Eircom takes majority stake in DTT consortium

bealtine

Eircom takes majority stake in DTT consortium - report Tuesday 22 December 2009

Eircom has moved to take a majority 65 percent stake in Irish DTT consortium One Vision, in a move which considerably improves the chances of resolving the current DTT impasse, reports the Irish Independent. Under changes notified to the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland in the week ending 18 December, Eircom would control 65 percent of One Vision, with Arqiva controlling 25 percent and Setanta 10 percent. A 'nominal' shareholding would also be held by TV3. The move could help One Vision reach a binding agreement with broadcasting infrastructure provider RTE, which has a EUR 20 million security deposit to help cover its DTT infrastructure investment. Once unnamed source close to the process told the Irish Independent that the revised structure of the JV could have a positive impact on this security dispute. Industry sources said it made sense for Eircom to take a controlling stake in One Vision as this would allow it to offer triple-play phone, broadband and TV services to compete with rival cable operator UPC Ireland.

rob808

bealtine wrote: »

Eircom takes majority stake in DTT consortium - report Tuesday 22 December 2009

Eircom has moved to take a majority 65 percent stake in Irish DTT consortium One Vision, in a move which considerably improves the chances of resolving the current DTT impasse, reports the Irish Independent. Under changes notified to the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland in the week ending 18 December, Eircom would control 65 percent of One Vision, with Arqiva controlling 25 percent and Setanta 10 percent. A 'nominal' shareholding would also be held by TV3. The move could help One Vision reach a binding agreement with broadcasting infrastructure provider RTE, which has a EUR 20 million security deposit to help cover its DTT infrastructure investment. Once unnamed source close to the process told the Irish Independent that the revised structure of the JV could have a positive impact on this security dispute. Industry sources said it made sense for Eircom to take a controlling stake in One Vision as this would allow it to offer triple-play phone, broadband and TV services to compete with rival cable operator UPC Ireland.

The funny thing is how the quilty going to be on our slow broadband connections even for people lucky to get 7mb on there line and they could never really compete with UPC since cable is far better than copper line a well see how it goes when eircom finally roll out there VDSL+2 first in Dublin

watty

More than 1km from exchange there is very little difference between VDSLxx and ADSLxx etc
See graphs http://www.techtir.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=2307

Average length in Ireland is about 3km. Amazingly only about 15% of lines are too long, though quality is a separate issue. There is also "Reach" plant that can go at the 2km or 3km (or even at 5km fed by bonded pairs) to give 3Mbps to many that are too far for 512k ADSL2+.

The real solution outside Urban is fibre nodes and mix of Fixed Wireless, VDSL+ and ADSL2+ on the cabinets to give a minimum of 5Mbps and 10Mbps to 20Mbps to most.

In Urban / Suburban a minimum of 20Mbps with typical 100Mbps is easily achieved with mix of HFC, FTTC/FTTK/FTTH/ cable and VDSL.

People should only need Mobile for Mobile use and Satellite for major disaster Recovery/Backup not for regular Fixed Internet use.

Decent Broadband and 1 Terabyte cap would be the death knell for pay DTT, which is pretty much doomed by Sky + UPC + Freesat. Only the Public Service Free Mux is viable.

Will Canvass be blocked here? Will UPC internet users subscribe to UK proxies if it is?

rob808

watty wrote: »

More than 1km from exchange there is very little difference between VDSLxx and ADSLxx etc
See graphs http://www.techtir.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=2307

Average length in Ireland is about 3km. Amazingly only about 15% of lines are too long, though quality is a separate issue. There is also "Reach" plant that can go at the 2km or 3km (or even at 5km fed by bonded pairs) to give 3Mbps to many that are too far for 512k ADSL2+.

The real solution outside Urban is fibre nodes and mix of Fixed Wireless, VDSL+ and ADSL2+ on the cabinets to give a minimum of 5Mbps and 10Mbps to 20Mbps to most.

In Urban / Suburban a minimum of 20Mbps with typical 100Mbps is easily achieved with mix of HFC, FTTC/FTTK/FTTH/ cable and VDSL.

People should only need Mobile for Mobile use and Satellite for major disaster Recovery/Backup not for regular Fixed Internet use.

Decent Broadband and 1 Terabyte cap would be the death knell for pay DTT, which is pretty much doomed by Sky + UPC + Freesat. Only the Public Service Free Mux is viable.

Will Canvass be blocked here? Will UPC internet users subscribe to UK proxies if it is?

I think eircom will first focuses on urban city first then rural town they won't give VDSL+2 to rural house outside town because they be to far out to get faster broadband thought can't see eircom offerings higher speed above 25mb in both urban city and rural towns for few years that if they even bother getting start

watty

There are almost no fibre Nodes, FTTC, FTTK in eircom. So VDSL2+ on current infrastucture would be PR as it would benfit only 10% or so, and Most of then will be able to get higher speed, cheaper from UPC.

Sponge Bob

You will see eircom extending their 'up to' 24mbits in 2010 because they can.

As the existing exchanges can offer VDSL2+ with a simple line card installation they will probably offer it by year end where they come under pressure ...initially in the cities because of UPC but elsewhere too.

The VDSL2+ coverage will be dismal , they can cover no more than about 5000 sq km owing to lack of fibre and the state has an area of 70,000 sq km or so.