Woman knocks down pope

Min

bronte wrote: »

He's entirely out of touch with reality.
How many people are going to follow that advice?
Contraception was viewed by him in a negative light, which given his power and influence is a very serious matter.
He has blood on his hands.

In Uganda they adopted abstinence and being faithful when only 14% used condoms, this is what led to Dr Green investigating what worked and he found condoms were the least effective.
He found in Uganda that people changed their behaviour - first time for sex (average) went to the later teens and people were being more faithful to one partner which reduced the risk significantly. It was not condoms that were the solution, the Ugandan people changed their sexual behaviour.

He warned countries in Africa that putting the main focus on condoms is dangerous and they must keep the message of abstinence and being faithful in the limelight, this was after some campaigns went more the condom route and rates started to rise again.

Maybe the condom pushers have the blood on their hands, maybe it is why sexual disease levels continue to rise in Ireland.

bronte

Min wrote: »

Maybe the condom pushers have the blood on their hands, maybe it is why sexual disease levels continue to rise in Ireland.

Oh yeah, that's definitely it. :rolleyes:

Min

ynotdu wrote: »

No offense Min but really expecting abstinance or sticking with one partner is not how the vast majority of people act.Sad but true,It does not need a DR before a persons name to deny what they see with their own eyes!

That is because some want everything, it is like the celtic tiger, that attitude will only lead to the worsening of the sexual disease epidemic in Ireland.

Min

bronte wrote: »

Oh yeah, that's definitely it. :rolleyes:

Tell me why with Ireland's high condom use are sexual disease levels rising at an alarming rate?


http://www.irishhealth.com/clin/sexual_health/features2.html?artid=2835

bronte

Do you genuinely believe that everyone who uses condoms are "promiscuous"?

The guy was hugely irresponsible. No two ways about it.

RayM

Elderly man knocked to the ground.

Tediously predictable reaction on Internet forum.

laugh

dirty church, send back some of money we sent over for years, the shares in shell and ibm, the millions of pounds worth of art.

Sharpshooter

RayM wrote: »

Elderly man knocked to the ground.

Tediously predictable reaction on Internet forum.

Why comment so?

Haven't you just posted a tediously predictable reaction?

Min

bronte wrote: »

Do you genuinely believe that everyone who uses condoms are "promiscuous"?

The guy was hugely irresponsible. No two ways about it.

I'm not judging everyone, I just see condoms being promoted when it comes to sex in Ireland, I don't see any messages about delaying the first time for sex (abstinence) or being faithful to one partner being promoted by the media.

I do read reports of the level of sexual disease rising and one can't blame the Pope for that.
It is the same in Africa, research shows the Pope promotes what is most effective but it is like some people have shares in condom companies.

ynotdu

Min wrote: »

That is because some want everything, it is like the celtic tiger, that attitude will only lead to the worsening of the sexual disease epidemic in Ireland.

Min again on christmas day i dont want to argue.
The fact is that the non use of contraception in Ireland led to the Laundrets were children were torn from their mothers,put in 'care homes'were they were physicly and sexually abused as were their children who were placed in 'care'

This was driven by the teachings of the Catholic church and the cowardice of Irish people who cow-towed to the Catholic church(the religion i was reared on)

There is a HUGH diffrience between the teachings of the Catholic church and Christs words.(i am now an agnostic/humanist)

Min

RayM wrote: »

Elderly man knocked to the ground.

Tediously predictable reaction on Internet forum.

I think some will only be happy when he is assassinated, the Vatican needs better protection for the Pope or it could be worse than 1981.

ANXIOUS

MagicMarker wrote: »

good

Why are you happy that a man got hurt? Was it for the thanks that you thought would come? Im sure it was.

If you don't agree with his beliefs fair enough but dont rejoice in a fellow human being hurt, that is just low.

Sir Gallagher

Proxy wrote: »

It doesn't matter that he's old. In my book he's in the same chapter as Hitler. A madman protected by a personality cult, unbelievably influential to his followers with his insane and irrational views. How about some army pops in and "liberates" the Vatican City?

And the condom issue - how could he possibly - EVER - state that he is against condoms to prevent AIDS?

The Papacy is a horrific facade outdated by at least a century. Being briefly knocked over is the least he should get. Hope he chokes on a turkey bone.

Comparing the pope to Hitler is beyond stupid.

Min

ynotdu wrote: »

Min again on christmas day i dont want to argue.
The fact is that the non use of contraception in Ireland led to the Laundrets were children were torn from their mothers,put in 'care homes'were they were physicly and sexually abused as were their children who were placed in 'care'

This was driven by the teachings of the Catholic church and the cowardice of Irish people who cow-towed to the Catholic church(the religion i was reared on)

There is a HUGH diffrience between the teachings of the Catholic church and Christs words.(i am now an agnostic/humanist)

It is not the teaching of the church that Jesus set up that anyone should be abused.

RayM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Why comment so?

Haven't you just posted a tediously predictable reaction?

Well... I didn't say: "LOL PWNED, sevres him rite 4 BANNIGN codnoms, teh Natsi cutn lol"

So, no...

Dean820

Thats women drivers for ya.

ANXIOUS

Proxy wrote: »

It doesn't matter that he's old. In my book he's in the same chapter as Hitler. A madman protected by a personality cult, unbelievably influential to his followers with his insane and irrational views. How about some army pops in and "liberates" the Vatican City?

And the condom issue - how could he possibly - EVER - state that he is against condoms to prevent AIDS?

The Papacy is a horrific facade outdated by at least a century. Being briefly knocked over is the least he should get. Hope he chokes on a turkey bone.

Your a great chap all together. You basically being biast towrads somewhere because of their beliefs well done. Hope you wake up tomorrow all proud of yourself.

Kinetic^

I wonder if the bishops will turn a blind eye to this abuse.

ANXIOUS

Dean820 wrote: »

Thats women drivers for ya.

Already said.

Dean820

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Already said.

ynotdu

Min wrote: »

It is not the teaching of the church that Jesus set up that anyone should be abused.

Min the pope is supposed to be the direct descendant of St Peter who according to the Bible was appointed by Jesus to be his vicar on Earth(the 1st pope.

..........on this rock............etc,Why cant You admit that the Catholic church has almost NEVER lived by the Bible?

Regarding the Pope being attacked it should not be a source of pleasure to ANYBODY! IMO

blackbetty69

terrible story that, poor pope

Dean820

Whats the pope gonna do, forgive her? What a pussy. :L

I guess next will be hearing how the woman had past mental issues.

Sharpshooter

RayM wrote: »

Well... I didn't say: "LOL PWNED, sevres him rite 4 BANNIGN codnoms, teh Natsi cutn lol"

So, no...

Yeah, but your post was a tedious predictable reaction on the Internet all the while putting down tedious predictable reactions on the Internet.

So, yes...

RayM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Yeah, but your post was a tedious predictable reaction on the Internet all the while putting down tedious predictable reactions on the Internet.

So, yes...

...and, not without a small amount of irony, it should have been equally predictable that my observation about the tedious predictability of this thread should lead to this... frankly tedious exchange.

ynotdu

RayM wrote: »

...and, not without a small amount of irony, it should have been equally predictable that my observation about the tedious predictability of this thread should lead to this... frankly tedious exchange.

An even Bigger Irony,You posted another tedious post here to say how tedious You found the thread!

speedboatchase

I don't like the Pope or Berlusconi, but there's nothing "good" about them being attacked. We're talking about elderly people, anybody that gets pleasure from this is a tard

Sharpshooter

RayM wrote: »

...and, not without a small amount of irony, it should have been equally predictable that my observation about the tedious predictability of this thread should lead to this... frankly tedious exchange.

ynotdu wrote: »

An even Bigger Irony,You posted another tedious post here to say how tedious You found the thread!

Isn't this getting a bit tedious now.:pac:

It's CHRISTMAS!!!!!:D

x in the city

prob that loon who ran onto the grand prix track...

rizzee

Kev_ps3

Nice morning present for all the anti-Catholics.
I imagine if it was the Queen getting floored would ye post with the same glee :rolleyes:

m@cc@

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Nice morning present for all the anti-Catholics.
I imagine if it was the Queen getting floored would ye post with the same glee :rolleyes:

Quite possibly. Shall we put it to a vote?

Kev_ps3

MagicMarker wrote: »

good

Good ol anti-Catholicism :rolleyes:

Lexus1976

Xavi6 wrote: »

Serious?

Feckin RTE have it up as being 13 minutes old. Bastards!

Many happy returns!

Boards have it up as over 10 hours old.

Agent Smith

What Ever youer beliefs Are, People really shouldnt be Making fun of someone attacking the head of the largest church in the world, and and 82 year old man.

I dont agree with everything The Roman Catholic church says, but he deserves respect.

ihadu

Sharpshooter wrote: »

I was watching the news when the story broke.
They said they have arrested the woman who they believe is deranged.

Fair play to him for continuing with the mass though.

I wonder will he show his christian spirit and see that she is looked after rather than locked up.

Some Pope!

HA HA. i believe you believe that

Shazbot

Agent Smith wrote: »

I dont agree with everything The Roman Catholic church says, but he deserves respect.

I don't agree with what the Catholic church does but they sure as hell don't deserve respect.
One of the largest and richest organizations in the world and corrupt to the core. Run by an old fool with outdated ideas.

I'll show him, and the church respect when they confess their own sins and lead by example.

A useless organization slowing down the progress of the modern world.

I still don't condone attacking the pope though.

MagicMarker

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Why are you happy that a man got hurt? Was it for the thanks that you thought would come? Im sure it was.

If you don't agree with his beliefs fair enough but dont rejoice in a fellow human being hurt, that is just low.

is there anything youtube isn't good for?

Piste

bronte wrote: »

He's entirely out of touch with reality.
How many people are going to follow that advice?
Contraception was viewed by him in a negative light, which given his power and influence is a very serious matter.
He has blood on his hands.

If he's so influential, then people will obey his message about abstinence as well as his message about condoms and not pick and choose.

walrusgumble

The Catholic Press will be busy this week. The Cathedral in Longford was burn't down, a miracle no one was killed. Jesus with the Guinness brewery and bomb scare at the docklands in dublin and the many car collissions, the police and ambulance etc have being kept busy this week

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1225/longford.html

The_Minister

Duiske wrote: »

I don't understand the picture in the OP. If it was a woman that attacked him, why did the pope bitch-slap the bishop ??

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Dec/Week2/15498518.jpg

Why is John Gormley there???:eek:

mickoneill30

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Nice morning present for all the anti-Catholics.

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Good ol anti-Catholicism :rolleyes:

Nah. That's not anti-Catholicism. Being anti-Catholic doesn't mean you think its funny for a woman to knock over an old geezer. That's more like pro-idiocy.

The_Minister

bronte wrote: »

He's entirely out of touch with reality.
How many people are going to follow that advice?
Contraception was viewed by him in a negative light, which given his power and influence is a very serious matter.
He has blood on his hands.

Because in the Catholic Church the sins of fornication and contraception are not equal.
Fornication > contraception.

If you are going to have sex outside marriage, against Chruch teaching, then you aren't going to pay attention to the teachings on contraception either.

kincsem

The woman is Swiss. I thought they were neutral.

GLUEY

Fuppin' Nazi.

kincsem

On Sky News ....... an elderly cardinal suffered a broken leg.

rovert

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Comparing the pope to Hitler is beyond stupid.

Well the Pope and Hitler did hang out

Liam Byrne

Sharpshooter wrote: »

I wonder will he show his christian spirit and see that she is looked after rather than locked up.

Probably not : she's female, so she's not a bishop.

kisaragi

While I wouldn't normally be happy to hear an old man was knocked down I'll make an exception for the pope. He's not a good man. Covering up child abuse and then years later releasing hypocritical statements about how "sorry" he is it happened. Doing everything in his power to deny same-sex couples civil marriage rights. Giving his sermon about selfishness when his church seems to focus most of its energy on self-preservation at whatever cost.

No, I really do not like that man.

rovert

Agent Smith wrote: »

What Ever youer beliefs Are, People really shouldnt be Making fun of someone attacking the head of the largest church in the world, and and 82 year old man.

I dont agree with everything The Roman Catholic church says, but he deserves respect.

Can you not accept that maybe just maybe people are this upset at the Catholic churches treatment of their victimns?

Long overdue if anything.