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22-12-2009 3:25am#1
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Wonder if there's a passive HD5750 out there or a mod for it if you did need it for some gaming... kicks out less heat than a HD4670 in any case...
And +1 for the CX400 unless you intend on extreme overclocking or insane stacks of drives and huge RAID arrays
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Define extreme..... And probably need to power 1 SSD and maybe 1 more HDD down the line. + peripherals. I suppose I'd be able to shave a few more watts off consumption if the 56xx or 55xx series came out soon.... (in the next week or two). Need to be able to play Tron on full settingsWonder if there's a passive HD5750 out there or a mod for it if you did need it for some gaming... kicks out less heat than a HD4670 in any case...
And +1 for the CX400 unless you intend on extreme overclocking or insane stacks of drives and huge RAID arrays
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Jock Strap wrote: »I suppose I'd be able to shave a few more watts off consumption if the 56xx or 55xx series came out soon.... (in the next week or two). Need to be able to play Tron on full settings
Why? :P The HD5750 only uses 40-45W during intense gaming, with a potential worst-case scenario of 60W if raped good and hard by the horrors of FurMark (i.e. it probably ain't ever gonna happen in real life situations
) I can't think of a reason to downgrade graphics to try and slide much under that bar unless you're never going to play a 3D game ever.
And SSDs use feck-all power. 3.5" HDDs use a little, but their issue is that they use a whole lot of juice for a few milliseconds when they spin up from off/idle - that surge (for each HDD) goes against the "100% load" rating of the PSU just like a CPU under torture and a GPU being thrashed by FurMark as they're not common situations in real life.
The only issue is if you stick half a dozen 3.5" HDDs alongside most of a system's 12V power requirement (except the CPU and any power the graphics cards use over 75W) all together on one 18A rail as some multirail PSUs designs lead you to do. In that case if all the HDDs tried to spin up simultaneously (as they would at every boot unless you're using an unthinkably pricey RAID controller card) they'd tug so much current they'd trip the anaemic 18A trip-switch in the PSU and it'll turn itself (and your PC) off
The CX400 has a single 30A tripswitch but everything that needs 12V power sits on it; your CPU will draw 7-8A, the graphics card 5A at worst and a few amps for everything else (mobo, fans, opticals; USB and RAM don't use 12V power). Half a dozen HDDs spinning up in unison can happily add 12-15A for just a split second... and then you have failsauce :eek:
Oh, btw, what do you mean by "peripherals" 0 -
Oh, the usual, mouse + keyboard.Why? :P The HD5750 only uses 40-45W during intense gaming, with a potential worst-case scenario of 60W if raped good and hard by the horrors of FurMark (i.e. it probably ain't ever gonna happen in real life situations) I can't think of a reason to downgrade graphics to try and slide much under that bar unless you're never going to play a 3D game ever.
And SSDs use feck-all power. 3.5" HDDs use a little, but their issue is that they use a whole lot of juice for a few milliseconds when they spin up from off/idle - that surge (for each HDD) goes against the "100% load" rating of the PSU just like a CPU under torture and a GPU being thrashed by FurMark as they're not common situations in real life.
The only issue is if you stick half a dozen 3.5" HDDs alongside most of a system's 12V power requirement (except the CPU and any power the graphics cards use over 75W) all together on one 18A rail as some multirail PSUs designs lead you to do. In that case if all the HDDs tried to spin up simultaneously (as they would at every boot unless you're using an unthinkably pricey RAID controller card) they'd tug so much current they'd trip the anaemic 18A trip-switch in the PSU and it'll turn itself (and your PC) off The CX400 has a single 30A tripswitch but everything that needs 12V power sits on it; your CPU will draw 7-8A, the graphics card 5A at worst and a few amps for everything else (mobo, fans, opticals; USB and RAM don't use 12V power). Half a dozen HDDs spinning up in unison can happily add 12-15A for just a split second... and then you have failsauce :eek:
Oh, btw, what do you mean by "peripherals" and I don't want to plug in an external harddrive and have the PSU fail! also I'll have the tv and wireless card.
But seriously, the antec already has 2 fans and / intened on overclocking down the line and might add more fans (and maybe a controller). Is the antec 300 suitable for overclocking?
I was thinking an OCZ ModXtream Pro 500w would be more than reassuring.... Though I know there are several on here who would advise against OCZ Power supplies.0 -
So here are the parts I am going to order this weeked, hopefully!
- CPU: Intel i5-750 €164.03
- Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 €111.03
- RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 1600Mhz CL9 €78.60
- Case: Antec 300 €46.17
- PSU: Corsair CX 400w €41.68
- GFX: Club 3D 4670 1GB €64.19
- or Sapphire 4670 512MB €62.50
- HDD: Samsung F3 500GB €43.79
- ODD: Samsung SH-223L €28.81
- WiFi: TP-Link N PCI card €21.62
- Monitor: Dell ST2410 183.20
Anything else i need ? What am i going to be missing form the OEM DVD-RW? And the 4670 from komplett says "lite-retail" anybody know the difference between it and full retail?
Any other thoughts?
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Jock Strap wrote: »So here are the parts I am going to order this weeked, hopefully!
- CPU: Intel i5-750 €164.03
- Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 €111.03
- RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 1600Mhz CL9 €78.60
- Case: Antec 300 €46.17
- PSU: Corsair CX 400w €41.68
- GFX: Club 3D 4670 1GB €64.19
- or Sapphire 4670 512MB €62.50
- HDD: Samsung F3 500GB €43.79
- ODD: Samsung SH-223L €28.81
- WiFi: TP-Link N PCI card €21.62
- Monitor: Dell ST2410 183.20
Anything else i need ? What am i going to be missing form the OEM DVD-RW? And the 4670 from komplett says "lite-retail" anybody know the difference between it and full retail?
Any other thoughts?
Looks good.
An OEM DVD is essentially, the dvd drive. That's it, no Cables, Software, nada. Don't worry, the cables you need will come with the Mobo and PSU ;D
As for "Lite retail", I have no idea. Also, check out eBuyer before you buy and compare the price. It might actually work out cheaper (especially if you order tomorrow before the VAT goes back up) 0 -
What about drivers?? And screws?Leman_Russ wrote: »Looks good.
An OEM DVD is essentially, the dvd drive. That's it, no Cables, Software, nada. Don't worry, the cables you need will come with the Mobo and PSU ;D
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Jock Strap wrote: »What about drivers?? And screws?
should get a bag of screws with the motherboard and even some with a new case.
Drivers will be on a disk with the mobo.0 -
Odds are there won't be a need for DVD drivers as they're old generictech; thus the drivers will be integrated into Windows by now like USB and wifi
And I'm annoyed at the lack of cheap passive HD4770s, especially since Powercolor said they were releasing such a thing :mad: At least some fairly cheap (sub-€130) passive HD5750s will be hitting HWVS... someyear... :rolleyes:0 -
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Odds are there won't be a need for DVD drivers as they're old generictech; thus the drivers will be integrated into Windows by now like USB and wifi
And I'm annoyed at the lack of cheap passive HD4770s, especially since Powercolor said they were releasing such a thing :mad: At least some fairly cheap (sub-€130) passive HD5750s will be hitting HWVS... someyear... :rolleyes:
I'd love a passive 5750 but i gotta stick to a budget!
I think I'll go with the Sapphire 4670 and pick it up from blanch. Cant find reviews for the Club 3D one. The only difference between the two is that the sapphire is 512MB and the Club 3D is 1GB (both GDDR3). However,m if you look at my motherboard, you'll see that the sapphire's cooler means he top PCIe-x1 slot And the Club 3D cooler will mean I'll be missing the second PCIe-x1 slot! :rolleyes: Any thoughts?0 -
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Just ordered my keyboard and monitor from Dell
Logitech Pro 2800 - €48.29
Dell ST2410 - €182.45
Rage at the monitor supplied with a VGA cable instead of DVI but the shipping is free 0 -
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Jock Strap wrote: »Good to know
Yep there is nothing better then a lot of useless info you can throw in at any conversation in the pub! LOL0 -
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