How good was matthew le tisser

Vampireskiss

Was he up there with cantona,bergkamp and zola or just a good player but not great?

tony1kenobi

Big fish in a small pond. Smashing fella though!

Vampireskiss

I personally thought he had the talent but not the ambition

~Rebel~

Naturally a gifted payer.

Could have been one of the best ever with more care to his physical condition.

efb

IMH(Biased)O

1. Bergkamp
2.Zola
3.Cantona

(see also, Le Tessier, Matt)

stovelid

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Could have been one of the best ever with more care to his physical condition.

He was born looking like that, in fairness.

xw2lj9uspm1eyh

He admits himself he'd turn up to training late when he was at Southampton had alot of problems with his weight.Don't think if he went to a big club he'd get away with that carry on

Helix

decent player, never wouldve cut it at a bigger club though

madds

Great feet for a big lad...had a knack for scoring some spectacular goals. If I was to liken him to someone playing today it would be Berbatov, not pacy but a great touch. I remember one season ('97?) when he went on a run of scoring the winner in five or six 1-0 victories for the Saints. Each goal was a screamer too. See the link for some of his goals.

Edit - just watched the vid and the run of goals I referred to was in season '93.

stovelid

OP: I assume you read that Xavi interview as well?

5starpool

Now there was a man that could take a penalty.

Helix

5starpool wrote: »

Now there was a man that could take a penalty.

aye, iirc tommy sorensen is the only bloke to save a le tissier peno. also, sorensen is the only bloke to save 2 alan shearer penos too

bohsman

My biggest memory of him is him taking a free kick and turning away to celebrate the second the ball left his foot. As others have said could have been one of the all time greats if he had wanted to be.

Spiritoftheseventies

In the news recently for what?

jesus_thats_gre

Could have done a lot lot lot lot lot more with her career.

d22ontour

Would have been nice to see him at a top club to gauge how good he truly could have been remembered for.He was a great talent but the shadow of him not being bothered playing at the top level will always hang over peoples opinions of him bar saints fans i suppose...Watching his 100 goals is pretty nice as he was a spectacular finisher.

dfx-

Not remotely as good as he lets on now

Chardee MacDennis

49 penalties taken, 48 scored. Also has scored some of the best goals the premier league has seen. Think he was a quality player with no ambition for trophies

Chardee MacDennis

Helix wrote: »

aye, iirc tommy sorensen is the only bloke to save a le tissier peno. also, sorensen is the only bloke to save 2 alan shearer penos too

Nearly sure it was mark crossley...

dreamers75

He played for his club his entire career and people look down on him for it :eek:. Hes an actual football legend most gifted english footballer i have ever seen.

"defending is what defenders do"

rednik

Le Tiss was not a work horse type of player but he was the one the team relied on for that one moment of inspiration during a game and a lot of the time he came up with the goods. Hard to compare him with Bergkamp, Cantona etc as they had more experience playing with other clubs including Europe which he never had. Whether this was down to a lack of ambition or just loyalty to his club I don't know. As a United supporter all I can say is I would have liked to have seen him play at Old Trafford for United and see where that would have taken him.

leninbenjamin

dreamers75 wrote: »

He played for his club his entire career and people look down on him for it :eek:

Well, when you put it like that, it sounds harsh all right.

From the other side of it though he never really actively sought out the opportunity to test himself at the highest level, which why many feel it's not fair to call him a true great.

dreamers75

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Well, when you put it like that, it sounds harsh all right.

From the other side of it though he never really actively sought out the opportunity to test himself at the highest level, which why many feel it's not fair to call him a true great.

Only 100% transfer i know he turned down was Chelsea under Vialli for a few million.

Any united fan sees Neville altho not a great defender as a legend, its not for his footballing ability its for 14 odd years of 100% effort oh but he won stuff. Carragher the same not really very good but commited and loyal.

Le Tiss was all that but with skill and no trophies

Dublin_Gunner

His nearest analogue during the 90's IMO was Tony Yeboah.

Would do feck all for most of the game, then come up with something spectacular. And only did it for a couple of seasons...

Among the greats? No.

bohsman

The Paul Byrne of the premiership.

argosy2006

seemed to be a 4 season wonder, i have no idea of his full career ,from 17-35 , i only recall few good seasons, and his fitness was not great, bit like wayne rooney,, he is a premier league star, yet not in great shape,carries a big of weight likes his kebabs, beckham hasnt a ounce of fat on him, he's a real athlete who clearly is in top condition, could not have said that about matt,, likes his food too,great skill, full ambition never filled,

Victor McDade

dreamers75 wrote: »

most gifted english footballer i have ever seen

He was a fantastic talent alright but I'd give that award to Gazza

m@cc@

A yard or two more pace, then I think you could be mentioning him amongst the elite of English football.

This is his best goal I think. Very much like Gazza's vs Scotland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09RwRRqKgnM

Seaneh

How Good was Matt Le Tissier?

Good enough for you to spell this name right for starters.


He was better than Cantona as far as footballing ability and footballing brain is concerned, easily, everyone ****es on about him having no ambition.

He played for the club he supported as a boy for his entire professional career and retired a premier league player, where is the lack of ambition in that??!?!?! He turned down moves to "bigger" clubs, and more money and all the rest, not because he was lazy or he thought he'd fail, but because he loved his club, get a grip lads, he was immense.

Seaneh

argosy2006 wrote: »

seemed to be a 4 season wonder, i have no idea of his full career ,from 17-35 , i only recall few good seasons, and his fitness was not great, bit like wayne rooney,, he is a premier league star, yet not in great shape,carries a big of weight likes his kebabs, beckham hasnt a ounce of fat on him, he's a real athlete who clearly is in top condition, could not have said that about matt,, likes his food too,great skill, full ambition never filled,

4 season wonder?
What age are you?
GTB.

K-9

Seaneh wrote: »

How Good was Matt Le Tissier?

Good enough for you to spell this name right for starters.


He was better than Cantona as far as footballing ability and footballing brain is concerned, easily, everyone ****es on about him having no ambition.

He played for the club he supported as a boy for his entire professional career and retired a premier league player, where is the lack of ambition in that??!?!?! He turned down moves to "bigger" clubs, and more money and all the rest, not because he was lazy or he thought he'd fail, but because he loved his club, get a grip lads, he was immense.

Agreed.

Watching his goals scored is as near as soccer porn as you'll get.

Xavi6

BastardPrince wrote: »

Nearly sure it was mark crossley...

Twas indeed.

You can tell the age of some posters given their response here.

Le Tiss was one of the most talented individuals the league has ever seen. The fact that he was able to perform to such high standards given the mediocrity he was surrounded by speaks volumes.

He was naturally gifted with an incredible touch and eye for the spectacular. A proper role model for kids growing up in the 90s.

People go on about that Cantona goal against Sunderland but it isn't a patch on this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY1IF3zImlY

K-9

Xavi6 wrote: »

Twas indeed.

You can tell the age of some posters given their response here.

Le Tiss was one of the most talented individuals the league has ever seen. The fact that he was able to perform to such high standards given the mediocrity he was surrounded by speaks volumes.

He was naturally gifted with an incredible touch and eye for the spectacular. A proper role model for kids growing up in the 90s.

People go on about that Cantona goal against Sunderland but it isn't a patch on this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY1IF3zImlY

That was David May, wasn't it?

But yeah, class goal.

If he was around now, he'd be Torres, except more spectacular.

K-9

The last one is the best.

LuckyLloyd

Seaneh wrote: »

How Good was Matt Le Tissier?

Good enough for you to spell this name right for starters.


He was better than Cantona as far as footballing ability and footballing brain is concerned, easily, everyone ****es on about him having no ambition.

He played for the club he supported as a boy for his entire professional career and retired a premier league player, where is the lack of ambition in that??!?!?! He turned down moves to "bigger" clubs, and more money and all the rest, not because he was lazy or he thought he'd fail, but because he loved his club, get a grip lads, he was immense.

And they are right. His lack of ambition was not necessarily in his decision to stay at the club he loved; it was in his decision to avoid being the best player he could be for the club he loved. He should have been fitter, he should have worked harder, he should have applied himself more all the way through a season.

People forget the stretches where he was in and out of the team over training issues and poor form. A mercurial talent, capable of some of the most breathtaking moments ever witnessed in the Premiership. But one who could go missing for games in a row, and created compensatory tactical issues for the team around him due to his immobility and general disinterest in defending.

Give me the Roy Keane type players every ****ing day of the week.

davyjose

Seaneh wrote: »

He was better than Cantona as far as footballing ability and footballing brain is concerned, easily, everyone ****es on about him having no ambition.

So you're telling me he was better than the best player for the league's best team?

Snap out of it, will ya. Cantona's impact on the league, and the english game in general was profound. Le Tissier scored a few fancy goals.

As for Xavi, you're opinion that Cantona's goal not being a "patch" on le Tissier's is a very subjective one. My personal belief is that Cantona's is easily the better goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAOUgmRXsc

And Zola wasn't in the same class as Cantona/Bergkamp either. But still streets ahead of Le Tissier

Helix

davyjose wrote: »

So you're telling me he was better than the best player for the league's best team?

Snap out of it, will ya. Cantona's impact on the league, and the english game in general was profound. Le Tissier scored a few fancy goals.

As for Xavi, you're opinion that Cantona's goal not being a "patch" on le Tissier's is a very subjective one. My personal belief is that Cantona's is easily the better goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAOUgmRXsc

And Zola wasn't in the same class as Cantona/Bergkamp either. But still streets ahead of Le Tissier

to be fair, that ones not a patch on this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCNSS2o9Gyg

Spiritoftheseventies

Vampireskiss wrote: »

Was he up there with cantona,bergkamp and zola or just a good player but not great?

Yes he was a good player probably in the Hoddle mode.

Instant Karma

Have to really laugh at some of the replies on here. Calling Le Tisser a 'decent' player? Tearing into him for a lack of ambition? You are mistaking loyalty for a lack of ambition. How many threads are there giving off about mercenary players only after the money, and when you have one of the few players who was teh polar opposite he ends up ridiculed.

Matthew Le Tissier was a fantastic footballer, one of the most talented I've seen play in the English divisions.

CHD

Raw talent that never pushed itself. What could have been.

TonyD79

dreamers75 wrote: »

Only 100% transfer i know he turned down was Chelsea under Vialli for a few million.

Any united fan sees Neville altho not a great defender as a legend, its not for his footballing ability its for 14 odd years of 100% effort oh but he won stuff. Carragher the same not really very good but commited and loyal.

Le Tiss was all that but with skill and no trophies

Was on the verge of signing for Spurs at one stage so I read.

What was the story with his international commitment/selection? I know he could play for any of the Uk teams and he played for england once or twice? but he the fact he wasnt selected regulary says it all really.

Spiritoftheseventies

TonyD79 wrote: »

Was on the verge of signing for Spurs at one stage so I read.

What was the story with his international commitment/selection? I know he could play for any of the Uk teams and he played for england once or twice? but he the fact he wasnt selected regulary says it all really.

Again what was the inspiration behind this thread. Did he get knighted or something. Just a bit out of the blue this.

_blank_

Where the bleedin' hell is MrJoeSoap?

Peyton Manning

Xavi6 wrote: »

People go on about that Cantona goal against Sunderland but it isn't a patch on this -[/YOUTUBE]

Pfft, would liked to have seen him do that having picked the ball up on the half way line!

Het-Field

A player who's emotional ties to a club were too great.

He should have taken up Newcastle's offer in 1995 to join them in their big summer splurge.

His small team mentality stopped him from getting more england caps, and winning much.

ctrl-alt-delete

Het-Field wrote: »

A player who's emotional ties to a club were too great.

He should have taken up Newcastle's offer in 1995 to join them in their big summer splurge.

His small team mentality stopped him from getting more england caps, and winning much.

I hate all this talk about emotional ties etc holding players back. You do not have to win anything to prove you are a great player, and why can't people accept that choosing to play for the club you love can give equal and sometimes more pleasure to a player than potentially winning trophies by moving to a bigger club.

There was no bigger club to Le Tissier, the same i'd say for Shearer who moved to Newcastle after Blackburn. I admire these players for loyalty to their teams and hearts more than anything else.

Le Tissier was a fantastic player, and one a player that lit up my childhood football memories. He was an exceptional talent who i think could have done a job at any club, but i do not take anything away from his position as a legend of the Premier League era by him not having done this.

The Muppet

Le Tiss was very very good.

jesus_thats_gre

Des wrote: »

Where the bleedin' hell is MrJoeSoap?

Where are most of the lads that used to post here?

stovelid

bayviewclose wrote: »

Again what was the inspiration behind this thread.

Xavi did an interview in a magazine recently where he named MLT as one of his favourite players when he was growing up.

grenache

Le Tiss had a very lazy style about him, i think that often gave people the impression that he was a lazy player, but i don't think so. I would put him just below Bergkamp, Cantona, Zola and Henry in the list of Premiership all-time greats.

MagicMarker

argosy2006 wrote: »

and his fitness was not great, bit like wayne rooney