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  • #2
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    So then about 6 million people go to footie matches in the year and about 2000 get arrested?


  • #3
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Sky Sports New certainly wouldn't report, it would tarnish the image.

    I believe it has been curtailed, but the recent Millwall/West Ham trouble shows it hasn't disappeared.

    If you were to believe the Oirish media though, there is a much worse problem here, which is an absolute travesty and lies.


  • #4
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Des wrote: »
    Sky Sports New certainly wouldn't report, it would tarnish the image.

    I believe it has been curtailed, but the recent Millwall/West Ham trouble shows it hasn't disappeared.

    If you were to believe the Oirish media though, there is a much worse problem here, which is an absolute travesty and lies.

    It does kick off here but rarely. (Pardon the pun)


  • #5
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    mike65 wrote: »
    So then about 6 million people go to footie matches in the year and about 2000 get arrested?

    Arrested. These are the incidents that are properly policed. I could almost guarantee there are a large number of incidents that take place that the police get nowhere near.


  • #6
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    orourkeda wrote: »
    It does kick off here but rarely. (Pardon the pun)

    I know there are problems assiciated with certain aspects of support in this country, I'm not denying.

    But if anyone thinks it's anywhere near the scale that it is on the mainland then they are delusional or have an agenda.

    Here, it's mostly "skoolies" pretending to fight, and it sometimes becomes physical, over the water though, it's actually adults, men in their 20s, 30s and 40s who are actually physically engaging outside grounds in arranged skirmishes.

    It is there, it does happen, but not on the scale of the 70s and 80s.


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  • #7
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Des is in a feisty mood - Mainland? :eek:


  • #8
    Gavin "shels"
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Never gone away tbh, look across Europe for example. It's only died down in England due to the fact many of the hooligans probably can't afford tickets anymore.


  • #9
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Des wrote: »
    I know there are problems assiciated with certain aspects of support in this country, I'm not denying.

    But if anyone thinks it's anywhere near the scale that it is on the mainland then they are delusional or have an agenda.

    Here, it's mostly "skoolies" pretending to fight, and it sometimes becomes physical, over the water though, it's actually adults, men in their 20s, 30s and 40s who are actually physically engaging outside grounds in arranged skirmishes.

    It is there, it does happen, but not on the scale of the 70s and 80s.

    Its definitely only handbags here.

    Still some of the incidents in England are pretty serious.


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
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    Des wrote: »

    But if anyone thinks it's anywhere near the scale that it is on the mainland then they are delusional or have an agenda.

    :eek:


  • #11
    mink_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    NO!...


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  • #12
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    As someone who very regularly attends Arsenal matches, can hontsly say I rarely see any trouble if any at all, that is based on the last 10 years, and I have always felt safe at matches, much safer then I would on a weekend night out in Dublin.

    From what I have seen heard, things are far worse in other parts of Europe but tend not to get reported much


    Just looked at the figures, ah come on lads, at utd for instance 185 arrested, this is over a season!!!!


  • #13
    Bandit12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Bandit12


    No. Got caught up in a incident last year after the Villa away match so i know first hand that it's not. You hear less and less about it now as it's not in the interest of the media and with the World Cup bid coming up it will get reported less and less. It's nothing like it used to be in the 80's i'd say.


  • #14
    Le King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    We may have the most hooligan arrests. But I'd love to know how many hubcaps have been stolen outside Anfield.


  • #15
    Bandit12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Bandit12


    Osu wrote: »
    We may have the most hooligan arrests. But I'd love to know how many hubcaps have been stolen outside Anfield.
    :o for ya.


  • #16
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    mike65 wrote: »
    So then about 6 million people go to footie matches in the year and about 2000 get arrested?

    And if you believe some people about 1600 of them are Rangers fans! :D


  • #17
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    United top of the league, yesssss


  • #18
    Le King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    Bandit12 wrote: »
    :o for ya.

    How?.......


  • #19
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Des wrote: »
    But if anyone thinks it's anywhere near the scale that it is on the mainland then they are delusional or have an agenda.

    If you were to believe the Oirish media though, there is a much worse problem here

    .


    :confused: Also i see you are a Mod. I dont get it. It seems you are trying to stir things. Maybe i'm wrong.....


  • #20
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Yeah f*ck sake Des


  • #21
    The Muppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    :confused: Also i see you are a Mod. I dont get it. It seems you are trying to stir things. Maybe i'm wrong.....

    Yes your are wrong , Des is 110 years old, he never really got over King Georges death.


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  • #22
    kenco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭kenco


    Very much an ongoing issue. Amazing the amount of time there is 'traffic' delay problems!

    The powers that be a happy to keep the problems away from the grounds and promote the myth that the issue is under control


  • #23
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Maybe this thread should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum.


  • #24
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Have a couple of mates in UK who are season ticket holders and go to most away games. they say it's still almost as bad as ever but as long as it's kept away from the stadiums and the cameras the authorities are happy and obviosly it suits sky to keep a lid on it.


  • #25
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    How old are your mates? They obviously didn't see the football violence of the 70s and 80s, because it is nowhere near what it was like back then. Not even in the same league.


  • #26
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Bandit12 wrote: »
    No. Got caught up in a incident last year after the Villa away match so i know first hand that it's not. You hear less and less about it now as it's not in the interest of the media and with the World Cup bid coming up it will get reported less and less. It's nothing like it used to be in the 80's i'd say.


    Well I have loads of first hand experience at Arsenal, their is little or no trouble at matches, certainly nothing in the stadium, pubs near by and surrounding stadiums, not to say that incidents do not occur which I'm sure happens to some extent including Ireland.


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