EPL Team of the Year 2009 - Central Defence

The Volt

Could people also give their thoughts on whether we should have one or two polls? Personally I'd be in favour of just the one and the top two get in.

Also, votes will be visable this time so we can see who votes for who.

titan18

R. Ferdinand

I'd prefer one and the top 2 get in

JPA

These are going so well!!

Cuellar

It's gotta be Rio or Vidic or O Shea when either was injured.

ziggy

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Helix

Cuellar

aye just run one for dunnes partner

GavRedKing

Cuellar

1 poll top 2 get in seems the best way of managing it, saves people having to go between two seperate threads.

The Volt

Bramble

I voted for Ryan Shawcross. In a team that is constantly tested, he has been fantastic for the most part and has chipped in with the odd goal too. Integral to Stoke's survival last season and may not be at the Brittania for much longer if he continues to shine.

Diabhal Beag

Cuellar

I said Dunne and Hangeland

Pepe LeFrits

Turner

I'm waiting until it's clear who is in the running for second before voting

leninbenjamin

Turner

This is actually a tough one. The usual candidates' form has been stuttering this season (Carvalho, Terry, Carragher, Lescott) or interrupted by injury (Ferdinand, Vidic). Dunne didn't have a great start to the year with City so he really shouldn't be in the running either.

Cahill did very well for Bolton last season, but I'm not sure how good he is this season. Hangeland's been great, and Shawcross too...

Gack! I can't decide...

think I'll follow Pepe's lead.

GavRedKing

Cuellar

To be fair I wolud normally go for Vidic and Carvalho as the best possible defensive pair in the league, but in 09 Carvalho has been injured to much, which is a pity so I gave my next choice to Dunne as i expect Vidic to get the other spot in this team.

Fuhrer

R. Ferdinand

Interesting, I know which two id pick as the best but I probably wouldnt want them playing together.

Morzadec

R. Ferdinand

You could allow for multiple voting and ask people to vote for 2. That way people can choose whatever partnership suits best. That's the way I ran it in the summer.

Probably won't make a difference though, I'd expect Dunne and Vidic to take the two spots either way, which they are probably deserving of. But if I was to choose a partnership, these guys wouldn't be ideal as they are both similar and there would be a serious lack of pace.

keane2097

Bramble

Michael Carrick IMO.

Helix

Cuellar

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Dunne didn't have a great start to the year with City so he really shouldn't be in the running either.

he played 2 games?

Pepe LeFrits

Turner

What's the story with Alex this season? Thought he was Chelsea's best CB last season.

leninbenjamin

Turner

Helix wrote: »

he played 2 games?

so those 21 other games were a figment of my imagination?

leninbenjamin

Turner

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

What's the story with Alex this season? Thought he was Chelsea's best CB last season.

It seems Terry is undroppable and Carvalho is thus preferred by Ancelotti. I find it daft myself, he's as good a defender as Terry and a much better goal threat.

GLaDOS

Turner

Voting for Dunne is a bit silly imo, he was not good for city for the first half of the year, he's only beeen worthy of it since his move to Villa.

I went for Hangeland, brilliantly consistant, and Fulham were watertight last season

GavRedKing

Cuellar

leninbenjamin wrote: »

It seems Terry is undroppable and Carvalho is thus preferred by Ancelotti. I find it daft myself, he's as good a defender as Terry and a much better goal threat.

alex is only coming back from injury, but I agree with ye, if Terry wasnt captain I would play Carvalho and Alex, Alex really stepped up last season in Carvalhos injury spells.

glanman

Samba

is this pool for the calender year 2009 or the season 2009, august to now??

leninbenjamin

Turner

gavredking wrote: »

alex is only coming back from injury,

But he's played twice already...

Morzadec

R. Ferdinand

Although Vidic hasn't played much/shone much this season, he did enough in the early months to justify my vote. Can't really see many other stand-out candidates

GavRedKing

Cuellar

leninbenjamin wrote: »

But he's played twice already...

I should have worded that better, sorry, he has had niggles that has kept him out, it would be interesting to see what Carlo would do when Bosingwa comes back and either Terry or Carvalho has to be replaced, I would throw Alex in there everyday of the week ahead of Ivanovic, hes a fine player and has had some good solid displays when called upon.

Jax Teller

Samba

Dunney monster

GLaDOS

Turner

gavredking wrote: »

be interesting to see what Carlo would do when Bosingwa comes back and either Terry or Carvalho has to be replaced,

I imagine it would be more of a question of whether Bosingwa gets his right back spot back, Ivanovich has certainly been performing well enough to keep the spot

Redzer7

King

Has to be good ol' Bramble .

carlop

Turner

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Voting for Dunne is a bit silly imo, he was not good for city for the first half of the year, he's only beeen worthy of it since his move to Villa.

I went for Hangeland, brilliantly consistant, and Fulham were watertight last season

I was pretty much going to write the same post! Dunne wasn't great at all at the start of the calendar year. People are voting for him with his performances for Ireland, which were nothing short of heroic, and his recent form in mind.

I also voted for Hangeland.

curry-muff

R. Ferdinand

Can you not do the other type of poll with the checkboxes to vote for 2 defenders

Xavi6

Bramble

Shawcross and Hangeland

therokerroar

Bramble

Shawcross.

He was superb last season and has continued to do well this season, he gets my vote.

RasTa

R. Ferdinand

Vidic for the run of clean sheets. I haven't seen enough of Shawcross and Dunne was woeful for City in 09.

therokerroar

Bramble

Xavi6 wrote: »

Shawcross and Hangeland

I'd agree with that mate.

kida

R. Ferdinand

where Johnny Evans ? Pool and Chelsea have 3 so thats not the reason?

redzerdrog

Turner

hangeland for me

Xavi6

Bramble

kida wrote: »

where Johnny Evans ?

Treatment room

therokerroar

Bramble

Vidic and Dunne seem like they will run away with this - What a shock :rolleyes:

I can understand Vidic being in there but Dunne was awful for most of 2009, there's no way that he deserves to be ahead of the consistently excellent Hangeland or Shawcross on the back of a decent 3 months with Villa.

It was inevitable though, wasn't it :rolleyes:

Liam O

R. Ferdinand

LOL at Ferdinand having 0 votes and Dunne looks like he's running away with the 2nd spot

Edit: just noticed Titus Bramble has more votes than Rio...

event

Dawson

my christ, i am the only one so far to vote for Rio, yet people have voted for upson and Cuellar.

i am now convinced more than ever that most people on this forum havent a clue about football and just believe whatever Dunphy and co say

If he played in Italy or spain he'd be hailed as one of the best defenders of the last 10 years in Europe

mink_man

R. Ferdinand

typical, people voting on what they remmeeber from this season, not last..

dunne wasnt one of the best last season, this yes, but not last season...

vidic is in cos of the run of clean sheets, but the other position is tough...

shawcross i think should get the other spot, in a team with a great defensive record always...

GLaDOS

Turner

event wrote: »

my christ, i am the only one so far to vote for Rio, yet people have voted for upson and Cuellar.

i am now convinced more than ever that most people on this forum havent a clue about football and just believe whatever Dunphy and co say

If he played in Italy or spain he'd be hailed as one of the best defenders of the last 10 years in Europe

What has he done this year to make him the best defender in 2009?

The Volt

Bramble

Not surprised at Dunne's number of votes. People definitely have short term memories for polls like this. City were leaking goals for the majority of the last campaign and he was sent off more than once if I remember correctly.

Johner

Gallas

event wrote: »

my christ, i am the only one so far to vote for Rio, yet people have voted for upson and Cuellar.

i am now convinced more than ever that most people on this forum havent a clue about football and just believe whatever Dunphy and co say

If he played in Italy or spain he'd be hailed as one of the best defenders of the last 10 years in Europe

Lol.

event

Dawson

ScienceNerd wrote: »

What has he done this year to make him the best defender in 2009?

helped a team get to the champions league final, won a league.

what did upson do?

x PyRo

Jagielka

These are pointless polls, you either have to be Irish or play for Man United to win it.

Bukman13

R. Ferdinand

Liam O wrote: »

LOL at Ferdinand having 0 votes and Dunne looks like he's running away with the 2nd spot

Edit: just noticed Titus Bramble has more votes than Rio...

Thats because the vote/poll is flawed.

If it were possible to have two votes each the results would be more realistic.

As has been said, the stand out defender throughout 2009 was Vidic.

Suppose everyone who votes for Vidic believes Carvalho should be 2nd.

Vidic ends up with 100% of the vote and Carvalho gets 0%...

It is clear already that something is wrong. When 3 of the worlds best defenders Terry, Carvalho and Rio only have 10% of the overall vote combined.

L'prof

Come on lads Dunne and Hangeland, sure it's only a bit of fun...not like we're voting for the best players in the world ever

eagle eye

Bukman13 wrote: »

Thats because the vote/poll is flawed.

If it were possible to have two votes each the results would be more realistic.

As has been said, the stand out defender throughout 2009 was Vidic.

Suppose everyone who votes for Vidic believes Carvalho should be 2nd.

Vidic ends up with 100% of the vote and Carvalho gets 0%...

It is clear already that something is wrong. When 3 of the worlds best defenders Terry, Carvalho and Rio only have 10% of the overall vote combined.

You are not with it at all, if there were two votes it would end up either two United central defenders or Vidic and Dunne as its likely to be.

Eire-Dearg

Cuellar

Dunne and one of Hangeland/Shawcross. Not Vidic after Torres made him skid his jocks.

L'prof

Where the hell is the option for Vermaelen??? Deserves a spot on that list!