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Cold Spell Discussion (22/12/09) (Freeze continues across country)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Super 18Z GFS run for the east and southeast, almost 24 hours of falling snow, could be about an inch in most places in the SE if that came off.

    An inch? if that 18z was to occur.. there would be well over 6 inches in lucky spots inland recieving precip.

    rc28...... the howth thing was just my paranoia! BUT it doesnt look at the moment like getting further than south Louth.

    However areas along the northern and western extent of the precip are the most desired for sticking snow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭jenzz


    Could be rain/sleet in Waterford, some of wexford. (dewpoints rising to 1-2c during precip) on this run.

    Looks game for much of Dublin, Carlow, and the place that looks to be hit the worst, Wicklow.

    Well ament I damn glad I kept my ticket for the rollercoaster ...................


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭jenzz


    An inch? if that 18z was to occur.. there would be well over 6 inches in lucky spots inland recieving precip.

    rc28...... the howth thing was just my paranoia! BUT it doesnt look at the moment like getting further than south Louth.

    However areas along the northern and western extent of the precip are the most desired for sticking snow.

    Right WC - Any idea what time this is due to kick off - One kiddie is in Wexford tonight so need to go get her home tomo me thinks.........................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    An inch? if that 18z was to occur.. there would be well over 6 inches in lucky spots inland recieving precip.

    Around an inch in most places (dont want to jinx it by ramping :D ) but I agree more than that in spots, high ground for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭jenzz


    Pangea wrote: »
    Fairplay, glad you guys on the south east in low levels are gona get some snow for a change ,it rarely snows down there i believe?

    I used to live outside Gorey - never got much snow as right beside the sea but my god were the roads a disaster - severe frosts all winter & in my 6 years living there could prob have counted on 1 hand the number of Gritters I saw on the N11 up. On a bad morning 3-4 hours to get to Bray which is max 1 hour !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Looks good for Kilkenny, Laois, Carlow, Wicklow, Kildare and much of Dublin ( although i would prefer to be in south Dublin than north Dublin).

    Waterford and Wexford... abit iffy, sleety but potential for big falls of snow inland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    I still think I'm the only one wishing the snow would f*** off. I mean it's nice to look at, but as soon as you have to walk or drive somewhere, it becomes a huge pain in the ass and a massive headache.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    and the place that looks to be hit the worst, Wicklow.
    :eek::eek::D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    its the heavy fog thats bugging me, never seen it as dense as i did today


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,601 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Is that precip in Kerry at the moment falling as snow? Anyone down that way?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Looks good for Kilkenny, Laois, Carlow, Wicklow, Kildare and much of Dublin ( although i would prefer to be in south Dublin than north Dublin).

    Waterford and Wexford... abit iffy, sleety but potential for big falls of snow inland.

    What do you make of the netweather snow risk charts Weathercheck? They are not very confident for snow falling EXCEPT for areas well inland.... Carlow/Kilkenny etc..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    I still think I'm the only one wishing the snow would f*** off. I mean it's nice to look at, but as soon as you have to walk or drive somewhere, it becomes a huge pain in the ass and a massive headache.
    If the kids are happy, I'm happy :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Hard to know till the event starts to unfold but if this model run came off youd more than likely see some snow showers. Its going to be nowcasting hq here tomorrow...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    well if this run came off then carlow, wicklow will get plastered with persistant snow.
    Its really close for me in east tipperary, the run shows precipitation over me for several hours but the problem is if it moves a little more east then i miss out, if it moves slightly west, then bingo.

    For those in the east, ENJOY!:D


  • Subscribers Posts: 8,322 ✭✭✭Scubadevils


    I'd kinda prefer too if it held off till late Christmas eve at this stage, much and all as I love it, it would disrupt already suffering business around retail which my income depends on! Been a tough enough year as is without the last few days of potential spend being taken away by sneachta!




    Anyway, I'll get me coat...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Rougies wrote: »
    What do you make of the netweather snow risk charts Weathercheck? They are not very confident snow falling for areas well inland.... Carlow/Kilkenny etc..

    They are not great for showing exact boundries of where precip may go, better to use them more like a broad, general kind of kind look at what may happen.

    If the 18Z came off Carlow/Kilkenny would see snow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    MUSEIST wrote: »

    For those in the east, ENJOY!:D

    I'm in Dublin and taking off tomorrow morning so I'm hoping to miss it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Eveylyn Cusack is a born Ramper!! but if she's saying outbreaks of snow in the East and southeast tomorrow then you can be pretty sure theres support for that in the ecm ensemble to which we don't get access.


  • Subscribers Posts: 8,322 ✭✭✭Scubadevils


    Looks good for Kilkenny, Laois, Carlow, Wicklow, Kildare and much of Dublin ( although i would prefer to be in south Dublin than north Dublin).

    Waterford and Wexford... abit iffy, sleety but potential for big falls of snow inland.

    I'm not liking this North cut off... I mean ffs, as I said yesterday, when it comes from the North or North West it doesn't make it over this far, now from the feckin South and it just misses us too!


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Rougies wrote: »
    What do you make of the netweather snow risk charts Weathercheck? They are not very confident snow falling for areas well inland.... Carlow/Kilkenny etc..

    Did someone not mention earlier in this thread that there to be taken with a pinch of Salt ?

    I am hoping that Newbridge gets a good pasting, I would love to get down the curragh and get some great photos, Video clips


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Rougies


    They are not great for showing exact boundries of where precip may go, better to use them more like a broad, general kind of kind look at what may happen.

    If the 18Z came off Carlow/Kilkenny would see snow.

    Sorry, I meant except for areas well inland....oops :o (post edited)
    But, point taken, thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    There is still snow on the hills of North Kilkenny, it has been never above freezing much of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    ill it snow in tipperary, will it......:confused:



    ....I'll get my coat:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Rougies


    MUSEIST wrote: »
    ill it snow in tipperary, will it......:confused:



    ....I'll get my coat:D

    Lol, don't encourage them ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭doccy


    God no, I'd thought I'd escaped this thread and then like that film The perfect Storm all the ramping drags me back in!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    MUSEIST wrote: »
    ill it snow in tipperary, will it......:confused:



    ....I'll get my coat:D

    Sorry but Kilkenny will :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭pp_me129


    -2.5 And Falling :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Miss wexford town again! ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    So who would have bet 2 days ago of this being a chart at 7 days?

    Bloomin hell!

    Rtavn1501.png


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Min wrote: »
    There is still snow on the hills of North Kilkenny, it has been never above freezing much of the time.
    Oh theres snow just inland from here too since last weeks easterlies that hasn't budged.
    The fields are completely white.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    I have twenty quid at 4/1 on a white christmas. Different people tell me different things. One snowflake at Dublin Airport and then others say 1mm lying.

    Question 1. Will dublin get it?

    Question 2. Will it be enough?


    A hundred quid is relying on this LOL

    Come on, lets have yer...:D:D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 847 ✭✭✭mickger


    I'm getting excited about the chances of getting some snow in Waterford City tomorrow. As other posters on here have mentioned a few times we never get snow here. Thinking back to the last nice amount we got i think it was in 1995 or later than that. The City is 10km from the coast so hopefully the DP will stay low enough for us to get it. Its freezing mad here now with a temp of -3.2c.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So who would have bet 2 days ago of this being a chart at 7 days?

    Bloomin hell!

    Rtavn1501.png
    Good lord :D
    It's FI though and the pub run :D

    speaking of which...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    So who would have bet 2 days ago of this being a chart at 7 days?

    Bloomin hell!

    Rtavn1501.png

    ahhhh, a thing of beauty it is indeed...:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Rougies


    What happened to needing -5C or lower 850 temps for snow? They're not in place for tomorrow event. Also the dewpoints are looking very marginal for much of the east.

    Am I missing something here :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Drakmord


    -5 in Mitchelstown, Co. Cork now.
    Very clear sky. Hoping for snow tomorrow.
    Fingers crossed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    There is utter wishful and nonsensical thinking going on in this thread.

    Significant snow on Christmas? ONLY if you live on the Wicklow/Mourne mountains, and the high hills in Carlow/Kilkenny.

    The synoptics seem good/likely for a hour's snow, maybe up to 3 hours at low areas in parts of Leinster. But where is this day's worth of snowfall coming from?!? There is no cold pool of air built up over this part of the world, just some cold surface air. Definitely will get in the way of the edge of the front and will make it snow but where are the numbers to support this??

    My looking at GFS 18z tells me that there's not even going to be less than +2 Celcius dewpoints over any segment of the heavier rain forecast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Rougies wrote: »
    What happened to needing -5C or lower 850 temps for snow? They're not in place for tomorrow event. Also the dewpoints are looking very marginal for much of the east.

    Am I missing something here :confused:

    You need 850hPa temperatures at -0.1c or lower for snowfall. In Ireland we prefer lower because it cancels out the warming effect of the seas.

    Our current airmass is so cold that it is 0c or lower the whole way up, way up above the clouds too. Anything that falls will be snow. The very costal margins might be wet snow because of the effect of sea-salt in the air.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭mad DIY


    Absolutely bizarre conditions in south Meath. I have never never seen a frost like there was at 20:30 this evening. Everything crystal white. Even the road was white, with recessed tyre tracks in it. It appeared to a covering of ice crystals that seemed to be accumulating to a perceptable depth, like a covering of snow. Like moisture in the air is freezing into crystals on contact with surface. No clouds, no fog, clear sky, not a flake has fallen in a few days, but it looked as amazing as a covering of snow. Car was only parked 3 hours, and it too was frozen solid.

    It wasn't so blo0dy amazing though trying to drive back up the N3 through the road works after the first few oncoming trucks had deposits clouds of muck on the windscreen :mad: No way of clearing it off when its that cold, could see feck all.

    10 miles down the road towards Blanchardstown no sign of frost or ice :confused:
    Surprised there seems to be no frost in north west Dublin, seemed like a fairly mild evening when I stopped to sort out the windscreen. Some frost on the southside though.

    Guards seem to have run out of recovery vehicles. There was a rolled car abandoned in a lane of the N3 dual carraigeway just inbound of the M50 causing a traffic snarl up, usually the Guards recover them immediatley rather just leaving them there.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There is utter wishful and nonsensical thinking going on in this thread.

    Significant snow on Christmas? ONLY if you live on the Wicklow/Mourne mountains, and the high hills in Carlow/Kilkenny.

    The synoptics seem good/likely for a hour's snow, maybe up to 3 hours at low areas in parts of Leinster. But where is this day's worth of snowfall coming from?!? There is no cold pool of air built up over this part of the world, just some cold surface air. Definitely will get in the way of the edge of the front and will make it snow but where are the numbers to support this??

    My looking at GFS 18z tells me that there's not even going to be less than +2 Celcius dewpoints over any segment of the heavier rain forecast.
    Are you disagree'ing with the Great Eveylyn Cusack at 930 on RTE :pac:

    Her words were outbreaks of snow in the East followed by snow showers.
    Those were her words not mine,now WC's :)

    I'll believe it when I see it too but for a forecast like that you need back up from the mighty ECM ensembles and we don't have access to them.
    ME does :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Just back from arklow, car says 0c.. Is wicklow going to get some snow tomorrow.?


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    Danno wrote: »
    You need 850hPa temperatures at -0.1c or lower for snowfall. In Ireland we prefer lower because it cancels out the warming effect of the seas.

    Our current airmass is so cold that it is 0c or lower the whole way up, way up above the clouds too. Anything that falls will be snow. The very costal margins might be wet snow because of the effect of sea-salt in the air.
    Correct :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    mad DIY wrote: »
    Absolutely bizarre conditions in south Meath. I have never never seen a frost like there was at 20:30 this evening. Everything crystal white. Even the road was white, with recessed tyre tracks in it. It appeared to a covering of ice crystals that seemed to be accumulating to a perceptable depth, like a covering of snow. Like moisture in the air is freezing into crystals on contact with surface. No clouds, no fog, clear sky, not a flake has fallen in a few days, but it looked as amazing as a covering of snow. Car was only parked 3 hours, and it too was frozen solid.

    It wasn't so blo0dy amazing though trying to drive back up the N3 through the road works after the first few oncoming trucks had deposits clouds of muck on the windscreen :mad: No way of clearing it off when its that cold, could see feck all.

    10 miles down the road towards Blanchardstown no sign of frost or ice :confused:
    Surprised there seems to be no frost in north west Dublin, seemed like a fairly mild evening when I stopped to sort out the windscreen. Some frost on the southside though.

    Guards seem to have run out of recovery vehicles. There was a rolled car abandoned in a lane of the N3 dual carraigeway just inbound of the M50 causing a traffic snarl up, usually the Guards recover them immediatley rather just leaving them there.


    Yep, i have the ssame thing, never seen any thing like it before.
    Its just frost but everything is covered in white with tiny ice crystalls in the fog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    mad DIY wrote: »
    Absolutely bizarre conditions in south Meath. I have never never seen a frost like there was at 20:30 this evening. Everything crystal white. Even the road was white, with recessed tyre tracks in it. It appeared to a covering of ice crystals that seemed to be accumulating to a perceptable depth, like a covering of snow. Like moisture in the air is freezing into crystals on contact with surface. No clouds, no fog, clear sky, not a flake has fallen in a few days, but it looked as amazing as a covering of snow. Car was only parked 3 hours, and it too was frozen solid.

    It wasn't so blo0dy amazing though trying to drive back up the N3 through the road works after the first few oncoming trucks had deposits clouds of muck on the windscreen :mad: No way of clearing it off when its that cold, could see feck all.

    10 miles down the road towards Blanchardstown no sign of frost or ice :confused:
    Surprised there seems to be no frost in north west Dublin, seemed like a fairly mild evening when I stopped to sort out the windscreen. Some frost on the southside though.

    Guards seem to have run out of recovery vehicles. There was a rolled car abandoned in a lane of the N3 dual carraigeway just inbound of the M50 causing a traffic snarl up, usually the Guards recover them immediatley rather just leaving them there.

    Was sub-zero and frosty a little bit further east around Glasnevin with white footpaths at that time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭rc28


    mad DIY wrote: »
    Absolutely bizarre conditions in south Meath. I have never never seen a frost like there was at 20:30 this evening. Everything crystal white. Even the road was white, with recessed tyre tracks in it. It appeared to a covering of ice crystals that seemed to be accumulating to a perceptable depth, like a covering of snow. Like moisture in the air is freezing into crystals on contact with surface. No clouds, no fog, clear sky, not a flake has fallen in a few days, but it looked as amazing as a covering of snow. Car was only parked 3 hours, and it too was frozen solid.

    It wasn't so blo0dy amazing though trying to drive back up the N3 through the road works after the first few oncoming trucks had deposits clouds of muck on the windscreen :mad: No way of clearing it off when its that cold, could see feck all.

    10 miles down the road towards Blanchardstown no sign of frost or ice :confused:
    Surprised there seems to be no frost in north west Dublin, seemed like a fairly mild evening when I stopped to sort out the windscreen. Some frost on the southside though.

    Guards seem to have run out of recovery vehicles. There was a rolled car abandoned in a lane of the N3 dual carraigeway just inbound of the M50 causing a traffic snarl up, usually the Guards recover them immediatley rather just leaving them there.

    Yes fantastic frost here this evening - there was no precipitation today so I don't know where all the fresh moisture came from for there to be so much ice all of a sudden.

    I don't want people to be dissappointed tomorrow when/if it sleets rather than snows so it's best not to expect anything. The precip charts show this mainly as a sleet event but I don't know if they can be trusted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    Rougies wrote: »
    What happened to needing -5C or lower 850 temps for snow? They're not in place for tomorrow event. Also the dewpoints are looking very marginal for much of the east.

    Am I missing something here :confused:

    I was thinking the same thing myself. I can't see it happening but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Danno wrote: »
    You need 850hPa temperatures at -0.1c or lower for snowfall. In Ireland we prefer lower because it cancels out the warming effect of the seas.

    Our current airmass is so cold that it is 0c or lower the whole way up, way up above the clouds too. Anything that falls will be snow. The very costal margins might be wet snow because of the effect of sea-salt in the air.

    Ok, thanks Danno. Makes sense.

    Still not liking the DPs though.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    When the lass from Clonaslee says it will snow, it will snow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Tactical


    Drive to and from work was slow on the minor roads. They were and still are like an ice rink. Never seen ice like it on the roads. No reasonable thaw today either.

    Main roads were absolutely fine with no problems.

    Not as cold as last night but with no thaw today they will be dodgy again in the morning in West Limerick.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭mad DIY


    rc28 wrote: »
    Yes fantastic frost here this evening - there was no precipitation today so I don't know where all the fresh moisture came from for there to be so much ice all of a sudden.

    I don't want people to be dissappointed tomorrow when/if it sleets rather than snows so it's best not to expect anything. The precip charts show this mainly as a sleet event but I don't know if they can be trusted.

    Whether it snows or not, I have at last seen something out this cold spell that I would class as remarkable :)


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