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Bunny, have you ever actually read the firearms acts?bunny shooter wrote: »Seems the FPU have no "teeth" now either :rolleyes:
I got same answer on my moderator refusal
That was the only thing of any use to come from the FCP. Now it seems more than ever that was a complete waste of time
Nobody can tell an issuing officer what to do. The Commissioner can issue guidelines, the district court can overturn a decision, but the decision to grant or refuse is that officers to make and only his or hers.0 -
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Bunny, have you ever actually read the firearms acts?.
Yes, and your point is ?Nobody can tell an issuing officer what to do.
Agreed, but "he who pays the piper calls the tune" seems appropiateThe Commissioner can issue guidelines.
Guidelines :rolleyes:.................I am going to use my copy as loo paper same as some Supers and Chief Supers arethe district court can overturn a decision
and in the real world ........................ ?but the decision to grant or refuse is that officers to make and only his or hers.
So why have guidelines and legislation ?
Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining
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You obviously don't retain well sobunny shooter wrote: »Yes, and your point is ?
Jeez, did you have to chop what was a small post in the first place in to so many tiny pieces??? I'm not sure what I meant any more
Back to the firearms act with you so, with a quick pitstop at Dunne v Donohoe on the wayAgreed, but "he who pays the piper calls the tune" seems appropiate
Ooooohhhh! Hope you didn't use that heavy bond paper to print them out onGuidelines :rolleyes:.................I am going to use my copy as loo paper
We've only seen one case so far, January's going to be a busy month from what I hear, and guess who's got jury duty that month?and in the real world ........................ ?
So far, and I'm open to correction on this, I don't recall hearing of any laws being broken. There certainly isn't a "thou shalt apply and verily thou shalt get a licence forthwith" in the firearms act.*So why have guidelines and legislation ?
*Please read this in the spirit of bunny and I taking pot shots at each other in the absence of bunnies and targets. It in no way reflects on any person living, dead or in limbo on a shooting range or their aaplication and/or grant or refusal of said application.0 -
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You obviously don't retain well so
Memory (and hung) like an elephant
Jeez, did you have to chop what was a small post in the first place in to so many tiny pieces??? I'm not sure what I meant any more
It makes it easier for people, like you seemingly, to digest my commentsBack to the firearms act with you so, with a quick pitstop at Dunne v Donohoe on the way
Seems like more loo paper to me at this stageOoooohhhh! Hope you didn't use that heavy bond paper to print them out on
Recession here, feeding loo paper into printer as it's ****e I'm printing onto it anywayWe've only seen one case so far, January's going to be a busy month from what I hear, and guess who's got jury duty that month?
Pointless waste of timeSo far, and I'm open to correction on this, I don't recall hearing of any laws being broken. There certainly isn't a "thou shalt apply and verily thou shalt get a licence forthwith" in the firearms act.*
Same as no politican or priest has ever broken one :rolleyes: There are listed reasons when I can't have one so therefore why can't I if I ain't excluded by said reasons ?*Please read this in the spirit of bunny and I taking pot shots at each other in the absence of bunnies and targets. It in no way reflects on any person living, dead or in limbo on a shooting range or their aaplication and/or grant or refusal of said application.
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Elephants never forget because they never remember anything to forgetbunny shooter wrote: »Memory (and hung) like an elephant
Well seeing as it was you that did the cutting...It makes it easier for people, like you seemingly, to digest my comments
You're almost always given a reason for a refusal. You may not like it or agree with it, but its up to you to make something of it if you want to. If no reason is given then you get to have them trot into court and give one to the judge.Same as no politican or priest has ever broken one :rolleyes: There are listed reasons when I can't have one so therefore why can't I if I ain't excluded by said reasons ?
Are you still going to court?0 -
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Seems the "public safety" argument might be hard to overturn and a possible legal bill of €500ish is just a bit too much to swallow for the sake of a moderator
RRPC would be welcome at my place for dinner anytime and we could discuss how all the things we were promised the FCP would achieve have come to nothing :P0 -
I'll give you three good answers to the public safety issue and they're freebunny shooter wrote: »Seems the "public safety" argument might be hard to overturn and a possible legal bill of €500ish is just a bit too much to swallow for the sake of a moderator
1. High velocity rounds create a sonic crack which is non-directional, so people hearing you shoot won't know which direction it's coming from. They may as easily walk towards you as away from you.
2. You've already been approved for a licence for a rifle to shoot game/vermin. If you're not capable of ascertaining if it's safe to shoot, you shouldn't have been given the licence in the first place.
3. It's not up to walkers or other members of the public to take evasive actrion if you're shooting. It's up to you to make sure there's no-one anywhere near your line of fire before taking a shot. Whether you have a moderator or not will have no bearing on that procedure.
And I'd be happy to take up that offerRRPC would be welcome at my place for dinner anytime and we could discuss how all the things we were promised the FCP would achieve have come to nothing :P. Before I do, perhaps you'd outline those promises that were made and not kept and who exactly made those promises and when? 0 -
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