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Dublin 53 Degrees North, Most northly point on the planet not to get any snow!

  • 27-12-2009 11:13am
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    Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭


    Dublin is aprox 53 degrees north and would appear to be the least snowly place for simular places on the planet at this latatude. While I am aware places in Canada would get a lot of snow, similar places at the same latutide in Europe would get alot more snow at certain times of the year.

    Is Dublin really in a "Snow Shadow"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Location Location Location................

    Eh gulf stream,,,,surrounded by warm water,

    most westerly point in europe etc etc etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Now if we could only get rid of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    Do the islands of the west of British Columbia in Canada at the same latitude as us get more snow than us with the whole Pacific to their west? (Although seeing as how they have the whole of Canada to their east, maybe they do.)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,951 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I would even argue places on the same latitude in Ireland see more snow than Dublin. And as a whole despite the gulf steam to our west, the west of Ireland generally see's more snow than the east even tho were a few 100km further away from the gulf steam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Yes they do. Very heavy snow there; ( I have people there)
    Mobhi1 wrote: »
    Do the islands of the west of British Columbia in Canada at the same latitude as us get more snow than us with the whole Pacific to their west? (Although seeing as how they have the whole of Canada to their east, maybe they do.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    The Atlantic is not the problem for us getting snow, the problem is the Celtic Sea.

    When a rain band from the west comes towards us, it draws up a southerly wind for some time ahead of the front.

    In the UK, there is France to their south which keeps the upper air cold, making it much more likely for snow, especially when France itself is cold.

    Ireland's own landmass kept it cold enough over NI for snow on Christmas day. If we had another island to our south of similar size we'd have much more snow events.

    Anyone for land reclaimation!!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    it seems to me while the west may get more snow overall, the east tends to get what i would call the epic events.

    lucky feckers :mad :;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭IMBACKLATER


    why do so many on here suffer from dublincentric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    why do so many on here suffer from dublincentric.

    Because lots of people live in Dublin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    why do so many on here suffer from dublincentric.



    because the majority of forum users who love snow are from the east.anyway tis only natural you want snow in your own area and that often times means at the expense of others- unless we get a polar low whereby nearly everyone in the country wins.. for instance will Gonzo, Duiske, and wibber care if i don't see any snow this week. i think not and why should they really.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Every other part of Ireland appears to get more snow in particular the west and south


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭dloob


    I'd say Galway city gets less snow.
    The Beasterly does nothing for Galway.
    Remember last february when Dublin had snow and traffic chaos in the easterly?
    Galway had cold blue skies not a single flake.
    Galway Bay acts as a very effective snow shield, in a northerly it's too far from the sligo coast, we just can't win.
    Maybe tuesday or wednesday eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    dloob wrote: »
    I'd say Galway city gets less snow.
    The Beasterly does nothing for Galway.
    Remember last february when Dublin had snow and traffic chaos in the easterly?
    Galway had cold blue skies not a single flake.
    Galway Bay acts as a very effective snow shield, in a northerly it's too far from the sligo coast, we just can't win.
    Maybe tuesday or wednesday eh?

    Fingers crossed that we'll see something out of this. Just frost & freezing rain so far :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    I think we should sabotage the gulf stream. Let's all 4,000,000 of us get up to labrador with blowtorches and solve the snowless problem once and for all :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Wibbler


    for instance will Gonzo, Duiske, and wibber care if i don't see any snow this week. i think not and why should they really.

    It would give me a warm fuzzy feeling if you got snow this week Nacho *






    * but only if I also get some :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,502 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    alentejo wrote: »
    Every other part of Ireland appears to get more snow in particular the west and south
    :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    redsunset wrote: »
    Location Location Location................

    Eh gulf stream,,,,surrounded by warm water,

    most westerly point in europe etc etc etc

    Yes, I realise this is a year old...

    Dublin, well Ireland, is not the most westerly point in Europe. Portugal is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    testicle wrote: »
    Yes, I realise this is a year old...

    Dublin, well Ireland, is not the most westerly point in Europe. Portugal is.


    Well smartarse we are talking about 53 degrees north,anyway ZOMBIE THREAD lock it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭_whiskers


    redsunset wrote: »
    Well smartarse we are talking about 53 degrees north,anyway ZOMBIE THREAD lock it

    Why because you're wrong? He didn't resurrect it anyway :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    _whiskers wrote: »
    Why because you're wrong? He didn't resurrect it anyway :rolleyes:
    Wrong???
    Learn Longtitude and latitude before you answer like that.I know Portugal sticks out further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭_whiskers


    redsunset wrote: »
    most westerly point in europe etc etc etc

    Wrong, and if you know Portugal sticks out further why say it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    _whiskers wrote: »
    Wrong, and if you know Portugal sticks out further why say it?

    I see im misunderstood.I should have wrote it more exact in the original.

    The op was all about 53 degrees north so compared to other european countries Dublin is further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭_whiskers


    redsunset wrote: »
    I see im misunderstood.I should have wrote it more exact in the original.

    The op was all about 53 degrees north so compared to other european countries Dublin is further.

    Sorry if you thought I was attacking, I just felt you were a bit rude calling him smart arse when he was just making a point.:)I see where your getting at now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    _whiskers wrote: »
    Sorry if you thought I was attacking, I just felt you were a bit rude calling him smart arse when he was just making a point.:)I see where your getting at now.


    I was in no way being rude and my apologies if it was perceived that way.
    Thats the trouble with reading text on a page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭_whiskers


    redsunset wrote: »
    I was in no way being rude and my apologies if it was perceived that way.
    Thats the trouble with reading text on a page.

    Too true :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7519614.stm
    At 77 Degrees South there are the McMurdo Dry Valleys of Antarctica where there has been no snow for the last 13.8 million years



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Dry_Valleys
    The unique conditions in the Dry Valleys are caused, in part, by katabatic winds: these occur when cold, dense air is pulled downhill by the force of gravity. The winds can reach speeds of 320 km/h (200 mph), evaporating all water, ice and snow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭ciaran67


    Mobhi1 wrote: »
    Do the islands of the west of British Columbia in Canada at the same latitude as us get more snow than us with the whole Pacific to their west? (Although seeing as how they have the whole of Canada to their east, maybe they do.)


    Are you talking about Vancouver Island? If so, no not really. They get whats called the Pineapple Express from Hawaii. It just rains like cats and dogs all winter. Mount Washington on the Island get a fair bit of snow. The east gets Nor'easterners. Storms come into western Canada, head south into the States and sweep up to the NE again picking up all the cold air on the way usually dumping a hell of a lot of snow on the way.

    And Grace, they're lying to you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,553 ✭✭✭weisses


    alentejo wrote: »
    Dublin is aprox 53 degrees north and would appear to be the least snowly place for simular places on the planet at this latatude. While I am aware places in Canada would get a lot of snow, similar places at the same latutide in Europe would get alot more snow at certain times of the year.

    Is Dublin really in a "Snow Shadow"



    pfffft Dublin and surroundings is winter/snow heaven compared to where i live... Haven't seen a single snowflake down here so far this year :D and i doubt there is gonna be any snow in the next cold/snow snap .... thank god


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    At our latitude places to the east of a large ocean get milder weather than those to the west. This effect is greater than that from the Gulf Stream. Though Vancouver lies near a warm current from Japan.


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