Hull City Vs. Manchester United

Mikeyt086

ragg wrote: »

United fans chanting - Your **** and we're champions - champions who are having a horrendous run of form and look pretty average this game so far

Well in fairness, they are ****, we are champions, and we are 1-0 up. Sing away lads.

nullzero

What a flcik from Giggsy. True class.

Ush1

Des wrote: »

OK, so since Beckham was playing there are two incidents of players getting booked for clapping.

It' not in the rules. Football doesn't have "rules", it has Laws, which are interpreted by the judges, the refs.

There is no black and white.

You're arguing semantics. There's hundreds of incidents across the globe of players getting booked for it.

The Muppet

Scored in spite of ourselves there.

Our passing is woeful today:mad:

Nemanja91

c'mon yesssss

Bukman13

Great Cross by Fletch...

Xavi6

Des wrote: »

OK, so since Beckham was playing there are two incidents of players getting booked for clapping.

It' not in the rules. Football doesn't have "rules", it has Laws, which are interpreted by the judges, the refs.

There is no black and white.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/claphappy-rooney-shown-red-after-referees-yellow-card-injustice-506931.html

Ferguson said later: "I think Wayne reacts to injustice. He felt it was a wrongful booking but you cannot applaud the referee. I thought it was for putting his hand on the referee but apparently it was for clapping.

And if Fergie said it it must be true

MagicMarker

nullzero wrote: »

What a flcik from Giggsy. True class.

He didn't get a touch on it.

Obertan for Giggs please.

anplaya

nullzero wrote: »

What a flcik from Giggsy. True class.

flick?looks like he missed it?could be wrong though
ooh nice effort from hull there.game far from over.

Johner

United a bit fortunate to be going in 1-0 up.

Rafael has been United's best player by far, looks class.

mike65

Headshot wrote: »

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

2 more mike, 2 more

come on

We'll drag that cash out of PP yet!

nullzero

Xavi6 wrote: »

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/claphappy-rooney-shown-red-after-referees-yellow-card-injustice-506931.html



And if Fergie said it it must be true

Footballers clap at ref's all the time. It's s stupid thing to do. I've seen players at all the big clubs do it, should we oraginise a witch hunt to sort it out?
Football is full of stupid things like that, just because a player at a certain club does it does it make it worse than it already is?

Ush1

nullzero wrote: »

Footballers clap at ref's all the time. It's s stupid thing to do. I've seen players at all the big clubs do it, should we oraginise a witch hunt to sort it out?
Football is full of stupid things like that, just because a player at a certain club does it does it make it worse than it already is?

What are you on about? He simply said it was a bookable offence, which it is. End of.

Hoki

Wow what a cheesy cheesy Ray Houghton ad for The Star just there

nullzero

MagicMarker wrote: »

He didn't get a touch on it.

Obertan for Giggs please.

The angle I saw it from suggested he touched it. I might be wrong though.

OPENROAD

Hoki wrote: »

Wow what a cheesy cheesy Ray Houghton ad for The Star just there

Still going on about that Goal also.

besty

Hopefully we'll be able to settle a bit now and be more clinical in the second half. Rooney's been very poor, Giggs wasteful. Thank god we have Fletcher back in midfield - invaluable energy.

I'll stick my neck out and say we'll win 3-0.

nullzero

Ush1 wrote: »

What are you on about? He simply said it was a bookable offence, which it is. End of.

Digging up newspaper stories from years back to prove something no one is arguing against seemed odd to me.
Clapping the ref = bad. No argument.

eagle eye

I'm fed up with the Premier League, time to move on to another league where you get fair refereeing.
Its just disgraceful, Wes Brown should be on a yellow for persisting fouling, not to mention the penalty that was not given. And nothing happened over the way Hunt was taken out either. On the other side, Rooney got a free just outide the box for nothing, Rafael handles the ball and gets a free kick, Berbatov doesn't get blown up for a high challenge with his foot.

Every game involving a big four side is the same.

Feeky Magee

Hopefully this can kick-start something for Wayne, because he's been pretty terrible for the last dozen games. Think Rafael's been excellent, as has Vidic. Everyone esle has been a bit rubbish, to be frank.

But a lead is a lead.

Headshot

nullzero wrote: »

The angle I saw it from suggested he touched it. I might be wrong though.

no he didnt

Ush1

nullzero wrote: »

Digging up newspaper stories from years back to prove something no one is arguing against seemed odd to me.
Clapping the ref = bad. No argument.

Re-read the thread, someone was arguing against it.

Feeky Magee

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm fed up with the Premier League, time to move on to another league where you get fair refereeing.
Its just disgraceful, Wes Brown should be on a yellow for persisting fouling, not to mention the penalty that was not given. And nothing happened over the way Hunt was taken out either. On the other side, Rooney got a free just outide the box for nothing, Rafael handles the ball and gets a free kick, Berbatov doesn't get blown up for a high challenge with his foot.

Every game involving a big four side is the same.

Bye now. Shut the door behind you, there's a good lad.

nullzero

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm fed up with the Premier League, time to move on to another league where you get fair refereeing.
Its just disgraceful, Wes Brown should be on a yellow for persisting fouling, not to mention the penalty that was not given. And nothing happened over the way Hunt was taken out either. On the other side, Rooney got a free just outide the box for nothing, Rafael handles the ball and gets a free kick, Berbatov doesn't get blown up for a high challenge with his foot.

Every game involving a big four side is the same.

I think it's evident in all Premier League games not just those involving the top four.
The refereeing is terrible most of the time.

MagicMarker

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm fed up with the Premier League, time to move on to another league where you get fair refereeing.
Its just disgraceful, Wes Brown should be on a yellow for persisting fouling, not to mention the penalty that was not given. And nothing happened over the way Hunt was taken out either. On the other side, Rooney got a free just outide the box for nothing, Rafael handles the ball and gets a free kick, Berbatov doesn't get blown up for a high challenge with his foot.

Every game involving a big four side is the same.

Don't forget to close the door behind you.

*edit* Damn you feeky!!

SlickRic

Feeky Magee wrote: »

Bye now. Shut the door behind you, there's a good lad.

God forbid someone come on here with a different viewpoint.

That_Guy

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm fed up with the Premier League, time to move on to another league where you get fair refereeing.
Its just disgraceful, Wes Brown should be on a yellow for persisting fouling, not to mention the penalty that was not given. And nothing happened over the way Hunt was taken out either. On the other side, Rooney got a free just outide the box for nothing, Rafael handles the ball and gets a free kick, Berbatov doesn't get blown up for a high challenge with his foot.

Every game involving a big four side is the same.

It's just a lack of continuity really.

anplaya

its actually a good game for a neutral to watch,uniteds passing at times has been shocking though,especially giggs.who gave away the ball for hulls break?the one that hunt squandered?berbatov?

redout

Des wrote: »

OK, so since Beckham was playing there are two incidents of players getting booked for clapping.

It' not in the rules. Football doesn't have "rules", it has Laws, which are interpreted by the judges, the refs.

There is no black and white.

6: could be interpreted as such by some referee's.

Sending Off Offences

A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off and shown the red card if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
1. is guilty of serious foul play
2. is guilty of violent conduct
3. spits at an opponent or any other person
4. denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity, by deliberately
handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
5. denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s
goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick
6. uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
7. receives a second caution in the same match
A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off must leave the vicinity of the field

of play and the technical area.

Source: The FA

Rules of The Association

and Laws of the Game

eagle eye

Feeky Magee wrote: »

Bye now. Shut the door behind you, there's a good lad.

Clearly you didn't read my post right, I didn't say I was leaving the soccer forum. I said its time to move on to watching a different league where refereeing is done fairly.

nullzero

Ush1 wrote: »

Re-read the thread, someone was arguing against it.

I never said they weren't.
I just commented that there is no real argument against it.
It's a simple thing, clapping the ref is a no no, if you do it expect to be punished.
Also as I mentioned earlier from what I saw at the time I didn't see Vidic clap the ref, I did see him throw his arms up at the ref looking for a free kick, I didn't see the supposed clapping.

Xavi6

nullzero wrote: »

I never said they weren't.
I just commented that there is no real argument against it.
It's a simple thing, clapping the ref is a no no, if you do it expect to be punished.
Also as I mentioned earlier from what I saw at the time I didn't see Vidic clap the ref, I did see him throw his arms up at the ref looking for a free kick, I didn't see the supposed clapping.

It was after a foul on Fagan towards the left corner of the box, just about a minute before Evra was booked.

I'm watching Fox Soccer USA coverage and Mark Bright commented on it straight away.

Le King

This is the Hull Vs Manchester United thread.

Other talk goes elsewhere. Leave this thread for those of us who want to talk about the match. Thanks.

nullzero

Xavi6 wrote: »

It was after a foul on Fagan towards the left corner of the box, just about a minute before Evra was booked.

I'm watching Fox Soccer USA coverage and Mark Bright commented on it straight away.

I'm watching a different feed, it wasn't shown or commented on. I'll have to take your word on it.

The Muppet

SlickRic wrote: »

God forbid someone come on here with a different viewpoint.

Did Rooney get the free on the edge of the box for nothing? Do you think the Ref was at fault for not giving the Brown peno?

monkey9

Osu wrote: »

This is the Hull Vs Manchester United thread.

Other talk goes elsewhere. Leave this thread for those of us who want to talk about the match. Thanks.

Everything i've read here so far is based on the match.

Ush1

The Muppet wrote: »

Did Rooney get the free on the edge of the box for nothing? Do you think the Ref was at fault for not giving the Brown peno?

Who elses fault could it be?

SlickRic

The Muppet wrote: »

Did Rooney get the free on the edge of the box for nothing? Do you think the Ref was at fault for not giving the Brown peno?

did i say i agreed with eagle eye?

he was told to get out of the thread for expressing a different viewpoint, which is what i was commenting on.

ragg

nullzero wrote: »

I think it's evident in all Premier League games not just those involving the top four.
The refereeing is terrible most of the time.

Top 4 is far worse imo - refs are just afraid to give the decisions against them in case its wrong and one of the managers go radio rental on them in the press.

Ush1

Constant fouling by Brown.:rolleyes:

_blank_

Osu wrote: »

This is the Hull Vs Manchester United thread.

Other talk goes elsewhere. Leave this thread for those of us who want to talk about the match. Thanks.

Thanks Mod:rolleyes:

Feeky Magee

SlickRic wrote: »

God forbid someone come on here with a different viewpoint.

When this "viewpoint" is so utterly selective then yes, of course someone is going to call it up. The penalty was a bloody hard call to make, I and I would hasten to guess many others, thought it was a great tackle on first viewing, took three replays to establish it was a foul. Other decisions have gone 50/50, what eagle eye has done is pick out a few instances where decisions have gone for us.

What about Carrick being fouled in the run-up to Hunt's chance? What about Myhill tripping Berbatov after his save from Rafael?

eagle eye wrote: »

Clearly you didn't read my post right, I didn't say I was leaving the soccer forum. I said its time to move on to watching a different league where refereeing is done fairly.

I preusme you won't be watching the second half then? Referees tend to favour the big teams in every league across every sport. So good luck finding another league.

Hank Scorpio

lol at berbatov, fergie admit you made a mistake and sell him!

Nemanja91

Ih fagan doesn't end this game with at least a yellow it will be an injustice.

MagicMarker

nuxxx wrote: »

lol at berbatov, fergie admit you made a mistake and sell him!

The Muppet

SlickRic wrote: »

did i say i agreed with eagle eye?

he was told to get out of the thread for expressing a different viewpoint, which is what i was commenting on.

Who told him to get out? He is clearly wrong on the two incidents, makes him appear bitter which may go some way in explaining the replies he got , no?

nullzero

ragg wrote: »

Top 4 is far worse imo - refs are just afraid to give the decisions against them in case its wrong and one of the managers go radio rental on them in the press.

There are stpud decisions in games involving smaller clubs too, people just dont pay as much attention to them, that's the real difference.

ragg

altidore is quality.. Really has all the pieces of the puzzel, just needs to put them together

Hank Scorpio

MagicMarker wrote: »

He just flicked a ball up, and didnt bother to get on it again, just bowed his head and let the defender run off with it. That type of play really frustrates me, possibly more than others :mad:

mike65

The Stroller must be the most frustrating player to manage.