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Corrib GAS_TRAX

  • 03-01-2010 4:07pm
    #1
    ClovenHoof
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭


    Why hasn't this idea been propsed already. Liquified Natural Gas is carried in trains all over the world. Ultra Light Rail trains also running on natural gas are already a fact. This could be the silver bullet to make the Western Rail Corridor a major profit driven line, while building a vital new line in Mayo for Gas Freight and Gas Powered Local Passenger Services.

    http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/notachainsmokingmidget/gas_map.jpg?t=1262530896

    I am considering making a submission to the DoT. Is there anyone who can help me flesh this idea out who knows about LPG freight cars tankers.


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  • #2
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    No thanks to deadly freight trains.


  • #3
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Also aren't piplelines a lot more efficient for carrying fuel than trains?


  • #4
    dowlingm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Given the opposition in Rossport, I hardly think carrying LNG through populated areas on a train some skanger can derail with a suitably placed object is going to be considered on side by, for starters, the people of Castlebar and Claremorris. The ammonia trains were lucky they kept going for as long as they did - I doubt it would pass now if it was proposed again.


  • #5
    invincibleirish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭invincibleirish


    Ah the Corrib Gas project and the WRC. Two examples of Irish public policy making/FF cute hoorism at its finest.

    Isn't the LNG proposed to be transferred onto ships at a facility in the area?


  • #6
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,494 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Perhaps a bit late?

    http://www.bordgais.ie/networks/index.jsp?1nID=102&pID=108&nID=501
    http://www.bordgais.ie/networks/index.jsp?1nID=102&pID=104&nID=138
    http://www.bordgais.ie/files/corporate/library/20060620094055_MayoGalwayUpdate.pdf
    http://www.bordgais.ie/files/corporate/library/20060505031849_pipelinewest.pdf

    Gas as a fuel for trains is not magically better than diesel (sure there are pluses and minuses). It can not conjure a profit out of nothing. The price of gas is ultimately linked to the price of oil.

    Can you show where gas is transported by rail and how this compares with the Irish situation?


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  • #7
    D'Peoples Voice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭D'Peoples Voice


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    No thanks to deadly freight trains.
    don't worrry such a castrophe would never happen here, because practically no-one lives along the railway line, but they could kill some cattle:mad:
    island_density.gif


  • #8
    ClovenHoof
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    D'Peoples Voice wrote: »
    don't worrry such a castrophe would never happen here, because practically no-one lives along the railway line, but they could kill some cattle:mad:
    island_density.gif


    No prizes for gussing why the West is empty...

    How frequent are gas trains explosions? I would guess very rare. I can't see much public opposistion to the Gas Trains as the trains would not be in the West for very long. Would people in the East complain about the dangers?


  • #9
    Aidan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Aidan1


    Why hasn't this idea been propsed already.

    Because there's already a pipeline linking the Terminal to the national transmission system. And because that pipeline can then supply gas to towns along the route (and indeed already is, even before Corrib comes on stream), which a train could not. Oh yeah, and because pipelines are quicker, safer, cheaper and more reliable than trains. Apart from that, no reason at all.
    No prizes for gussing why the West is empty...

    Because not enough people want to live there, due to the lack of economic development - itself due to the chronic distributionist effect of spreading any funding or enterprise across a wide swathe of countryside, instead of concentrating development in a small number of larger urban centres which could develop critical mass, turning into self sustaining economic centres in their own right? Do I get a cookie?


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