tottenham to sell robbie keane to celtic?

pwd

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22122009/58/premier-league-paper-round-robbie-keane-artur-boruc-swap-deal.html

-because he organised a party behind the manager's back it seems.

I think he should stay in the premier league myself.

cournioni

There is no way Celtic can afford to pay his wages.

Boggles

No chance, the Russian is going if he has walk out there in Jan.

Selling Keane aswell would leave them light with Crouch and Defoe upfront.

Unless they have a replacement for Keane lined up, I can't see it to be honest.

Eirebear

This story crops up every single transfer window.

To be honest, Boruc for Keane would be a stupid move on Celtics part given their defensive record at the moment.

Nuttzz

this has been about long before the party, but the party is a handy excuse.

Keane would have the potential to be another Larsson up there, considering samaras can seem to get a goal every second game

Bobalicious93

May as well go to the LOI at that rate.

JPA

Boruc is no better than gomes and Celtic simply can't afford a player like that.
Unless he slashes his wages in 3 because he "loves" Celtic or sumthin.
Even then you'd think there's no way they could pay the transfer fee.

Eirebear

Nuttzz wrote: »

this has been about long before the party, but the party is a handy excuse.

Keane would have the potential to be another Larsson up there, considering samaras can seem to get a goal every second game

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

May as well go to the LOI at that rate.

Oooohh cant you just smell the arrogance from here!

To be completely honest about it, whilst he is a good player, Keane is wildly overrated by the irish in general.

Hes never really set the heather alight when given the opportunity to step up to a club similar in stature to where you guys hold him.

And now Spurs want rid? Says it all really...

pwd

He and Berbatov were a highly effective partnership I think

Fuhrer

Eirebear wrote: »

Oooohh cant you just smell the arrogance from here!

To be completely honest about it, whilst he is a good player, Keane is wildly overrated by the irish in general.

Hes never really set the heather alight when given the opportunity to step up to a club similar in stature to where you guys hold him.

And now Spurs want rid? Says it all really...

The SPL is rubbish, get over it.

Eirebear

Fuhrer wrote: »

The SPL is rubbish, get over it.

:eek:

I hadnt realised! Whatever am i going to do?!:rolleyes:

I've come to a decision, im going to buy a Man Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea top tomorrow, whichever is nicest really and become a full blooded fan.

Tomthepost

Eirebear wrote: »

:eek:

I hadnt realised! Whatever am i going to do?!:rolleyes:

I've come to a decision, im going to buy a Man Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea top tomorrow, whichever is nicest really and become a full blooded fan.

Would you not consider a Villa jersey? You can get Dunne No 5 on the back and be a proud Irish man or go for the retro look and get the name McGrath on it.;)

Coillte_Bhoy

Eirebear wrote: »

:eek:

I hadnt realised! Whatever am i going to do?!:rolleyes:

I've come to a decision, im going to buy a Man Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea top tomorrow, whichever is nicest really and become a full blooded fan.

Well said that man.

Bandit12

Would be a bad move for himself and ireland. The standard up in Scotland in pretty dire tbh. I'd put Celtic for instance on a par with an average championship side. It was alway's on the cards as Keanes attitude has alway's been poor hence him moving club every year or so.

leninbenjamin

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

There is no way Celtic can afford to pay his wages.

Would Tottenham do the sometimes done thing where they will pay a certain percentage on top of his Celtic wage just to be rid of him? They can be fairly happy to throw cash at a problem...

racso1975

I'd agree with him tryin to stay in the premiership just on the basis that if he is play premiership football it would be better for the irish team until we find a replacement stricker

noodler

His goal return this season has been okay. His Irish goal return in the last campaign was the best its ever been.

He won't leave Spurs, but even if he did he would go somewhere in the EPL.

magma69

A move up North would be a massive step down for Keane. Really hope he doesn't go. If he does it will almost be like he is conceding that he is past his best. I'm sure there are plenty of EPL teams who would be only too glad to snap him up. I think he would be great for Villa to replace those donkeys Carew and Heskey.

racso1975

I thought everton might have gone for them given their lack of stikers but with donavan coming in i cant see that happening

therokerroar

If we (Sunderland) can get him for anything from £8m or less I can see him coming to us.

Harry needs to sell to buy in January and there is absolutely no chance that they will recoup what they paid Liverpool for him to re-sign.

Harry wants rid and needs to sell before he can buy - The buying club holds all the aces regarding this transfer.

midget lord

racso1975 wrote: »

I thought everton might have gone for them given their lack of stikers but with donavan coming in i cant see that happening

Everton have even less money than Liverpool, and its hard to have less than zero.

Slash/ED

Would have to be bad news for Ireland, no way he'll remain as sharp when playing in the SPL, would be a huge step down for him and pretty much the winding down of his career if he does this

Instant Karma

Come off it now lads.

Keane to Celtic could definitely happen and saying otherwise is a bit disingenuous in fairness. Now I'm not saying it will happen but consider this, he would bang in goals up there for fun, he would most likely get the chance to play champ league football & he would get regular games as long as he stays fit.

How many more seasons does he have left? he's becoming increasingly more frozen out at spurs and I'm sure he wants champions league football at some stage before he retires.

BERBA

Reading in to below article and knowing the state of Liverpools finances , i wouldnt be at all surprised if Daniel Levy left Keano go and in the process saved us a few quid and starved the pool of much needed cash owed to em. Wouldnt be surprised to see Keano going out and Bellamy coming in coz afterall last season it was spammers who wouldnt sell bellamy to spurs and that was his preferred choice. Now with sparky gone i can see him handing in a transfer request...watch this space.




Tuesday, 22 December 2009
Would Robbie Keane's sale to Celtic cost Liverpool?
Posted by Antony Melvin at 05:35 PM in Celtic, Liverpool, Premier League, Tottenham Hotspur, Transfer rumours, Transfer speculation | Permalink


Renewed speculation that Robbie Keane will up sticks and leave for Celtic has arisen after that notorious squad outing to Dublin on a 'golfing weekend' (has anyone looked out of the window at the weather recently, does that look like golfing weather, does someone think that Dublin has some kind of tropical micro-climate?) rather unsurprisingly ended up in pubs and clubs. Not that anyone in Dublin will have heard of or seen any of the Spurs players before - except for ones with access to that new-fangled 'television' thing.

I'm not sure how the players thought that they would go un-noticed in a sports mad city like Dublin - or that if they were caught that Spurs would simply laugh it off. Tottenham are getting closer to the elite under Harry Redknapp and if he feels that getting drunk and pulling a slag is counter-productive then perhaps they should listen to him. If the players had come back and thumped Wolves that might have helped - but losing at home to a relegation candidate was always going to mean trouble for the tour organizer.

That Robbie Keane was the tour organizer was never likely to endear him to Redknapp - especially as the Irishman is no longer an automatic first choice at White Hart Lane and is not the type of person to avoid 'discussing' the situation with the manager. So as the rumours that Robbie Keane would leave for Celtic (another club he supported as a boy? or a bhoy?) have persisted for a couple of months now there may be something in them - especially as it might be financially beneficial for Spurs to move him on now.

The financial details of Robbie Keane's transfers to and from Tottenham and Liverpool are not public knowledge, but this is The Guardian's take on how much Keane cost Spurs:

"Keane, who departed White Hart Lane [for Liverpool] for an initial £19m with a further £1.3m of potential add-ons, is understood to have cost Tottenham an initial £12m. That fee will rise quickly to nearer £16m with further ambitious add-ons, linked to silverware he claims at Spurs, to see up to £19m change hands again."

So if Keane is close to some threshold or other (Keane has played 29 league games for Spurs since his return) it may be worth up to £7m to let Keane on top of any transfer fee. If Celtic were prepared to spend, say, £6m on Keane or go for a player exchange (Artur Boric has been mentioned) then Tottenham may benefit substantially more than whatever the headline amount suggests by reducing future liabilities.

A £6m quick sale would mean that Spurs had generated £25m in selling Keane balanced against giving Liverpool about £12m (there could have been an add-on triggered at 10 or 25 games) as well as the £7m paid to Leeds in 2002. Meaning that Spurs would have more than broken even on a player that is 30 in the summer and has scored over 100 club goals.

Celtic would get a goalscorer who would thrive in the more defensively open SPL and as the most popular Irish player around he could well pay for himself in merchandising alone.

Liverpool would lose out on the potential receipt of up to £7m if Spurs make a quick sale; and as a rival for fourth place this may be a minor - if machiavellian - motivation.

greendom

That would be a punishment way in excess of the crime.

Esse85

magma69 wrote: »

A move up North would be a massive step down for Keane. Really hope he doesn't go. If he does it will almost be like he is conceding that he is past his best. I'm sure there are plenty of EPL teams who would be only too glad to snap him up. I think he would be great for Villa to replace those donkeys Carew and Heskey.

Carew is no donkey, fine player.

dsmythy

Instant Karma wrote: »

Come off it now lads.

Keane to Celtic could definitely happen and saying otherwise is a bit disingenuous in fairness. Now I'm not saying it will happen but consider this, he would bang in goals up there for fun, he would most likely get the chance to play champ league football & he would get regular games as long as he stays fit.

How many more seasons does he have left? he's becoming increasingly more frozen out at spurs and I'm sure he wants champions league football at some stage before he retires.

If we see Celtic in the Champions League any time soon... He could try France or Germany for a team getting into the Champions League. The league he's in would be of a higher standard then as well.

mink_man

robbie wouldnt go to celtic imo, he wouldnt go to scotland id say, not high enough standard..

mormank

Eirebear wrote: »

Oooohh cant you just smell the arrogance from here!

To be completely honest about it, whilst he is a good player, Keane is wildly overrated by the irish in general.

Hes never really set the heather alight when given the opportunity to step up to a club similar in stature to where you guys hold him.

And now Spurs want rid? Says it all really...

ok im pretty sure nobody scored more prem goals than him in the 2007 calender year! thats not bad now is it. he is/was a very good player and would probably rip the scottish defences to pieces..if he plays there with the correct attitude!

mormank

racso1975 wrote: »

I thought everton might have gone for them given their lack of stikers but with donavan coming in i cant see that happening

lack of strikers?? yakubu scored more prem goals for years and years than anyone bar henry! and now they have saha and Jo also. the last thing they need is more strikers, especially now that they have landon. mind you, we will have to wait and see how he does

population

Keane is not stupid. He would be well aware the SPL is tat. Also he has an overinflated sense of his own abilities as a player. Kicking about in a bad league is not something he will consider imo

everdead.ie

I think keane is the only prem player to reach double figures goal wise for the last 8 years in a row He won't go anywhere they couldn't afford his wages

Dublin_Gunner

Maybe they could just give him back to Liverpool for free

But it would be a silly move to go up to Celtic. The SPL is a very poor quality division.


I'd rather see him go to someone like Fulham or maybe even Newcastle tbh (they'll be getting promoted again this year).

He'd probably do alright at Villa - another ex Liverpool player on their books! lol

Maybe they could swap him with Bellamy at City.

ziggy

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OhNoYouDidn't

Have no doubt about it, this move is a runner. Boruc plus a couple of million with Dermot Desmond to pay half his wages like he did with Roy Keane.

Celtic are at a low ebb and their board are under huge pressure to buy and stabalise back into the CL group stages every year. Remember when Celtic under O'Neill attracted the likes of Sutton, Hartson, Lennon, Hedman etc - all big players established in the EPL on big wages. The idea that Keane would be better advised to scratch it out in the relegation zone than win medals and play CL football for his boyhood club is laughable.

There is some seriously patronising rubbish on this thread.

Slash/ED

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

The idea that Keane would be better advised to scratch it out in the relegation zone than win medals and play CL football for his boyhood club is laughable.

It really isn't, win medals? He could play for Rovers and win a whole heap of them and move back in with his family. Also isn't his boyhood club Liverpool? The idea that Keane would be better advised to play in a league barely above LOI in standard and maybe have the odd shot at a CL qualifier/making up the numbers in the group stages is laughable. If he is to leave Spurs, he should at least try stay in England and failing that maybe go abroad to some place like Spain/Italy, he showed when he went to Inter he wasn't adverse to the idea of playing outside the British Isles.

Brewster

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Have no doubt about it, this move is a runner. Boruc plus a couple of million with Dermot Desmond to pay half his wages like he did with Roy Keane.

Celtic are at a low ebb and their board are under huge pressure to buy and stabalise back into the CL group stages every year. Remember when Celtic under O'Neill attracted the likes of Sutton, Hartson, Lennon, Hedman etc - all big players established in the EPL on big wages. The idea that Keane would be better advised to scratch it out in the relegation zone than win medals and play CL football for his boyhood club is laughable.

There is some seriously patronising rubbish on this thread.

I agree there is some rubbish written on this thread. Im sure Glasgow Rangers will have a say whether Keane would get to play Champions League football and win medals, after all there is probably only going to be one Scottish team in CL from now on due to co-efficient slide this season. Celtic need to strength their team, however, their priority is their defence which is plain for everyone to see. I wouldn't think it would be prudent for Mowbray to blow his entire budget on Keane with the defence is such disarray. Celtic do not need Keane

OhNoYouDidn't

Slash/ED wrote: »

It really isn't, win medals? He could play for Rovers and win a whole heap of them and move back in with his family. Also isn't his boyhood club Liverpool? The idea that Keane would be better advised to play in a league barely above LOI in standard and maybe have the odd shot at a CL qualifier/making up the numbers in the group stages is laughable. If he is to leave Spurs, he should at least try stay in England and failing that maybe go abroad to some place like Spain/Italy, he showed when he went to Inter he wasn't adverse to the idea of playing outside the British Isles.

You are missing the point. Celtic would be a lucrative, medal winning, move with European football every year for a player with no medals and minimal European exposure. He is not good enough to get a move to a Spanish, Italian or English side that will offer him that. He flopped at Inter and Liverpool, the only two 'big' clubs he has played for.

The Anglocentric arrogance that he should continue scrapping it out at the bottom of a league whose bubble will burst any day now is laughable.

OhNoYouDidn't

Brewster wrote: »

I agree there is some rubbish written on this thread. Im sure Glasgow Rangers will have a say whether Keane would get to play Champions League football and win medals, after all there is probably only going to be one Scottish team in CL from now on due to co-efficient slide this season. Celtic need to strength their team, however, their priority is their defence which is plain for everyone to see. I wouldn't think it would be prudent for Mowbray to blow his entire budget on Keane with the defence is such disarray. Celtic do not need Keane

I agree, but Celtic need a Keane sized signing.

Slash/ED

Yes but medal winning? If the medals are essentially worthless is that really an issue? That's a touch over the top maybe, but like I said he could move to Rovers and win medals. He could also get "guaranteed european football" every year, but what's the use if its a case of either going out in the qualifiers or maybe going out in the groups?

From an Irish perspective, his game will go backwards in Scotland, he'll lose a bit of sharpness that'll come with playing against vastly inferior defenders and it'll pretty much signal the winding down of his career, which would be a shame, because he's too good for that and at this point in his career he's far too good for Scotland, I hope he realises that. He could definitely get a far better move than Celtic, if he has to leave Spurs.

ziggy

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Slash/ED

ziggy wrote: »

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2 teams indeed, beyond that, I point to the last 3 meetings between LOI and SPL sides in Europe. I'm certainly not implying Celtic and Rangers are barely above LOI standard.

Brewster

Slash/ED wrote: »

2 teams indeed, beyond that, I point to the last 3 meetings between LOI and SPL sides in Europe. I'm certainly not implying Celtic and Rangers are barely above LOI standard.

Celtic and Rangers ARE in the SPL though, and as such they must be taken into account when comparing the sum total standards of the league.

Slash/ED

Brewster wrote: »

Celtic and Rangers ARE in the SPL though, and as such they must be taken into account when comparing the sum total standards of the league.

Of the teams Keane will be playing against, one is Rangers, ten are not. Overall, of the 11 teams he'll play against each season, the overall standard is above the LOI certainly, but not by any great margin. It's a league beneath a player of Keanes record.

OhNoYouDidn't

Slash/ED wrote: »

Yes but medal winning? If the medals are essentially worthless is that really an issue? That's a touch over the top maybe, but like I said he could move to Rovers and win medals. He could also get "guaranteed european football" every year, but what's the use if its a case of either going out in the qualifiers or maybe going out in the groups?

But its more medals and European ball then he will get at Spurs, nevermind any other English club that he is likely to go to.

Slash/ED wrote: »

From an Irish perspective, his game will go backwards in Scotland, he'll lose a bit of sharpness that'll come with playing against vastly inferior defenders and it'll pretty much signal the winding down of his career, which would be a shame, because he's too good for that and at this point in his career he's far too good for Scotland, I hope he realises that.

But his career is winding down. And he is facing a trophyless one. His Irish place is guranteed no matter where he moves, so why not Celtic and be a hero to the fans?

Slash/ED wrote: »

He could definitely get a far better move than Celtic, if he has to leave Spurs.

Possibly, but that depends on your definition of better. If you think Bolton or Wigan to fight relegation while the club goes bankrupt is a better move, thats your opinion. If you think 60,000 fans, medals, and CL football isn't, well good for you.

Slash/ED

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

But its more medals and European ball then he will get at Spurs, nevermind any other English club that he is likely to go to.

Yeah but even factoring in european football he'll be playing against better teams on a regular basis in England

But his career is winding down. And he is facing a trophyless one. His Irish place is guranteed no matter where he moves, so why not Celtic and be a hero to the fans?

I just don't think it is, he's 29! He's a good bit away from the age where he needs to step down from top level football and omg spl outrage aside, that's what this is, sorry lads. He certainly wont lose his Irish place, but he'll be a lesser player, which is bad for us.

Possibly, but that depends on your definition of better. If you think Bolton or Wigan to fight relegation while the club goes bankrupt is a better move, thats your opinion. If you think 60,000 fans, medals, and CL football isn't, well good for you.

Why do you assume that'd be all he could get? His premiership record speaks for itself. No reason he couldn't end up at a Villa or Everton or whatever level club, or maybe someone like Valencia abroad if they sell Villa and Silva in the summer. Not saying these are likely but they're the level he should be looking at imo, and he should be a bit more ambitious than Scotland

premierstone

population wrote: »

Also he has an overinflated sense of his own abilities as a player.

Is there any basis or facts you are privy to that backs up this accusation or is it just another fine example of Irish begrudgery?

ziggy

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Slash/ED

ziggy wrote: »

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Well you're wrong

They are Derry pretty much destroying Gretna (5-1 on agg in the end iirc? Open to correction there), Bohs beating Aberdeen and Kilbmarnock scraping past Shelbourne from memory, Celtic Pats may have been in between those but I'm not comparing old firm v loi anyway. Relevence? It's a way of assessing the relative gap in standards between the LOI and middle of the road Scottish sides. It shows that gap isn't quite what you'd like to believe.

Derry was, what, 2 seasons ago, btw? Aberdeen v Bohs was 2001/2002ish. "A long time ago" they weren't.

Brewster

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

But its more medals and European ball then he will get at Spurs, nevermind any other English club that he is likely to go to.



But his career is winding down. And he is facing a trophyless one. His Irish place is guranteed no matter where he moves, so why not Celtic and be a hero to the fans?



Possibly, but that depends on your definition of better. If you think Bolton or Wigan to fight relegation while the club goes bankrupt is a better move, thats your opinion. If you think 60,000 fans, medals, and CL football isn't, well good for you.

There is no guarantee of medals and CL football at Celtic Football Club. To imply that it is a given is clearly off the mark. Keane at Celtic would get to compete for CL football and medals, this is what you should be saying!!

Bobalicious93

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

But his career is winding down. And he is facing a trophyless one.