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WHirl7

randylonghorn wrote: »

Lol, a lot of Germans do speak good English, but I'm not sure that's a good reason not to learn German!

Germany is one of the strongest / largest economies within the EU, which makes it a useful language ... on the other hand, a lot more people worldwide speak Spanish, and it's an easier language to learn.

In the end, it's up to you, not your guidance counsellor. And maybe you can take both in first year, depending on what course you're thinking of doing, and decide then? Languages are never a burden.

Well as it happens the course I want to do is Computer Science, Linguistics and German in TCD which can't be done with Spanish anway. Business with German and Spanish in DCU is one of my backups though!

And you don't get charged any extra for filling in your Level 7 list, you know.

Ah I know, it's just the way he was nagging me about it that annoyed me. Plus there really aren't any that interest me, I don't want to put some down purely for the sake of it.

Grindylow

I honestly don't have a clue. I'd love to do Primary Teaching/Secondary Teaching but realistically I'm not sure if I would get the points. Anyone got any recommendations of courses? My subjects are: Business, Economics, French & Biology. Preferably a course near Waterford, Cork, etc.. I really dislike Economics though, so I'm not looking into any Economics courses. I like business and can learn it easily. French I just chose because I might want to go to university, and Biology- I'm ok at it, but couldn't see myself being stuck in a job from it. Any ideas?

Geard

Marketing in Sligo anyone????

pathway33

Noel2k9 wrote: »

. I'd love to do Primary Teaching/Secondary Teaching but realistically I'm not sure if I would get the points. Anyone got any recommendations of courses?

The first thing you should do if you want to be a secondary teacher is check to see if your courses are listed on the list of approved degrees given on the teaching council website. Otherwise you will have to submit your degree after you complete it for validation and by looking at related posts on the teaching forum you will see what a pain that can be.

If you don't think you would get the points for a degree that leads directly to the PGDE then consider a level 7 course that can lead onto a required degree through transfer.

Lots of people will lower points have ended up with masters.

You should look at www.pac.ie as well to see the application procedure for the PGDE. You will notice that because of the fact there are an oversupply of business teachers that the points for business related degree holders are higher to get into the PGDE.

Don't know anything about primary except you need a C3 in leaving cert honours irish or else pass first year irish in college or do some diploma na gaeilge in NUI Maynooth.

Oh yeah and there's supposed to be no jobs for secondary teachers but it could be different in 5 years.

Grindylow

pathway33 wrote: »

The first thing you should do if you want to be a secondary teacher is check to see if your courses are listed on the list of approved degrees given on the teaching council website. Otherwise you will have to submit your degree after you complete it for validation and by looking at related posts on the teaching forum you will see what a pain that can be.

If you don't think you would get the points for a degree that leads directly to the PGDE then consider a level 7 course that can lead onto a required degree through transfer.

Lots of people will lower points have ended up with masters.

You should look at www.pac.ie as well to see the application procedure for the PGDE. You will notice that because of the fact there are an oversupply of business teachers that the points for business related degree holders are higher to get into the PGDE.

Don't know anything about primary except you need a C3 in leaving cert honours irish or else pass first year irish in college or do some diploma na gaeilge in NUI Maynooth.

Oh yeah and there's supposed to be no jobs for secondary teachers but it could be different in 5 years.

Yeah thats what everyone says really. This course looked really interesting, but everyone says there'd be no jobs in it.
Bachelor of Arts (Honours) in Communications & Public Relations CW808
Thanks for all the information by the way.

pathway33

Noel2k9 wrote: »

course looked really interesting, /quote]

well then you should definitely go for that course. There's no point putting down a course just because there's a better chance of a job at the end of it. You will not do as well in a course you don't enjoy. Often times the grade you get is more important than the actual degree (unless you are going for a specific profession). Lots of employers look for a higher second class honours in ANY degree and then they put you on a fast track graduate programme. It's a lot easier to get that grade in the course you enjoy.

laura93

Filled mine out today

1. PD101 - Primary Teaching
2. FR001 - Primary Teaching
3. CM001 - Primary Teaching
4. MH101 - Arts

TEMPLAR KNIGHT

hunter164 wrote: »

Anyone have a clue on how you defer for a year? Me Guidance Counsellor hasn't a clue...

did my leaving cert last year, when you get your offer (I did mine over the internet) and you accept it you get the option of differing the place for a year, after that i don't know what happens but i just remember seeing that option on mine!

cork*girl

our guidance counsellor is unbelievably stupid.. We dont really have a career class..she gives us frees all the time or just doesnt come to class. she says things that dont make sense. the only career she seems to know about is nursing! its a joke really. loads of people went to guidance counsellers outside of school for help because our one can do sweet feck all!

another thing she said to a person I know.. they want to do a plc course and she told them to go do something "proper". She hasnt a clue like..

DB10

If you registered before the 20th but dont have courses down are you charged 35 or 45??

Daragh101

DB10 wrote: »

If you registered before the 20th but dont have courses down are you charged 35 or 45??

35 i believe!

je suis awesome

im so confused. what are the disadvantages of picking arts and how many subjects do you study?

randylonghorn

je suis awesome wrote: »

im so confused. what are the disadvantages of picking arts and how many subjects do you study?

It varies from university to university, but as a general rule 3-4 in first year, 2 in subsequent years.

There are no specific disadvantages to picking arts as a degree, despite the inter-faculty slagging which tends to go on.

Ask yourself rather:

... What subjects are you interested in studying? Are these in the Arts / Humanities area?

... What do you want to do with your life? Is an Arts degree appropriate, or would a more narrowly geared job-training style degree be more appropriate?

In general, the Arts / Humanities focus more on a broadly based education, and fostering analytical / thinking / writing skills, rather than on training people for specific jobs.

Arts graduates go into a very wide range of fields, often specialising at postgraduate level either with a postgraduate diploma or a masters.

It's often a good option if you enjoy the subjects within the field, but are unsure of exactly what you want to do in 3-4 years.

Xtina!!

I feel paranoid and anxious now after reading this thread that was uploaded onto the HPAT and Medicine 2010 forum.
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055799819

Im repeating my leaving cert this year even though I got really high points last year (it was the HPAT that let me down:( and of which I am of course resitting), but I feel I might have made a really big mistake now by repeating, of which wasnt necessary for me to do. I thought medicine was what I wanted to do, I am aware of the pros and cons of a medical career but I didnt realise it was as harsh as this! Im now rethinking should I go down this road. Ive had problems even since last year deciding on other liable second options and I was wondereing if ye could give me some advice? Ye could be my career guidance counsellors! These are the other options I have brainstormed from the CAO handbook:

Veterinary Medicine UCD: Im unsure whether I would like this in the long run, a vet once told me that if someone likes animals then its just as good owning pets than actually being a vet. I did work exp in a vets and I got quite a bit of negative feedback from the vets. I dont think Id like working with large animals, but of course this is not the main area one can go down in being a vet)

Mathematical Sciences UCC: I like maths and applied maths in school but its a whole different story doing it in uni. But I have no interest in computers etc so Im guessing this isnt the ideal choice:rolleyes:

Accounting UCC/Financial maths and actuarial science UCD: As ye can tell I like working with numbers but tbh this isnt the most exciting career in the world. (If I were to do FMandAS Id do mathematical science in UCC as I would have more options and be able to do this in second year). Yeah the salary may be good but I want to have job satisfaction so not sure will I finf this here.

Science Degree: This wont be my second choice most probably, and perhaps will be towards the bottom of the list.

Medicine is a big decision to make and I want to make sure its the right one for me. Maybe I should push that article to the back of my mind. Sorry for the long post but if anyone could give me some advice and perspective Id be VERY greatful.:)
As ye can see I am a bit confuddled!

Psychedelia

1. medicine trin
2. medicine ucd
3. " rcsi
4. " nuig
5 pharmacy tcd
6 pharmacy rcsi
7 neurology
8. somethign
9.somethign
10. science tcd.


but. Xtrina.

i read that too. i was like woah.
but that person hates their job.
they're all cons and quite honestly they shouldnt be a doc.
people do like being doctors too. my GP said people have a habit of exaggerating their hardships.
its hard. BUT rewarding.
and theres research as well. which would be really interesting.
surgery, my sometime dream, may be a bitch but shur ya can play it by ear!

theowen

Psychedelia wrote: »

but. Xtrina.

i read that too. i was like woah.
but that person hates their job.
they're all cons and quite honestly they shouldnt be a doc.
people do like being doctors too. my GP said people have a habit of exaggerating their hardships.
its hard. BUT rewarding.
and theres research as well. which would be really interesting.
surgery, my sometime dream, may be a bitch but shur ya can play it by ear!

But, most of the docs who were posting agreed with him on many things

Psychedelia

But, most of the docs who were posting agreed with him on many things

ya there are many home truths there.
she was all CONS, CONS, CONS. you have to work with a broken arm! i do not believe this.
but then of course if that jobs is meant for you then you'll see the good sides of medicine too which makes it a good job. clearly its not her calling.

but i don't mean to turn this into a medi-discussion thread! sorry

Xtina!!

Psychedelia wrote: »

1. medicine trin
2. medicine ucd
3. " rcsi
4. " nuig
5 pharmacy tcd
6 pharmacy rcsi
7 neurology
8. somethign
9.somethign
10. science tcd.


but. Xtrina.

i read that too. i was like woah.
but that person hates their job.
they're all cons and quite honestly they shouldnt be a doc.
people do like being doctors too. my GP said people have a habit of exaggerating their hardships.
its hard. BUT rewarding.
and theres research as well. which would be really interesting.
surgery, my sometime dream, may be a bitch but shur ya can play it by ear!

It wasnt nice to read but I suppose those home truths had to be told. Med students need to know what they are getting themselves into, and that goes with any career. This person may hate their job, but it is understandable as it is a very hard life to lead. But I have spoken to doctors who love their jobs too so...
Its a very tough decision to make.:(

Gael23

1. Business with French UL
2. Commerce and French UCD
3. Business with French WIT
4. Commerce and French UCC
5.International Insurance & European studies UL
6.International Business WIT
7. European Studies UL
8. Finance & Investment WIT
9. Applied Languages UL
10. Law & Accounting UL

Ruski

Here's a shot of my Level 8's:
1. DN031 Theoretical Physics
2. DN032 Mathematical Science
3. DN008 Science
4. DT205 Mathematical Sciences
5. DT220 Industrial Mathematics
6. DT235 Physics with Medical Physics and Bioengineering
7. TR031 Mathematics
8. TR071 Science
9. DN012 Arts - Mathematics / Irish
10. MH206 Theoretical Physics and Mathematics

And a few 6/7's that I just picked randomly:
1. DT260 Industrial and Environmental Physics
2. DT212 Science - Common 1st Year
3. DT008 Electronics and Communications Engineering
4. BN001 Engineering (Electronics and Computer Engineering)
5. GC440 Computing (Dublin)
6. GC465 Journalism (Dublin)
7. TA216 Electronic Engineering
8. LC761 Technology (Video and Sound)
9. DL131 Computing in Multimedia Programming
10. DB576 Film and Media

It is a tough decision. I'm aiming for med too, and I got a bit freaked out there thinking I was going to ruin my life. But I figure, it's the only thing I want to do. If things don't improve here, one can always emigrate to the likes of Australia. You should definately think really hard about it though- would you be willing to emigrate, leaving friends & family behind in search of better working conditions?

And Psychedelia, yes the OP was quite downbeat, but I'd wager that's because the HSE sucked all enthusiam from their life. The conditions for NCHDs really are that bad in Ireland, the HSE is a complete joke in the way they manage our hospitals. If you don't believe them check out http://twoweeksonatrolley.blogspot.com, it's a blog written by Irish healthcare profs, many of the posts detail the scandalous workings conditions for NCHDS in Ireland.

jalock

Goin for these
1. Sports Rehab- Carlow IT
2. Athletic Therapy- DCU
3. Sports Science- UL
4. Sports Sceince- DCU
5. Health Science- UCD
6. Sports Science- Carlow IT
7. Irish and Journalism- DCU
8. Journalism and New Media- UL
9. Journalism- DCU
10. Journalism- Dublin IT

These were a bit of a "let's have a gawk at the CAO book and pull out a few". Minutes before filling out the form:

Level 6/7
1. Physiology and Health Science- Carlow IT
2. Health Science- Sligo IT
3. Sport and Exercise GAA- Carlow IT
4. Sport Development- Letterkenny IT
5. Sports Science- Tallaght IT
6. Sports Management- Blanchardstown IT
7. Journalism- DBS

wud love 2 hear if anyone else has anything similar. To see what i'm up against

almostnever

Level 8 Course Choices:
1. DN028 BCL Maîtrise
2. DN065 Law with Politics
3. DN060 Law with History
4. DN029 Law with French Law (BCL)
5. DN067 Law with Economics
6. DN066 Law with Philosophy
7. TR020 Law and Political Science
8. TR018 Law and French
9. TR023 English Studies
10. DN055 English

I stress that this is a tentative first draft.

unknown13

almostnever wrote: »

Level 8 Course Choices:
1. DN028 BCL Maîtrise
2. DN065 Law with Politics
3. DN060 Law with History
4. DN029 Law with French Law (BCL)
5. DN067 Law with Economics
6. DN066 Law with Philosophy
7. TR020 Law and Political Science
8. TR018 Law and French
9. TR023 English Studies
10. DN055 English

I stress that this is a tentative first draft.

What is the difference between DN028 and DN029

yourmother

Level 8:

Law and Irish - UCC
Law and Philosophy - UCD
Law and Politics - UCD
Law - UCC
Law - UCD
Law and Arts - NUIM

eVeNtInE

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Making It Bad

Don't quite get people's obsession with medicine. I'm sure some of these people only do it because of the prestige associated with it, and because of the fact it has got such high requirements they think , "it must be awesome because it's so difficult to get into".

Don't mean to offend any potential med students here, I'm just baffled by the lengths people go to, to get in. I just wonder if, hypothetically, medicine were to drop to 300 points tomorrow, would they still have it down as their number one?

That said obviously there are people who would do great things with a med degree and really love it too. I just find it difficult hard to believe that the sheer amount of applicants is equal to the people who are actually right for it.

Myself, I'm probably gonna end up doing the extremely low demand/requirement course that is computer science. Go figure.

*awaits criticism of his number one choice*

almostnever

unknown13 wrote: »

What is the difference between DN028 and DN029

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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What eVeNtInE said.
With the Maîtrise, I'd spend two years in Paris studying for what is considered to be a Masters level course in Law in France, and also get the Bachelor of Civil Law from UCD. That means I'd have the option of pursuing professional legal qualifications either here or in France.
Law with French Law is pretty much the straight Law degree with modules in French Law and society. In third year,you go to a French university and study there for a year, but you don't get any qualifications in France. Still a very worthwhile degree though,in my opinion.

pixeldesign

Hy guys!.I have a problem with the HEAR application form.The question is
Do you have a HSE medical card/GP visit Card or are you a dependent on a parent/guardian who holds a HSE Medical Card/GP Visit Card?

The HSE medical card/GP visit card must be in date as of 31 December 2009.
The only card i have is Vhi Healthcare Membership Card.
Date of issue : 02/10/2007
Is this ok ?

Gael23

pixeldesign wrote: »

Hy guys!.I have a problem with the HEAR application form.The question is
Do you have a HSE medical card/GP visit Card or are you a dependent on a parent/guardian who holds a HSE Medical Card/GP Visit Card?

The HSE medical card/GP visit card must be in date as of 31 December 2009.
The only card i have is Vhi Healthcare Membership Card.
Date of issue : 02/10/2007
Is this ok ?

No its not, a medical card is given by the government to people who satisfy a means test and allows them to get free medical services.
The vhi card which you have is a private medical insurance scheme which you must pay for.