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China Blames Online Games for Drugs, Murder, Teen Pregnancy
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27-12-2009 1:33pm#1
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Sorry to say, There is something in it. All tho not do the extent they are saying. But playing Online Games or even watching Alot of TV/Movies will do the same thing. It changes you.
Now this might come as a bit of a shock but the things posted in that article have been happening before online gaming was available.Why do you think. The world has changed so much in the last 40 year.
Technology has/is evolving/progressing most likely.Even 20 year ago. You could walk around at night, Leave your house/car unlocked and not fear that something would happen.
Can't say that's true.This all happened in stages.
I wonder what stage we are at now ? Surely not endgame.
Bit by bit every year people got a little bit more Violent.
This makes no sense whatsoever.Kids started to have Sex at a younger age.
You can verify this somehow ?And the price of a life is so cheap. In some walks of life. If you don't kill someone. There is something wrong with you and your not part of the click.
I think you watch too much television.
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Sorry to say, There is something in it. All tho not do the extent they are saying. But playing Online Games or even watching Alot of TV/Movies will do the same thing. It changes you.
Why do you think. The world has changed so much in the last 40 year.
Even 20 year ago. You could walk around at night, Leave your house/car unlocked and not fear that something would happen.
Now a days. There are some places the garda cant even go in to.
This all happened in stages. Bit by bit every year people got a little bit more Violent. Kids started to have Sex at a younger age. And the price of a life is so cheap. In some walks of life. If you don't kill someone. There is something wrong with you and your not part of the click.
The problem is, We are all to blame.
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Joseph Some Sausage wrote: »I want to introduce you to FACT, he eats your opinion for breakfast...
What you need to do before you enter a debate on such a topic is educate yourself... even a little. Go read some books on how the mind works, behavioural science and perception etc etc. You may have a better understanding of the situation. To suggest, what you just did, implies that you do not have a clue about what you are talking about.
Nowhere in my post did I mention that if you play computer games you will kill people. You could have the best parents in the world but be exposed to a lot of violence from an early age through other mediums, this will influence you, depending on the nature of the games, films, your willpower, mental stability etc etc. Killing somebody and then blaming a game doesn't make you insane. Not necessarily. You could be quite sane, but you may lack the ability to differentiate between the virtual world and the real world.
There are reasons why things are sensored, why there is an age limit on games and films. Young minds should not be exposed to such things, it will effect you in one way or another, small or large. Saying there is no link between films/games and violence is quite illogical. There is a pretty strong link. Similar to being exposed to violence in the real world.
While opinions don't matter a sweet fúck, i'll let you hear mine. I think China is over exaggerating, I don't like the PC brigade too much, but sometimes they are needed. Over a certain age, when your brain is more developed, you should be able to chose for yourself what you watch and play. Until then, you should have limited exposure to excessive violence and gore...
Oh i am quite educated, and my post did cover your retort. Infants shouldn't be exposed to violence during the oedipal phase (between the ages of 3-5), to allow your child to do so would be deemed by me (and many others) to be bad parenting. If your buying your 5 year old grand theft auto your failing at parenting and most likely failing in all other departments, teaching right and wrong, manners etc.
But the Chineses answer to resolving bad parenting is to ban a fun game for ALL ages, which is ignorant and unnecessary.
My post didnt state that all ages should be exposed to any game they choose, keep the age limits in check by all means, there are other games for them to play in the mean time, but to ban all ages is just too extreme.
Heck Super mario and Sonic kept me going till my early teens
EDIT: In retrospect i do realise my post was a bit weak, when i said young age i ment from age 8-10 and up. Apologies!0 -
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Karl Hungus wrote: »Yeah, just like people playing Battlefield 2 have post traumatic stress disorder like real soldiers who witnessed violence in the real world. It's a pretty strong link, right? :rolleyes:
That's the dumbest shít I have ever heard...Saying that experiencing violence in games or films is in any way similar to experiencing it in real life is bordering on the offensive, it's wooly-headed nonsense, and the kind of sensationalist hyperbole The Sun would publish.
I don't see how difficult this is for you to understand, it's really quite simple... for most. Yet you seem to twist and turn my words. I said an exposure to such violence will influence your mind in one form or another, in a small or significant way. Key word here is INFLUENCE. Let me eplain this exceptionally complex word for you a little further:
"The power to affect, control or manipulate something or someone; the ability to change the development of fluctuating things such as conduct, thoughts or decisions; An action exerted by a person or thing with such power on another to cause change"People who have experienced violence in real life will frequently suffer from shock, and often much more serious psychological disorders and traumatized. The very fact that you can liken the real trauma that people who've witnessed violence in real life can suffer to playing a video game is shocking, it's by far the most insensitive and downright foolish things you've written.
Influence, not experience. They are differant... It seems you have a hard time differentiating between the two. I never once refered to the traumatic effects that violence has on people, in games or in real life. I spoke about the influence that high levels of exposure to gore and violence in games has on people and how it can leave them less sensitive to such violence in real life.
No matter what it is, the more you are exposed to something at a young age, the more "normal" you percieve it to be. Children on nudest beaches with their parents, they grow up more open about sex and it's less of a taboo subject. Children who grow up in a devout religious family will be the same. It's soooo simple to see, how you cannot is beyond me. It's quite obvious you know nothing about conditioning and how the human mind works...The utter nonsense about violence in fiction having such an effect on people is clearly disproved by the amount of people who do watch violent films or play violent games, and are not suffering from trauma or shock. But hey, lets not let common sense get in the way of moral indignation, shall we?
That's your argument? That lots of people play games? Are you for real? Again, understand the true meaning of influence. I think my argument is a little too complex for your mind to understand. If you cannot make the connection and cannot understand what I am talking about after the 3rd or 4th post, then stop trying... seriously, you are getting somewhat confused it seems, but hey, lets not let the ability to read properly get in the way of a good auld internet discussion, shall we?Oh i am quite educated, and my post did cover your retort. Infants shouldn't be exposed to violence during the oedipal phase (between the ages of 3-5), to allow your child to do so would be deemed by me (and many others) to be bad parenting. If your buying your 5 year old grand theft auto your failing at parenting and most likely failing in all other departments, teaching right and wrong, manners etc.
The problem is, children are not bought these games, they are exposed to them from other mediums. The internet is a library of gore, violence and porn. It doesn't make you a bad parent if your child was exposed to something when he is not in your care. If you buy your children these kind of games, you need a good kick up the arse.But the Chineses answer to resolving bad parenting is to ban a fun game for ALL ages, which is ignorant and unnecessary.
While the most dangerous age to be exposed to such violence is not adulthood, it can still influence you. What makes it easier is the level of quality of modern games. The physics engines and graphics are amazing. Banning the whole country from playing these games would seem to be a bit excessive from our point of view.My post didnt state that all ages should be exposed to any game they choose, keep the age limits in check by all means, there are other games for them to play in the mean time, but to ban all ages is just too extreme.
Yea it is a little extreme. Then again, it depends on the level of violence.Heck Super mario and Sonic kept me going till my early teens
Me too :PEDIT: In retrospect i do realise my post was a bit weak, when i said young age i ment from age 8-10 and up. Apologies!
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