Retarded driving I seen yesterday

cormie

Thanks for clearing that up. Passat driver definitely in the wrong here. As you described, you were right to stick to your decision to continue to overtake. No matter how much faster you were going than the cars you were overtaking. The fact of the matter is, if you're going even just a little faster, it's fair to overtake. People complain about slow vehicles overtaking other slow vehicles but it's fair for them to do this. In my luton transit, it's terribly slow to overtake but when there is a suitable gap I'll do it. If I'm gained on in the time I'm half way through the manoeuvre, it's fair for me to complete it. If I'm gained on before, I'll move back in and wait again.

Pkiernan

My reaction to this situation would depend on what I was driving.

If driving the old battered pickup, then the car behind would be performing a real-life brake system check when the dog/child/horse/slower vehicle he didn't see appeared magically in front of me.

If driving my nice car, then I would just move over when safe to do so.

A lot of drivers fail to appreciate how dangerous the act of driving can be. After 22 years of driving, I tend to stick to the left most lanes whenever possible.

omega man

In fairness I think the OP was in the right in this case. It's the 3 lane M50 scenario that is really raising my blood pressure! The OP's example happens now and then (always will sadly) but not on the scale of the 'mass' ignorance of drivers on the M50 etc.

folan

*dont mention the war*

HermitHorace

I had to endure some lady strolling along at just over 30mph in parts on the N7 in tipp. Now yes there was some snow on the ground but come on, 30 mph! She quite happily strolled away with 15+ cars accumulating behind her.

When I eventually passed her out, she looked at me as if I was a lunatic.

People like her will never be in an accident but will cause some.

antodeco

norrie rugger wrote: »

hmm, you never read road signs then?
"Slow lane ends in 200m" is a favourite of mine.

You know exactly what I mean, in referrence to the inside lane, and if it is good enough to be used on government road signs, then it should be good enough for you.

Firstly, nothing the Government does is good enough for me at this point, but this is not the political forum. The slow lane you referenced in your OP, was on a Motorway. There is NO slow lane on a motorway. Yes, I did know what you meant, but doesnt mean it you are correct in your understanding. If its good enough for you, it doesnt mean it exists.

norrie rugger

antodeco wrote: »

Firstly, nothing the Government does is good enough for me at this point, but this is not the political forum. The slow lane you referenced in your OP, was on a Motorway. There is NO slow lane on a motorway. Yes, I did know what you meant, but doesnt mean it you are correct in your understanding. If its good enough for you, it doesnt mean it exists.

There is a difference in referring to the overtaking lane as the "fast lane" and the inside lane as slow lane, as that is where you are meant to drive.
Calling the overtaking lane the Fast Lane indicates that you are allowed to remain driving there, as long as you are going fast. Calling it the slow lane is a figure of speech, incorrect technically but gets the meaning through.

Being pedantic and having an insulting manner in your responce post, is not conducive to discussion, as it completely takes a tangent from the discussion at hand

antodeco

norrie rugger wrote: »

There is a difference in referring to the overtaking lane as the "fast lane" and the inside lane as slow lane, as that is where you are meant to drive.
Calling the overtaking lane the Fast Lane indicates that you are allowed to remain driving there, as long as you are going fast. Calling it the slow lane is a figure of speech, incorrect technically but gets the meaning through.

Being pedantic and having an insulting manner in your responce post, is not conducive to discussion, as it completely takes a tangent from the discussion at hand

I do believe it was your pedantics and insulting manner of my original post that started this. First stone and all that. Anyway, I agree with you, this is holding nothing for the post. Agree to disagree over representative terminology and move on?

BlackWizard

Thread has kinda lost it's momentum... The OP needs to give us some extra vague information that could imply anything, from which we will tear each other apart over who is right or wrong.

roosterman71

BlackWizard wrote: »

Thread has kinda lost it's momentum... The OP needs to give us some extra vague information that could imply anything, from which we will tear each other apart over who is right or wrong.

Am, it was a black passat

stealthyspeeder

roosterman71 wrote: »

Am, it was a black passat

No need to be racist!!






Unless there was a Black Wizard Driving it?

funkyjebus

Retarded driving I seen SAW yesterday.

Spelling mistakes and typos can happen to anyone, but bad grammar's just bad grammar.

*Kol*

I would say the passat was carrying enough speed to pull in, pass and pull out but the gaps were a bit small to do this safely. From what the OP is saying, him and the car in the inner lane had to decellerate and/or brake to allow the passat to change lanes. That kind of weaving in and out of lanes is dangerous regardless of the road conditions, names/purposes of lanes.

If the OP judged that there wasn't enough room to move into the inner lane safely then that's his call. But at the same time there was enough room for the passat to get around him!!! (barely)

judas101

saw

pcardin

roosterman71 wrote: »

...some dick came flying up in a 08 Passat and then started flashing me to pull in...

ehh...another Passat driver with a "I think I own and drive Bentley" syndrome.

Alanstrainor

funkyjebus wrote: »

Retarded driving I seen SAW yesterday.

Spelling mistakes and typos can happen to anyone, but bad grammar's just bad grammar.

judas101 wrote: »

saw

What a great contribution to the thread. Here's an English forum where you can correct as much grammar as you like.

testarossa40

**EDIT** - have just read OP's clarification and now fully agree with him being blameless, but will leave the story below in for the laugh...

Sometimes its possible for "No way Ted" to override all common sense in the overtaking lane. I know because I succumbed to this mindset myself once a couple of years ago (on the N4 as it turned out!) only the red Mondeo behind turned out to be an unmarked Garda car, flicked on the flashing blues, pulled me over, and gave me a right old going over for 20 mins... Totally OTT of them but I had been holding them up from rushing to the opening of a new SPAR after all...:D

Nowadays I keep a wary eye on any Mondeos on the road

DubTony

Shame that doesn't happen more often.

smemon

The reality is, this is far from black and white. It all comes down to judgement imo and some people have better judgement than others.

OP is doing 120km/hr in overtaking lane. All we know is that there's a speeding passat coming up behind him. Lets say there's a tractor in the left lane 500m ahead doing 80km/hr.

You have to do several things in a split second;

• judge the speed at which the car behind you is travelling at and the distance between the two cars
• work out the difference in speed between you and him and work out approximately how long it will take for him to overtake you assuming he maintains speed and you maintain speed.
• accept that if you don't pull in now, you'll force him to slow down, lose momentum and therefore he'll be slower overtaking you if you decide to pull in a second later. This could then force you to braking harder than him in which case the decision to pull in has been a bad one.
• You also have to make sure no cars are behind the speeding passat, or behind you in any lane going faster than you are because if there are, they could overtake you after the passat and slow down your progress back in to the overtaking lane.

Tonnes of crap there which no book of rules can sum up in one line. It's all judgement.

I regret things every day on the roads - not overtaking that pleb in front when i had the chance to...

not pulling off in that missed split second when i had the chance to from a junction....

not moving in to the overtaking lane when i had the chance to and now i can't because i'm stuck behind a lorry and there's a mile long tail back in the overtaking lane...

Part and parcel of driving - and nothing you say or do will change it. You can't 'black and white' this sort of stuff. Some people are less intelligent than others (lets be blunt and honest about it) and that's reflected in some of the poor driving we see on a daily basis.

Spacial awareness, emotional intelligence, body language (of people & cars) etc... some people have the ability to read them, others don't.

stealthyspeeder

smemon wrote: »

Lets say there's a tractor in the left lane 500m ahead doing 80km/hr.

I'd pull in behind this sports Tractor and take a pic I think!

itarumaa

I don't understand that you don't seem to be able to overtake anymore without someone getting mad,

clear, dry road, opposite traffic was a far distance away and I collected enough speed, but no the driver had to flash lights and he/she tried even speed up.

Corkbah

itarumaa wrote: »

I don't understand that you don't seem to be able to overtake anymore without someone getting mad,

clear, dry road, opposite traffic was a far distance away and I collected enough speed, but no the driver had to flash lights and he/she tried even speed up.

he/she was prob busy listening to the radio or talking on the phone.....not paying attention and checking his/her mirrors.