RTE programme about the flood tonight

mike65 · 28-12-2009 8:33pm #1

The Night Cork Nearly Drowned RTE One 8:25pm-9:00pm

Documentary charting the events of November 20 when the people of Cork dealt with the aftermath of overnight flooding throughout the city. Including previously unseen footage from the people affected by the freak weather - estimated to have left the council with a bill of more than 30million euros

rebel girl 15 · 28-12-2009 10:13pm

Its was very well put together

AddictedToYou · 28-12-2009 10:22pm

Cheers for posting that. Wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't for your post.

Not bad at all.

deRanged · 28-12-2009 10:26pm

there were some interesting new shots and the timeline was great. I've not seen a timeline like that yet.

I know it was a short programme, but it would have been nice to see some details of the flood response. Perhaps some investigation into the 2 weeks it took to restore water in places, the time buildings and businesses were out of commission.

I don't think I'd be happy with it if I was in the ESB though, I don't think they came out of it looking good.

Dudess · 29-12-2009 2:46am

Good show - pity they didn't show before and after pics of the worst affected places (e.g. Carrigrohane).

TheDriver · 29-12-2009 3:37am

Very good show though think they let some residents blame the ESB when it seems its the council were at fault for not listening. One wonders when the real blame game will start.....

Dan Dare · 29-12-2009 10:50am

Missed it, but will try and watch it on RTE Player.

Sephiroth_dude · 29-12-2009 4:19pm

Crap I forgot to record this,oh well.

rebel girl 15 · 29-12-2009 4:24pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Crap I forgot to record this,oh well.

rte player should have it - I should have recorded it as well, my name is in the credits, first ever!

curly from cork · 29-12-2009 7:44pm

missed it ... it wasnt listed in the rte guide... great help having an rte guide
anyway just checked the rte player it s not there either, but maybe it takes a few days before it becomes available?

nightster1 · 29-12-2009 7:52pm

Bad management of ESB caused flood.Water should have been bled off gradually corresponding with low tides in the run up to the expected heavy rain.

themonboys · 29-12-2009 10:54pm

Dan Dare wrote: »

Missed it, but will try and watch it on RTE Player.

Me too, sounds interesting.

Sephiroth_dude · 30-12-2009 12:20am

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

rte player should have it - I should have recorded it as well, my name is in the credits, first ever!

Will check that out.

taram · 30-12-2009 12:54am

I wasn't in the city for the flooding and while I saw some of the pictures seeing all the places I know well flooding is seriously scary!

imme · 30-12-2009 12:58am

nightster1 wrote: »

Bad management of ESB caused flood.Water should have been bled off gradually corresponding with low tides in the run up to the expected heavy rain.

thanks Doctor, what's you're training in the area?

the programme was excellent.

Abelloid · 31-12-2009 12:20am

nightster1 wrote: »

Bad management of ESB caused flood.Water should have been bled off gradually corresponding with low tides in the run up to the expected heavy rain.

Yeah, ESB made too much rain.

tommmy1979 · 31-12-2009 2:54am

nightster1 wrote: »

Bad management of ESB caused flood.Water should have been bled off gradually corresponding with low tides in the run up to the expected heavy rain.

imme wrote: »

thanks Doctor, what's you're training in the area?

the programme was excellent.

JustinOval wrote: »

Yeah, ESB made too much rain.

look.. The Iniscarra damn has the capacity to prevent that level of flooding, but the inniscarra damn is operated by the ESB who are in the business of generating electricity. For generating electricty you want a full damn at all times, that is the ideal situation for them.. there's a direct conflict of interest.

In my opinion.. the iniscarra damn should be only for flood control and any power generated in doing so is a bonus. It's crap at generating power anyway, 20Megawatts... there are smallish windfarms down in west cork generating 40Megawatts!! At 20Megawatts i wonder how profitable the thing is anyway once you take into account operating costs and maintenace costs.

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maglite · 02-01-2010 1:39am

Anyone care to share their recorded version?

opus · 02-01-2010 1:24pm

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

rte player should have it - I should have recorded it as well, my name is in the credits, first ever!

Doesn't seem to be available on the player unfortunately.

02-01-2010 8:46pm

nightster1 wrote: »

Bad management of ESB caused flood.Water should have been bled off gradually corresponding with low tides in the run up to the expected heavy rain.

In fairness this is quite true, the heavy rain was forecast, the high tides that corresponded with the rain over those days were also known about. The dam should have had much lower levels in the days preceding the rain corresponding with the tides. It isn't rocket science. As said the ESB didn't come out of the program too well, no mystery why really.

center15 · 02-01-2010 8:49pm

RoverJames wrote: »

In fairness this is quite true, the heavy rain was forecast, the high tides that corresponded with the rain over those days were also known about. The dam should have had much lower levels in the days preceding the rain corresponding with the tides. It isn't rocket science. As said the ESB didn't come out of the program too well, no mystery why really.

The reason the dam didn't have lower levels was because they were searching for the missing UCC student down river and it it normal procedure to restrict water flow to lower the water level down stream.

02-01-2010 8:54pm

I am well aware of that, flooding a city and the lives endangered in doing so was not the intention obviously but things should have been weighed up. That poor chap who they were searching for, I am sure that he wouldn't have wanted the city flooded. There are homeless people literally freezing on the streets for the last couple of weeks, very little is being done for them yet the entire city is flooded due to a search for a body. After a day or so no one expected to find the chap alive in the river I am sure.

center15 · 02-01-2010 8:56pm

RoverJames wrote: »

I am well aware of that, flooding a city and the lives endangered in doing so was not the intention obviously but things should have been weighed up. That poor chap who they were searching for, I am sure that he wouldn't have wanted the city flooded. There are homeless people literally freezing on the streets for the last couple of weeks, very little is being done for them yet the entire city is flooded due to a search for a body. After a day or so no one expected to find the chap alive in the river I am sure.

I think the whole debate comes down to an ethical decision really although perhaps when the decision was made to reduce water flow the extend of the rain over the next few days wasn't known and by the time the realised it it would have been to late to release the water.

maglite · 02-01-2010 9:48pm

opus wrote: »

Doesn't seem to be available on the player unfortunately.

Was told it wont be, due to not having the rights or some such....

cadaliac · 02-01-2010 11:30pm

There is other things to consider when Cork floods. How about the farmers clearing ditches? Older non-cleared/trimmed ditches would have held lots of water. When the ditches are cleared or trimmed down (I assume to maximize acreage) there is less foliage to hold water.
How about the new buildings? All over the lee valley there are houses that would have concrete foundations (just like anywhere else) but this will also contribute to the lack of ground soakage in the Lee valley.
Hence the very quick flow of water into the Inniscarra dam.
Yes, there is blame for the ESB, but there are other things to consider too. It is new territory to the managers of the dam (ESB). The land was also saturated so badly that the heavy rain fall just flowed straight off the land and straight into the dam.

voyage · 13-01-2010 10:51pm

by the way this programme is now up on the RTÉ player - http://www.rte.ie/player/# for everyone who hasn't seen it yet.

It's available to view until Monday 18 January 2010.

rebel girl 15 · 13-01-2010 11:03pm

voyage wrote: »

by the way this programme is now up on the RTÉ player - http://www.rte.ie/player/# for everyone who hasn't seen it yet.

It's available to view until Monday 18 January 2010.

Brilliant - just have to figure out some way to save it now!

curly from cork · 14-01-2010 2:57pm

thanks for posting the fact that itis on the rte player now, i had checked originally but it was nt up then. now however i haved seen it ! so thanks for the reminder

@ rebel girl. if you firnd a way to save it please let me know as i would also like to save it,if possible.

munchkin_utd · 15-01-2010 4:07pm

Saw the programme and it was heart breaking to see all the people loose precious irreplacable belongings like wedding photos.

There was no mention of whether the dam was fuller than it would otherwise be because of a search for a body.
If that really true that they were holding water back? As far as I can figure it was never said officially.

AFC_1903 · 17-01-2010 12:06am

I can't find it on the RTE Player - possibly because I'm not in Ireland. If anyone could share it with me, it would be much appreciated.

MunsterCycling · 17-01-2010 10:35am

voyage wrote: »

by the way this programme is now up on the RTÉ player - http://www.rte.ie/player/# for everyone who hasn't seen it yet.

It's available to view until Monday 18 January 2010.

Direct link to the show:

http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1063689

RTE Player isn't available outside of Ireland hence you not being able to see it. Don't know of any method that allows you record from it though, if I find one I'll let you know.

RTE programme about the flood tonight

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