My Neighbours transit vans arent quite right!

Muckie

Only noticed the other day, funny how they both don't
have license plates on the front!



Good for toll bridges i guess!

Fizman

Talented parking that!

The-Game

Both of them have their plates in the front window sitting on the dash.

Muckie

I noticed one van with its plate in the window, but the next day a saw
the owner of the other van in the process of taking his front plate off!
Maybe we should all try it, whats the worsed that could happen!

Tipsy Mac

Free tolling perhaps.

v300

It annoys the cops but this is a perfectively legal way to show your numberplate.

S-Murph

v300 wrote: »

It annoys the cops but this is a perfectively legal way to show your numberplate.

Really?, even for cars?

I thought only temorary licence plates (the green ones) were allowed to be displayed like that.

v300

S-Murph wrote: »

Really?, even for cars?

I thought only temorary licence plates (the green ones) were allowed to be displayed like that.

Please read the relevant statute and you will see for yourself.

Rulmeq

v300 wrote: »

Please read the relevant statute and you will see for yourself.

Care to post a link, all I can find is this, where it says the plates must be affixed to front and rear. That suggests to me that it must be a permanent fixture.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/vehicle-standards/vehicle_registration_numbers

v300

"Vehicle registration plates must be affixed to the front and back of your vehicle and clearly visible at all times."

The front does not mean the bumper.

At Wicklow District Court on 10/06/09 in the case of the DPP on suite of Garda Vincent McCarthy vs Greg Davis, the Judge ruled that having a number plate displayed in your windscreen was conforming to current legislation.

niceirishfella

S-Murph wrote: »

Really?, even for cars?

I thought only temorary licence plates (the green ones) were allowed to be displayed like that.

You mean Trade Plates.:)

The-Game

v300 wrote: »

"Vehicle registration plates must be affixed to the front and back of your vehicle and clearly visible at all times."

The front does not mean the bumper.

At Wicklow District Court on 10/06/09 in the case of the DPP on suite of Garda Vincent McCarthy vs Greg Davis, the Judge ruled that having a number plate displayed in your windscreen was conforming to current legislation.

Nice job providing a reference and all, I would still imagine you would get pulled and questioned by the Gardai depending on what your driving perhaps?

v300

The-Game wrote: »

, I would still imagine you would get pulled and questioned by the Gardai depending on what your driving perhaps?

Yes, and they issue summons too about this, but no one I have advised
has gotton convicted of this "offence".

Placing the plate in a clearly visable location on the
front windscreen is perfectively legal.

Ask the owner of the two transits in the OP !!

PLIIM

And just throw a newspaper over the plate on the dash when you are going over the toll bridge. Genius.

v300

PLIIM wrote: »

And just throw a newspaper over the plate on the dash when you are going over the toll bridge. Genius.

Cough, ahem, that would be the illegal bit Sir !

timmywex

v300 wrote: »

It annoys the cops but this is a perfectively legal way to show your numberplate.

It would be deemed illegal because its too hard to read!

PLIIM

v300 wrote: »

Cough, ahem, that would be the illegal bit Sir !

Its only illegal if you get caught. If they cant read the number they cant catch you

v300

timmywex wrote: »

It would be deemed illegal because its too hard to read!

The Judge in Wicklow District Court on the 10/06/09 would disagree.

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http://www.midnightclub.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=41881

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v300

PLIIM wrote: »

Its only illegal if you get caught. If they cant read the number they cant catch you

That certainly sounds logical !!

unkel

PLIIM wrote: »

Its only illegal if you get caught

Quoted - the stupidest post of the year

Rulmeq

v300 wrote: »

"Vehicle registration plates must be affixed to the front and back of your vehicle and clearly visible at all times."

The front does not mean the bumper.

At Wicklow District Court on 10/06/09 in the case of the DPP on suite of Garda Vincent McCarthy vs Greg Davis, the Judge ruled that having a number plate displayed in your windscreen was conforming to current legislation.

Fair enough, but just be aware that the district court isn't a court of record, so it will all depend on the mood of the judge on the day.

cormie

Fizman wrote: »

Talented parking that!

Parking job looks good on the blue and still straight on the wine, I suspect there was an inbetweener already there before the wine one was parked :P Just as long as there's enough room for a pram/wheelchair to fit between the back of the wine one and the wall

ironclaw

PLIIM wrote: »

And just throw a newspaper over the plate on the dash when you are going over the toll bridge. Genius.

I don't think it would matter as they could just read the rear plate I presume? I think they put in cameras facing both ways to stop people say tail gating a truck to avoid being tolled.

Still, I can't believe people would defend someone displaying a plate in that manner. Its stupid and dangerous.

Gary ITR

ironclaw wrote: »

Still, I can't believe people would defend someone displaying a plate in that manner. Its stupid and dangerous.

Now I'm not defending it or anything, but how on earth is it dangerous?

Blazer

Onkle wrote: »

Now I'm not defending it or anything, but how on earth is it dangerous?

well ...that number plate is not tied down and could fly around the front causing an injury to something....
imagine you had to break hard and the number plate hit the windscreen and killed some poor bug on it minding his own business

PLIIM

unkel wrote: »

Quoted - the stupidest post of the year

arrest me,

ironclaw

Berkut wrote: »

well ...that number plate is not tied down and could fly around the front causing an injury to something....
imagine you had to break hard and the number plate hit the windscreen and killed some poor bug on it minding his own business

Pretty much sums it up. At 120 km/ph a metal plate (most of which have sharp enough edges) is a danger to the driver / passenger etc.

In addition, if someone was acting the **** behind you and you couldn't read the plate, (Because they are trying to avoid a toll etc) some chance you'd have of ringing it in.

And finally, why? Why on earth would you want your plate on your dashboard?

Gary ITR

ironclaw wrote: »

Pretty much sums it up. At 120 km/ph a metal plate (most of which have sharp enough edges) is a danger to the driver / passenger etc.

In addition, if someone was acting the **** behind you and you couldn't read the plate, (Because they are trying to avoid a toll etc) some chance you'd have of ringing it in.

And finally, why? Why on earth would you want your plate on your dashboard?

Ah would you come on, seriously. Do you have CD cases in your car? Books? Mobile phone somewhere? Anything not strapped down?

ironclaw

Onkle wrote: »

Ah would you come on, seriously. Do you have CD cases in your car? Books? Mobile phone somewhere? Anything not strapped down?

Not sitting on my dashboard at almost head height. Or in the case of a transit, on an almost perfect launch angle.

Temporary plates are fine but permanently?

I put it to anyone to give me a valid reason to have your number plate sitting on your dash, no tied down etc. Just sitting there as opposed to being securely and safely situated on your front bumper.

Muckie

Don't know if this has any bearing, but the lads that drive these vans,
are involved in the "clothes for orphanges, russia, help the needy etc..).
Seen them leaving very early in the morning 4.30am.
Coming to a Housing estate near you soon.
They also slab on magnetic signs on the side of the vans.
(weird how they don't have them on the whole time).:rolleyes:

mullingar

Muckie wrote: »

Don't know if this has any bearing, but the lads that drive these vans,
are involved in the "clothes for orphanges, russia, help the needy etc..).
Seen them leaving very early in the morning 4.30am.
Coming to a Housing estate near you soon.
They also slab on magnetic signs on the side of the vans.
(weird how they don't have them on the whole time).:rolleyes:

poxy legal scams.

These so called charities make my blood boil. Anybody watch the documentary on this months ago on RTE? Pure scam. Phone numbers that don't exist etc.

Just give your stuff to SVP.

bonzodog2

ironclaw wrote: »

Not sitting on my dashboard at almost head height. Or in the case of a transit, on an almost perfect launch angle.

Temporary plates are fine but permanently?

I put it to anyone to give me a valid reason to have your number plate sitting on your dash, no tied down etc. Just sitting there as opposed to being securely and safely situated on your front bumper.

Surely, in order to get 'launched', the vehicle would have to be travelling backwards at speed, then come to a sudden stop, as in reversing into something solid at speed ?

The-Game

bonzodog2 wrote: »

Surely, in order to get 'launched', the vehicle would have to be travelling backwards at speed, then come to a sudden stop, as in reversing into something solid at speed ?

Was about to say the same, if that's the way someone drives a flying number plate should be the least of their worries.

colm_mcm

Isn't there a requirement that the plates be mounted vertically?

Marlow

PLIIM wrote: »

And just throw a newspaper over the plate on the dash when you are going over the toll bridge. Genius.

You don't have to. The M50 tollbridge just doesn't get them there and yes, it only goes for the front numberplate. Mine fell off at some point so I had it in the windscreen for about 2-3 weeks. Crossed M50 3 or 4 times and never got a bill.

I reckon that's exactly what these boys are after.

/M

Blakkenamber

"Vehicle registration plates must be affixed to the front and back of your vehicle and clearly visible at all times."
Does the term "affixed" not mean some sort of mechanical fitting is required, simply placing the plates in the window may not be considered "affixed" but then again suction pads may get over this?

The-Game

Blakkenamber wrote: »

"Vehicle registration plates must be affixed to the front and back of your vehicle and clearly visible at all times."
Does the term "affixed" not mean some sort of mechanical fitting is required, simply placing the plates in the window may not be considered "affixed" but then again suction pads may get over this?

It may technically be affixing the plate but as noted in earlier posts the Gardai can stop and question you over this and if it goes to court its at the judges discretion seemingly, up to you to decide if its worth the risk!

cascade35

Go out and get 2 plates made up and fit them to the vans,

v300

cascade35 wrote: »

Go out and get 2 plates made up and fit them to the vans,

He has them fitted to the windscreen part of the van.

cascade35

v300 wrote: »

He has them fitted to the windscreen part of the van.

He would be a bit confused if he came out to see new plates fitted to front bumpers of both vans, if he does not notice them and is going through the M50 toll then he will soon recieve the fines in the post.

v300

cascade35 wrote: »

He would be a bit confused if he came out to see new plates fitted to front bumpers of both vans, if he does not notice them and is going through the M50 toll then he will soon recieve the fines in the post.

Ha ha ha, ya divil cascade ! Very funny !

Marlow

Number plate stickers should do

/M

mullingar

Anybody heard of these plastic covers for the reg plates?

https://www.phantomplate.com/shop/proddetail.asp?prod=E01

it seems to be polarized to obstruct Reading the plate at an angle other than head-on.

Marlow

mullingar wrote: »

it seems to be polarized to obstruct Reading the plate at an angle other than head-on.

That might be borderline illegal. Same as spraying your place in hairspray or other funny stuff people come up with.

/M

TheColl

mullingar wrote: »

Anybody heard of these plastic covers for the reg plates?

https://www.phantomplate.com/shop/proddetail.asp?prod=E01

it seems to be polarized to obstruct Reading the plate at an angle other than head-on.

if people are going to use motorways, just pay the toll!

ironclaw

mullingar wrote: »

Anybody heard of these plastic covers for the reg plates?

https://www.phantomplate.com/shop/proddetail.asp?prod=E01

it seems to be polarized to obstruct Reading the plate at an angle other than head-on.

Hit and miss apparently. Plus they are very obvious in real life.

galwaytt

colm_mcm wrote: »

Isn't there a requirement that the plates be mounted vertically?

Nope, MX-5 and Jag E-Type owner's of the world unite !!

Blakkenamber wrote: »

"Does the term "affixed" not mean some sort of mechanical fitting is required,

Define 'mechanical'. Mine is held on by double-sided tape.

Marlow

galwaytt wrote: »

Define 'mechanical'. Mine is held on by double-sided tape.

I'd second that. I've seen a lot of cars, where the number plates just are fit with strong double-sided tape and it'll last for years.

No screws needed.

/M

Midnight_EG

mullingar wrote: »

Anybody heard of these plastic covers for the reg plates?

https://www.phantomplate.com/shop/proddetail.asp?prod=E01

it seems to be polarized to obstruct Reading the plate at an angle other than head-on.

I can well imagine some people in car parks wondering where their cars have gotten to when they can't read their regplate