Cold Spell Discussion [Snow showers hitting east from 4pm] ( New Years Eve 2009 )

Mobhi1

NE Scotland which should be well inside the cold air is reporting more rain and sleet showers than snow this morning. Is this what we're getting next?:(

Much quieter on here this morning - people must be losing interest. Don't blame them - nothing seems to be happening as it should!:(

owenc

Mobhi1 wrote: »

NE Scotland which should be well inside the cold air is reporting more rain and sleet showers than snow this morning. Is this what we're getting next?:(

Much quieter on here this morning - people must be losing interest. Don't blame them - nothing seems to be happening as it should!:(

go here and you will see rain.. www.raintoday.co.uk and look up at ne scotland and you will be surprised:rolleyes:

Supercell

I'm getting on and off light hail showers here, I imagine these will get heavier as the day goes on until the wind moves northerly.

Su Campu

Supercell

Wow, quite a decent hail shower going, that little streamer is aimed directly here it seems.

Mobhi1

owenc wrote: »

go here and you will see rain.. www.raintoday.co.uk and look up at ne scotland and you will be surprised:rolleyes:

It's showing sleet for anywhere near the coast but anyway what it's showing is not necessarily what's happening - it's only what it would expect the precipitation to be based on current conditions.

Geezer1000

Zero snow here and zero sign of any. Hopefully it stays that way

Supercell

The showers here are exclusively hail at the moment, no snow or sleet or rain at all.

My front yard this morning..

same as yesterday here except the rain is showery and its warmer than at most points yesterday .
A useless zero dp.

If this is the artic floodgates open...well it's certainly brought the floods :rolleyes:

irish1967

Dare I say it. Quite a nice morning here. Feels relatively mild. Bluish sky. Hmmm. May venture out thus evening but the way this weather is going I could be snow bound or ice bound by then. We live in hope.

gally74

well i ost my internet with all the snow showers!

itsa nice dry morning down here, that north easterly really dried things up, much better day,

Mothman

I had momentary 50% covering...of hail
Temp drops to 4.7C, Dp rises to above zero
If nothing else it'll help cool down ground

Meanwhile M2 5.9C Dp+0.1C at 8am

snaps

arrived at work in connemara surrounded by all white mountains! air temp is rising, now 4.3c, warmest its been for over a week here! no sign of colder air, just warmer air. clear as well now

Mothman

4.2C Dp 0.5C

Just show that a heavy shower will drop temp quite a bit, but will raise Dp quite a bit as they aim to meet somewhere in the middle.

roryc1

Hello all,

I have a bad feeling about today, temps just not falling fast enough, it actually feels mild now

But I am really worried (For Dublin) that the winds will turn northerly before the Irish Sea has a chance to get going .
I really hope I am wrong

DOCARCH

3.2c DP -0.6c here now. Nice covering of snow to the tops only of 2 and 3 rock mountains.

moderate squally hail here

4/0

DOCARCH

roryc1 wrote: »

I have a bad feeling about today, temps just not falling fast enough, it actually feels mild now.

Dew points are (almost) everything, keep an eye on those. Dew point is -0.6c here atm - this is good (or at least a huge deal better than yesterday).

Mothman

The Irish sea is starting up with a vengeance
5mm hail
Was 5.3C Dp -1.0C
now 3.8C Dp+0.5C

We may well be in very good business later with 1-2C drop in temps during the day

roryc1

roryc1 wrote: »

Hello all,

I have a bad feeling about today, temps just not falling fast enough, it actually feels mild now

But I am really worried (For Dublin) that the winds will turn northerly before the Irish Sea has a chance to get going .
I really hope I am wrong

winds will slacken on tomorrow and veer n or nw but are likely to veer e or ne again by monday so don't worry.
There are also indications of a possible scandi high soon which would be bingo for the east [irish sea effect snow] as the continent is cooling rapidly and theres all that lovely very minus dewpoint air.

This set up is the epitome of a watched kettle

Mothman

Well yes, Dp rises quite a bit during showers.

Air temp will drop and Dp will rise and they attempt to meet towards the middle.

which matters in this transitional set up but it's academic if we get continental or scandi air.
who cares if dp's vary between -8c and - 10 c

Mothman

Deleted User wrote: »

which matters in this transitional set up but it's academic if we get continental or scandi air.
who cares if dp's vary between -8c and - 10 c

Probably mean no precipitation...

Anyway we'll deal with that prospect when it is here.
Meanwhile rain 3.4C Dp 0.8c

Su Campu

I reckon there'll be no snow until late this evening or tonight, and even then it will be al light affair , with a mere dusting at most at low level. Hail will be the order of the day. We need to wait until this afternoon for the temperatures at all levels to decrease.

Woke up this morning to no snow whatsoever. :rolleyes:

roryc1

Deleted User wrote: »

winds will slacken on tomorrow and veer n or nw but are likely to veer e or ne again by monday so don't worry.
There are also indications of a possible scandi high soon which would be bingo for the east [irish sea effect snow] as the continent is cooling rapidly and theres all that lovely very minus dewpoint air.

This set up is the epitome of a watched kettle

Thanks for puttung my mind at ease, I just hope that kettle is plugged in

Johnny1999

Morning All, no snow in Kilkenny. But according to the NRA the temp has dropped by more than a degree in an hour. I have no idea what this means, but i thought I would share it with you.

munsterlegend

just looking at the met eireann site forecast will temps really get as low as -8/9 tonight? any more unforeseen troughs appear overnight? i want a nationwide event - i know there is something on saturday but it won't spread too far south.

JFKIRELAND

Hail shower at 09.25 for 30 secs here in Dublin 5!!:mad:

Villain

Wet Snow in Carlow

Su Campu

Su Campu wrote: »

I reckon there'll be no snow until late this evening or tonight, and even then it will be al light affair , with a mere dusting at most at low level. Hail will be the order of the day. We need to wait until this afternoon for the temperatures at all levels to decrease.

Woke up this morning to no snow whatsoever. :rolleyes:

Yeah the "streamer" thats gone into wicklow north of here this morning seems to be the dregs of the front rather than convection.
I absolutely agree on the timing of any showers.
I think what we are getting now is not even a taster but thats just a hunch.

@mothman-you may have missed,we lunatics made it quarter way up the military road last night.
At that stage the snow falling line had retreated above 700ft but man was it a blinding blizzard.
The phone lines were down on the ground with the weight of snow and ice stuck to them.
The snow was knee deep on the road and goodness knows how deep the drifts were,we didn't venture off road
We went as far as we could untill we met just a pure wall of snow on the road.
There must be insane depths at the top of that road.