole at his peak is better than Evra. But Cole doesnt play in an attacking team that utilises him as much as he could be. Thus EVra is better, but I do think that if Cole was in the United team, he'd be better.

Kenteach

More than 2 out of every 5 voters, so far, think Evra is the best left back in EPL. While I don't want to see petty squabbling or childish posts, I still would really love to know how many of Evra's voters are ManU fans. They are quite entitled to make that vote, just interested, thats all! Would love to know the same about Cole's votes (how many are from Chelsea fans). I don't follow anyone in England so i don't have an agenda, purely being nosey not mischievous.

Pepe LeFrits

PHB wrote: »

Em, Given one the last poll, despite VDS breaking the keeping record last year. So I think that post is just bull****.

Yes, but Given is Irish!

Still though, doesn't upset me too greatly to see Cashley losing a popularity contest. Shame!

Johner

PHB wrote: »

Em, Given one the last poll, despite VDS breaking the keeping record last year. So I think that post is just bull****.

Oh come on seriously Given is Irish and how is it bull, there is a lot more United fans here so obviously Evra was going to get the edge.

eddiehead

PHB wrote: »

Em, Given one the last poll, despite VDS breaking the keeping record last year. So I think that post is just bull****.

VDS played well because of who was in front of him.
Given plays well despite who's in front of him.

Right now Given is undoubtedly a superior keeper to VDS. Cole V Evra is always going to be a much closer contest and I think its pretty obvious the United vote swings it in Evra's favour.

eagle eye

Eh lads this is the fullback thread.:pac:

I see the most of the United fans have voted, the Chelsea fans will be in tomorrow to make this very close imo

eddiehead

eagle eye wrote: »

Eh lads this is the fullback thread.:pac:

I see the most of the United fans have voted, the Chelsea fans will be in tomorrow to make this very close imo

Lol, yeah, all 8 of us :pac: