Dr Who season 5

popebenny16

Killer_banana wrote: »

Oh I quite like that sound of long story arcs. One of the the problems with a lot of RTD's stories was they weren't given long enough to develop so they were very rushed and all over he place as a result. I like the idea of stories that progress slowly because it suggests more developed, coherent plots and, most likely, a lot less running...although I never minded the running quite as much as some viewers.:p

these will be proper long story arcs, not the Bad Wolf / Doctor Donna (where paying someone a glib compliment during a series somehow counts as an arc "you're brilliant you are Donna!") ones. That said, the Saxon/Master one worked ok.

anyway, here is a spoilertastic thing is saw on 't interweb

"new mouth, new rules" says 11 in the 11th hour. Hurrah, no more moping over Rose and angst for starting the Time War in Genesis of the Daleks/Rememberance of the Daleks (whichever one you fancy - i go for the latter myself as he did blow up Skaro) this guy is a good old fashioned reboot

also

he picks up his outfit not in the tardis walk in wardrobe but in a hospital, just like three (or was it four, technically, i cant remember its almost one am you know) and eight did

nucking futs

Just jumping ahead a bit, Matt Smith and Karen Gillan are both confirmed for the Christmas special as well as the 2011 series which is good. Can you believe that it'll be the first time that both doctor and companion will be staying on together for two seasons since the show returned? :eek:

pixelburp

More clips from the first episode; there's nothing overly interesting happening in them, bar a "comedy" walking-into-a-tree moment & Amy's general loveliness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwdQSx_Plak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBTIdYhBuHE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9WFWano02I

K-9

The Eighth Doctor is on Watch TV for those with Sky, tomorrow at 1.50 pm.

Killer_banana

Was just watching The End of Time and when talking about the two Time Lords hiding there faces Razillon said 'They will stand monument to their shame like the Weeping Angels of old.' Okay so this may just be me reading too much into things but Stephen Moffat said

that this season we are going to find out more about what the Weeping Angels and what they can do. Razillon could have just been referring to the similarity in pose or could it be a hint that the Weeping Angels have some link to the Time Lords or are even former Time Lords? I'm probably completely wrong here it's just when he said 'the Weeping Angels of old' it made me think that it sounded like some sort of Gallifreyan custom no longer carried out. I don't know, like I said I'm probably reading far too much into things. Just thought I'd share me theory. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

nucking futs

Killer_banana wrote: »

Was just watching The End of Time and when talking about the two Time Lords hiding there faces Razillon said 'They will stand monument to their shame like the Weeping Angels of old.' Okay so this may just be me reading too much into things but Stephen Moffat said

that this season we are going to find out more about what the Weeping Angels and what they can do. Razillon could have just been referring to the similarity in pose or could it be a hint that the Weeping Angels have some link to the Time Lords or are even former Time Lords? I'm probably completely wrong here it's just when he said 'the Weeping Angels of old' it made me think that it sounded like some sort of Gallifreyan custom no longer carried out. I don't know, like I said I'm probably reading far too much into things. Just thought I'd share me theory. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

I was just watching that episode as well, I noticed the Weeping Angels reference as well but kind of went "Hm, that's interesting" but didn't give it much thought. Your theory is intriguing though, especially since

the two were covering their faces

in that episode.

By the way, is it just me or did those episodes make much more sense watching them a second time?

Killer_banana

nucking futs wrote: »

I was just watching that episode as well, I noticed the Weeping Angels reference as well but kind of went "Hm, that's interesting" but didn't give it much thought. Your theory is intriguing though, especially since

the two were covering their faces

in that episode.

By the way, is it just me or did those episodes make much more sense watching them a second time?

Yeah I picked up a lot more and understood the plot a lot better after re-watching them...still doesn't make the plot any better though. =P

popebenny16

Killer_banana wrote: »

Yeah I picked up a lot more and understood the plot a lot better after re-watching them...still doesn't make the plot any better though. =P

the weeping angels reference was the way they covered their faces, "of old" was referring to how they existed long ago.

as for The Eleventh Hour

"New voice new rules" sayeth 11, and the opinion of those who saw it is that the agnsty and moody doc is gone and we have a happy doc

it also appears that 11 abandons Amy for a few years, and she isnt happy about it, but i am not clear if this is a plot line for ep 8 or 1 (i only think one because they mentioned it in the preview of 1 in Heat mag)

Killer_banana

Well I did say I was probably reading too much into things. :P

Ziggy_1972

Well, I liked it. The first story is always going to be difficult because it has to set up the characters, but I think Matt will work out well.
Not too sure about the re-vamped theme music.

Ridley

I liked it.

Should have just

crashed the TARDIS from the start and none of those hanging shenanigans

and I don't like that it sounds as though the middle 8 has been taken out of the end theme but those are my only real complaints. Tweed suit DO NOT WANT.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

I loved it... Thought it was awesome... Also, is all the discussion gonna be in this thread or will there be separate threads for each episode?

iguana

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Also, is all the discussion gonna be in this thread or will there be separate threads for each episode?

There is this one about this episode.

matrim

Ok, I'm not sure if this is deserving of a new thread or not but it is related to season 5 and I think of interest.

It contains a spoiler so be warned.

River Song is set to appear in episode 4.

The last time she was in it (the library) she mentions that the doctor opens the tardis with a click of the fingers. DT does this at the end of the episode but the next time (I think) we see it is when Matt Smith opens the tardis at the start of episode 1 this season.

Could this be some foreshadowing for stuff that happens this season, with this being the first time the doctor meets her, and leading to him revealing his real name and giving away a sonic screwdriver.

Ziggy_1972

Alright, but how does she recognise him? I know that Timelords always recognise each other, regardless of their body, but there has been no suggestion that River is a Timelord. If she knows him with Matt's body, why does she recognise DT as her doctor, husband or whatever....
By the way, did anybody see the Tom Baker interview on Sky Arts? Marvellous,.....

pixelburp

I'm not sure that she did recognise him: I don't recall her mentioning his name. I assumed that this upcoming story was going to show their first adventure & meeting, rather than a "oh it's you" continuation?

Killer_banana

I think the next episode is going to be their first meeting (from River's perspective) or if nto then she will have seen him in matt's body before.

As for in the library she sent him a message on the psychic paper (although she didn't mean to send it back as far as she did) and I'm guessing she just presumed it was him because who else could it be in a deserted library?

Ziggy_1972

pixelburp wrote: »

I'm not sure that she did recognise him: I don't recall her mentioning his name. I assumed that this upcoming story was going to show their first adventure & meeting, rather than a "oh it's you" continuation?

No, I meant that she recognised him as DT. I'm presuming that this story is their first meeting from her point of view.

Daemos

Just found this clip from one of the River Song episodes that explains why the Tardis goes "vroop" when it lands, found it funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECKMwGJNJLg

Sleepy

Love it!

popebenny16

The entire angle of how she finds 10 so old in Silence of the Library is intresting. When SM wrote it it was not cast in stone (no pun) that DT would be leaving. On the shoot of Silence of the Library he told DT that he was writing fnarg 1 on monday and he needed a decision, he had two different ways of doing it depending on who was the Doctor.

So it wasnt always 11 she was going to meet.

Wonder how that fits in with her knowing all about the Tardis....

iUseVi

That clip is excellent. Can't wait for this episode now.

Doctor DooM

Wait.


The sonic screw driver River had was a modified version of DT's, which is now destroyed... how does he give it to her?


Wibbley wobbley...

Daemos

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Wait.


The sonic screw driver River had was a modified version of DT's, which is now destroyed... how does he give it to her?


Wibbley wobbley...

Well The Doctor now knows what her one looked like, and since it being similar to DTs he probably knows that it has to look that way for things to go the way they went in SITL, so he makes a new one specially for her perhaps?

Killer_banana

DaPoolRulz wrote: »

Well The Doctor now knows what her one looked like, and since it being similar to DTs he probably knows that it has to look that way for things to go the way they went in SITL, so he makes a new one specially for her perhaps?

I thought that the screwdriver he has now was the one he gives her. Was that not why Moffat destroyed the old one?

Daemos

No the one he has now has a green/yellow light and much bigger. The one he gave her was basically his old one with a few extras added to it (I only remember all this because I re-watched those episodes the other night btw, it's not that I have a good memory )

popebenny16

DaPoolRulz wrote: »

No the one he has now has a green/yellow light and much bigger. The one he gave her was basically his old one with a few extras added to it (I only remember all this because I re-watched those episodes the other night btw, it's not that I have a good memory )

it is the old one with a finger ring, some extra gadgets at the end, a new light setting and the memory chip but in. I have one at home .

in a previous story... was it Masque of Madregoria (sp...) the fourth Doctor showed Sarah the old console room, which had an old sonic in it, so maybe he has them lying around.

Doctor DooM

popebenny16 wrote: »

it is the old one with a finger ring, some extra gadgets at the end, a new light setting and the memory chip but in. I have one at home .

in a previous story... was it Masque of Madregoria (sp...) the fourth Doctor showed Sarah the old console room, which had an old sonic in it, so maybe he has them lying around.

It explodulated!

Anyway there's a million and 1 ways she could have gotten it, but it's fun to notice these things.

Pittens

No, I meant that she recognised him as DT. I'm presuming that this story is their first meeting from her point of view.

She explains that in the latest episode, she has a book with all the doctors she meets in it.

Ziggy_1972

Hmm, in the DT episode they hinted that she could be his wife, but they've pushed that too far, so she's obviousely not.
So who is she? Is she a con-artist? Could she possibly be Jenny (or Geni, or however it's spelled)?