First car

lissacahaluke

Hey all,
I'm 15 years old and I have an automatic micra at home for messing around in and a civic before that but im thinking of buying a proper car til im 17.

So I dont have much money so i saw a black corsa here on donedeal.
I no its a 1.6 (harder to insure) but I think its good, even to keep to sell later on.
So what do ye all think?
Thanks very much,
Luke Delaney.

Flesh Gorden

looks like a death trap


if you tried to insure that as a 1.6 first thing they'll ask for is an engineers report to prove the work has been done competently

and if you don't declare the changes and it's in an accident where insurance investigators are called in
you'll be left with a hefty legal bill to settle if they have pay out to another driver

Look at the warning signs in the ad "needs altenator" - so I guarantee you can't even hear the engine running

- NCT only till Jan

- No tax meaning its been off the road for a while


I'm all for engine conversions, it's something I'm going to undertake this year,
but when time comes to sell, it will come with an engineers report
to certify the work on the engine, suspension, brakes and transmission have all been done to a safe standard


besides even a standard un abused corsa of that age with an nct would just about make €500

you'd end up spending thousands on the thing and won't see back a penny

Keep your money



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lissacahaluke

I suppose he would have mentioned if he actually had an engineers report for the conversion?
Thanks for your point of view, I was only looking at it as a cheap good looking small car.
Thanks again!

Flesh Gorden

Flesh Gorden wrote: »

if you tried to insure that as a 1.6 first thing they'll ask for is an engineers report to prove the work has been done competently
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Many insurers insist on an NCT being carried out, engineers report is not necessary in most cases.
Also that Corsa is being sold for parts. If it is just the alternator that needs attention it would be very easy to verify all is well with the engine before purchasing.

Flesh Gorden

I'm only repeating what quinn told me when I was finding out what would be needed when I change my own engine.

I'd be placing a much more powerful refurbushed 2litre instead of a 1.6 and having the work done in the uk, along with fitting a close ratio gearbox

They where ok with me just declaring the brake upgrade all round and didn't even increase my premium
but when it came to enquiring about changing the engine for a more powerful one they where clear it would be needed
and my car would then be insured in the same insurance group as the donor car


OP: I doubt they ever declared the change to insurance companies in the past - keep your money, looks a bit dodgy




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Pdfile

Flesh Gorden wrote: »

I'm only repeating what quinn told me when I was finding out what would be needed when I change my own engine.

I'd be placing a much more powerful refurbushed 2litre instead of a 1.6 and having the work done in the uk, along with fitting a close ratio gearbox

They where ok with me just declaring the brake upgrade all round and didn't even increase my premium
but when it came to enquiring about changing the engine for a more powerful one they where clear it would be needed
and my car would then be insured in the same insurance group as the donor car


OP: I doubt they ever declared the change to insurance companies in the past - keep your money, looks a bit dodgy




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it is, the amount of eejits with a bigger engine on a smaller tax book ( 1.3 with a 1.6-2.0 inside) they don't seem to realize that when they crash ( and they will ) that as soon as the insurance assessor see's that....


Yer fooked. your after scamming the insurance company, Techniqaully Driving without insurance and im pretty sure your nct may not be valid ( if you held one pre engine swap, it covers the car before mods )

Honestly. Its a mug's game...


Save up for 2 years, get a cheap civic to drive for a year or two, then buy the big engined Beemer.

lissacahaluke

Hey thanks very much for taking your time to look at the ad.
So ye are all dead against it.
But could I not buy it and get my local mechanic to have an overall look at it especially the engine, and a letter from him to the insurance company?
Or am I looking at it the wrong way completely?
THanks again.

TestTransmission

Am I missing something?You're 15 and you're asking about buying a car and getting insured on it?

Typewriter

OP it would seem that you like the look of the car more than anything else.

Save you money over the next 2 years then buy something like this...

http://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=478775&r=s.php%3Fm%3D88%26amp%3Bo%3D1098%26amp%3Bg%3D0

A much better car with the same look.

lissacahaluke

Sorry but I meant I wanted to get a proper car to be driving in at home until im 17 and when Iam 17 how much of a bother would it be to get insurance when a 1.6 engine has been put into it.

lissacahaluke

green_jesus wrote: »

OP it would seem that you like the look of the car more than anything else.

Save you money over the next 2 years then buy something like this...

http://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=478775&r=s.php%3Fm%3D88%26amp%3Bo%3D1098%26amp%3Bg%3D0

A much better car with the same look.

Hey its not really the looks of the corsa but the price factor is what Im looking at, and normally for that price you will only get a bucket of s**t.
I just want a cheap, nice car to last me until im driving, and by the way all the posts are showing it i prob wont be driving this on the roads when im 17. lol

ShayK1

but that corsa IS a bucket of Sh*t.

lissacahaluke

ShayK1 wrote: »

but that corsa IS a bucket of Sh*t.

I knew someone would say that haha.Well thanks everyone for your help because I was going to buy her as soon as possible but now I probably wont.Thanks again,Luke Delaney.